Weaponsmith Archive
Thread: Questions you NEVER ask a weaponsmith...
Dodece
Thu Mar 25, 2004 10:10 am
#105
Another good one is your makeing a gun for a person he asks for a gun that uses that oh so wonderful rhodium barrel. The barrel from hell garbage gold its still a peice of junk. Anyway these components are leaveing points to spare. I tell him I am maxing out damage on components. What other factors would he like high on the gun.
We all know the response speed. Followed by standard reply speed. To which I politely say speed and damage are tied when i max out damage i max out the speed. What other quality would you like in the gun. Followed by yet another standard question what else can i get. Too which I reply range increase ham reduction durability wound chance. Which ranks the highest with you. Followed by a ten minute explanation of what each one of these factors does.
I think this is actually the sadest conversation that any weaponsmith has. Doing custom orders is one of the fun parts of the profession. Rarely do weaponsmiths get to think out of the speed damage box in any way shape or form. I find myself makeing guns that specialize in another quality knowing quite well that the majority of people are morons and will not see the value of a unique stat of plus ninety to range,or an insane wound chance.
You ask the person what they plan to use the weapon for and often times you have to say no you do not want that you want this. Like the guy who is useing a laser rifle point blank.
I have read the earlier posts and the same question is which is the best gun. I have learned the best trick of all. You ask them their skill level Then tell them the gun they want. You pretty much have to tell them what gun they are going to buy.
c what is the best pistol you can make.
me what is your skill level
c pistols three marksman
me you want the dh17 pistol
c what about fwg
me you want the dh17 pistol.
c what is so good about it
me feal free to look through the hundred guns i have on my vendor, but you will end up buying the dh17
five minutes later the mail comes in so and so buys a dh17 pistol.
MonroeThanes
Thu Mar 25, 2004 10:34 pm
#106
how did this end up on the second page, are we spent already? i know there are alot more dumb people out there weve had the pleasure of dealing with
ttjjgg
Fri Mar 26, 2004 12:11 am
#107
I can see how the first two questions can be asked.
The first one. Because of the resources and subcomponents for ranged weapons some weaponsmiths choose not to bother with them, I do know some master weaponsmiths that will only stock melee weapons.
The second one. Because your master doesn't mean that you can make all the weapons. You may be missing a resource, or subcomponent required for thatgun. not all subcomponents are made by weaponsmiths.
Frolykk
Fri Mar 26, 2004 6:04 am
#108
i got this one last night, it made me laugh so hard i cried.
dude: how come i can get better Laser Carbines at [other towns mall] ?
me: there can be several reasons for that, the person who made they guns there might be using better resources, he might be or a more proficiant species or he him be a master weaonsmith.
dude: how come the stats on these two Laser carbines on you vendor have differant stats ?
me: well properbly because one of them is a Laser Rifle =)
dude: ok, then why are your scout blasters so differant ?
me: because i hand craft each weapon
dude: you are lying to me i saw your factory outside making blaster power handlers
(this is where i started to laugh myself to tears, i did an examine on the guy, Mastered Professions: Marksman andWeaponsmith)
me: lol well you should know this, you've master weaponsmith.
dude: **edit** noob and stop lying about you hand crafting all the guns you make, when you have a factory working outside!
(i start reading his bio...)
dude: tell me why are you lying to me, i'm an imperial general and i demand that you tell me the truth!
(initiates login of Maco)
me: okay i have been holding out on you i had to see what kind of guy you where, before allowing you to see the good stuff
dude: cool where is it?
(Maco logging , meditate, power boost call to gurrecks and covert scanner in hand)
dude: are you there ?
me: sorry got an important tell i had to answer, it in the third house then the right in the back room, go check it out.
(i turn to the other computer and he steps outside)
on Macoi slam the covert scanner into the ground making him overt and a open target for pissed off overt rebel master creature handler/teras kasi master with two bloodthirsty gurreck on the side, i incap and deathblow him in about 2 seconds.
(i switch back to Fro)
me:/tell stupid questions is one thing can be accepted, stupid questions about weapons crafting from a master weaponsmith, can be forgiven, calling me a liar and threating me with a fake imperial rank will get you killed.
/ignore dude
Eola
Fri Mar 26, 2004 6:48 am
#109
After much consideration I'm adding one to the list:
'Can you make me Basic_Weapon_#32?'
While in general this isn't a bad question, it's a bad question to ask if you haven't actually checked a person's vendors (with the sole exception being when you're off planet). I've thought this was a borderline issue? But then I've had 10 people ask me this in the last day or so, three of them while standing in my store.
boceifus2000
Fri Mar 26, 2004 7:01 am
#110
Customer: Hello, can you make me a DL20?
Weaponsmith: (Vender stocked with DL20's) Please check my vender. I will send you the WP.
Now what I hate the most when you tell somebody to check your vender and you KNOW you have what they are looking for on it, which gets very old...
Customer: I am here but you don't have any.
Weaponsmith: They are there, hit next items.
Customer: I still don't see them.
Weaponsmith: Keep hitting next items.
Customer: I still don't see any, do you have any or not??
(/sigh)
Weaponsmith: Look under weapons, sub-catagory rifles, then hit the NEXTITEMS button at the bottom right of the vender window, you will see them.
(10 minutes later)
Customer: OH! I see them! Thanks!
Seems like I have to explain how to work a vender to 4 out of 10 people a day, some multiple times.
Xix13
Fri Mar 26, 2004 7:06 am
#111
My Master Doc proudly displays his Novice Gunfighter tag and is not searchable. My Master WS/Arti/DE proudly wears her Master DE tag and is not searchable. My Master Commando proudly wears his Master Commando tag and is searchable. My vendors are named "Stuf to Fight With" and "Delectible Droids" in a tent named "A Place to Buy Stuf". This seems to keep the stupidity level to a minimum. I'm in a large guild so I have plenty of work. Friends of the Guild get referred to me and I usually work out some nice trades (droids for heavy harveys, etc.). Most folks who get loot drop it onto me to make stuf for them and the other guildies, or just to get it out of their inventory. After a month or two, I finally collected the last 2 missing resources for WS (colat iron; and hydron-3 for the thing that isn't used in any schematic). When I need money, I send Doctor Xixor to one of the hunt planets or Theed Starport, sit down, pull out my droid, and turn on Master Doc. Or, if I'm feeling antisocial, I do missions with my Lizard commando. I have a lot of fun, make enough cash to keep going, get a few sales from my vendor, and spend time with my guildmates. If amassing huge amounts of credits isn't the end-all objective of playing the game, most of the craziness need never be dealt with at all.
Still, I do get the ocassional "hey". This thread is the best. It's given me a whole group of new responses.
Still, I do get the ocassional "hey". This thread is the best. It's given me a whole group of new responses.
SabbathChild
Fri Mar 26, 2004 10:25 am
#112
Dodece wrote:c 10 credits on the bizarre (at this point i started to feal my head slowly start to rotate.)
me okay here is what you have to do go find a big stick. They usually grow on trees rip it off if it is too hard to rip it off find another. Better yet find a rock reach down and wrap your hand around it. Pick it up and start smacking it into your skull as hard as possible until the world grows black. Now you will have an excuse for being so retarded. Either you are truely this idiotic or a complete a hole for makeing me wast five minutes of my life trying to help someone that sounded like a noob.
This about made me fall out of my chair. I think my class thinks I just had a siezure.
This thread makes me wonder about whether or not I want to continue with this class. I don't handle stuff like this well. The worst I've had was some guy flaming me for not being able to make a Laser Carbine that had a max damage of 350.
SabbathChild
Fri Mar 26, 2004 11:08 am
#113
Look, I'm not even a master yet and I've gotten a few of these quetions. Am I supposed to memorize all the stats for all my weapons? Do I know what the best gun for you is? Do I really have to sit and listen to some jerk flame me bacause I can't make an uber carbine that started out a little better then mine then got sliced? Do I have time to teach a new player how to play the game? The answer is "No." I'm not trying to be a jerk, I've treated all my customers and anyone with questions with respect, (with one exception) these guys are just blowing off steam. I've got my hands full everyday running around to my harvestors and making stuff to sell on the bazaar. So be kind to your weaponsmiths, you don't know work in this game til you actually play one.
TarraS
Fri Mar 26, 2004 11:58 am
#114
Why do I sense that abe (2 posts up) saw himself in one of these posts?
If you disliked this thread, never read 'Annoying customers you want to throw in the Sarlacc pit' in merchant or 'A chuckle for the Smuggler" in Smuggler. People need a place to vent.
Message Edited by TarraS on 03-26-2004 02:43 PM
Redguard
Fri Mar 26, 2004 12:02 pm
#115
Coddelite:
Jeez man who urinated in your cornflakes today? Seriously, are you having fun with the profession? I'll agree your successful but it seems that the fun is dead.
The post is semiserious. We all get annoyed by the stupid question now and then. I'll even agree that some questions are down right ridiculous but thats part of the jow of being a weaponsmith.
coughhakka
Fri Mar 26, 2004 2:14 pm
#116
CreatureHypnotizer,
On the whole you are exactly right! Weaponsmiths in general are the largest assortment of Egotistical, Prissy, thick-skulled, foul smelling, ill mannered, childish, semi-'Tards, I have met in any MMPORG.
...but walk in our shoes for a couple of minutes, if everytime you pulled a Rancor out of your inventory to smack something - and had to answer;
1) Is that a rancor?
2) does he have a sister?
3) are rancors uber?
4) can you train me one?
5) what planet are rancors from?
6) sell him to me, please?
7) what do you feed him?
and...
8) does he crap on your lawn?
....I think you would have a good feel for what we are going through HOURLY. I am not here to defend my compatriots, in all likliehood I would not be dfrinking buddies with any of them....but the thread's intent was to share some of the exasperation of dealing with hundreds of tells per night, not implying that anyone who is not a wepsmith is a retard.
Besides, Weaponsmith's make guns - but they still don't know which end of the gun to point at the enemy....rejoice in the differences ... and share your beer with folks youlike ...
Bulgar1
Fri Mar 26, 2004 4:36 pm
#117
My two favorites from last night
1. Hey do you repair Armour?
2. Hi can you give me some guns?