Weaponsmith Archive

Thread: No serial number cube --- exploit or by design? --

BoberFett
Wed May 19, 2004 10:40 am
#53






Itren wrote:

what's funny is I see all this bickering over WHITE cubes.



I for one, will not EVER put a white cube into a limited schematic. I'm not wasting it that way. I use yellow cubes in weapons I make. Know why? better damage... higher durability or lower ham cubes really don't work too well for making better weapons, it's all about the damage. So you guys can happily bicker about this all you want, I'll make sure and throw my white cubes on the bazaar for ya. Have at and good day.








It has been explained several times, but it's apparently to hard for you wrap your mind around.


The exploit is not creating a couple weapons that are too powerful. The exploit is creating thousands weapons that are average quality.


A smith who doesn't use this exploit can make at most 4 scythes from a single scythe schematic. A weaponsmith who uses serialless cubes in the schematic can make 2000 scythes.
BoberFett
Wed May 19, 2004 10:43 am
#54

I just thought of something else.


You use your yellow cubes and pull out an additional 15 damage. Charge your customer 300K for a scythe with 15 more damage than one made with a white cube. Meanwhile your competition who is using this exploit will make thousands of scythes, sell them for 10% of your price, and at that price nobody will think twice about throwing powerups on them and burning through scythes. Why worry about them? They're so cheap.


So in fact the one made with the serialless white cube is ultimately more powerful than your yellow cube scythe.
Tepod
Wed May 19, 2004 10:50 am
#55

Yeah I asked a csr and they didnt care can we get a dev opinion?
Zarny
Wed May 19, 2004 7:41 pm
#56

THe CSR said straight out "We dont care" Well Hell thats quite intresting to hear seeing the number of people banned for this offense.


I love stupid CSRs



ZarnKano
Kershakk
Thu May 20, 2004 6:49 pm
#57

Well I have heard of a weaponsmith on my server that has made a geo sonic pistol schematic using +80 -0.3 serialless krayt tissues and a serialless YELLOW cube.


The gall of some people is sickening and it's tough to bite down. My only hope is the devs actually DO something about it, otherwise there appears ZERO reward for remaining honest. And fair warning devs, lack of action on such exploits merely sets precedence.


Logix
Thu May 20, 2004 8:53 pm
#58

Update:


A fix should be going into the next patch. This no-serial bug seems to be happening randomly to loot across the board -- Tailor items, Armorsmith items, hell even Krayt tissue has been reported as dropping with no serial. The Correspondents have made sure this problem is elevated, as we have quite the growing bug on our hands.


Supposedly, no-serial items should be now generating serials upon relog. Can anyone confirm this for cubes?


Logix
Thu May 20, 2004 8:57 pm
#59

Oh and lastly, ifa CSR tells you something, be sure you make note of the CSR's name when you re-post that information here. CSRs do often play telephone with one-another and sometimes information becomes misreported. In other words, they can be wrong on occasion. So for fact-checking purposes, please post the CSR's name when you repost information you receive from them. Thanks.
supersparc
Thu May 20, 2004 9:27 pm
#60

Logix,
I think there are 2 issues. The first issue was the unserialized white cubes. They spawned each and every time from the fire spider debris pile and never had a serial. This pile also spawned solid paste with no stat or serial. That seems to have been fixed a couple weeks back...soon after they fixed that, random loots started appearing without serials.

I wonder if fixing that debris pile caused this new error with the other loots.....





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Logix
Thu May 20, 2004 11:41 pm
#61






supersparc wrote:

I wonder if fixing that debris pile caused this new error with the other loots.....




I'm sure it's related, just have to hope that their third fix on this doesn't make it any worse.

An0m4Ly
Fri May 21, 2004 1:39 pm
#62


for those who havent read the official response on unserialed components



In regards to the non-serialized Krayt components, you should not be using them. If you are looking for an official statement on them, here it is. If you use them, you risk getting banned. If you still have some, please delete them. If you have made weapons in the past, and knowingly abused this exploit, don't be surprised if we contact you about it.



I hope that clears things up for you all. Thank you for your concern in this issue.

- Scott "Taurin" Snopel -

QA Liaison
Star Wars Galaxies
Sony Online Entertainment





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Kelban11
Fri May 21, 2004 2:09 pm
#63

I have been hunting in the geno cave alot last few days and the unserialized cubes are droping off mobs in fact i have yet to see one that has a serial number and i have hundreds of the cubes also none of the cores i loot ahve serial numbers.
supersparc
Fri May 21, 2004 7:45 pm
#64

Maybe I can clarify what I am saying by speaking in code.

Geo cave opens with the following code:

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if (target=NPC) then add serial number
else do not add serial number
---------------------------------------

This code would cause the loot piles to have no serial.
Apply code fix a couple weeks ago:

-----------------------------------------------
if (target=debris pile) then add serial number
else do not add serial number
-----------------------------------------------

This code fails to add serials to anything other than the debris pile
Code should be:

------------------------------------------------------------
if (target=debris pile OR target=NPC) then add serial number
else do not add serial
------------------------------------------------------------


NOTE: I do not believe this is the code but I am trying to illustrate my point. and yes, the else statements arent necessary. They are included for completeness.





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Willbaby
Fri May 21, 2004 8:21 pm
#65

hi guys just like to inform u a litte, upon several trips to the geo caves i have noticed 2 things, the pile behind the fire spider drops white cubes with no serials and solid agents too, these will always have no serial and stay like this permanently


second thing is most loot now seems to be dropping with no serial but serials apear upon relog or in a few hours. seems like 2 seperate bugs to me






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