Weaponsmith Archive
Thread: Unserialized Krayt Tissue Schematics...Exploit or not?
It has been well known what these unserialized tissues meant from the moment they first dropped - and the devs have choosen not to do anything, not even mention whether we should be using them. Many times there is a fine line between using the game mechanics to their fullest extent and "exploiting". The devs really do need to come forward in this situation and make things clear. Is the situation fair? Definitely not. Is it an exploit? The answer to that is a matter of opinion.
Arrya wrote:
Obviously, the people who do not have access to these are going to cry exploit and be upset about it.
What? Where did you get this? Not everyone that has access to it actually uses it. That would be because not everyone has such abankrupt set of ethics.
Good lord do you really think that using a +30 dmg tissue to get a +134 dmg BPH is not an exploit? Say it isn't so!
My assumption is thatretroactively implementingserial numbers on all non-serial Krayt Tissues circulating in the system would require more manpower in pruning the database code than what is reasonable. That is, if that's even possible in the first place. For example, giving players the ability to rename already-crafted items (saving containers) is not possible due to database limitations, to give you an idea how difficult it may be to alter existing items in the database.
Additionally, simply because a bug continues to exist within the game does not permit you to take advantage of it. It's not about what's fair, it's common sense. If you're crafting a gun with a schematic for a +30 tissue, obviously you're taking advantage of a bug if you magically turn that into a +70 tissue. That said, serial-less tissues are now rather scarce across most servers, making this probably a non-issue. However, I think most players consider this an exploit, myself included, so I would recommend you not attempt to try this bug yourself.
Lastly, there are very many honest, legitimate Krayt weapon dealers out there. Most of them keep close contacts with Jedi hunting for Krayt Pearls and they get good deals on their excess Krayt Tissue. Before blowing the whistle on any Krayt weapon dealers, be sure to double-check through their stock and get a second opinion. Most importantly, contact the dealer himself; he may be more than happy todemonstrate his legitimacy and improve his reputation.
We have had the two biggest Krayt exploits to hitLive serversfinally fixed and I am constantly seeking out information on new exploits so that they may be eradicated as soon as possible. If you happen to come across one yourself, please contact Taurin and myself privately.
Arrya wrote:
Ok, well obviously turning lower level tissue into stuff with higher stats is not what is intended. The majorityof the cases where people are using this tissue though, are not doing this. But would it be that hard for the devs to come out and say "stop using this" if they consider it to truly be an exploit?
Yes, it would. PR aside, can you imagine the work required just to post every single bug and exploit that they'd rather you not use? Take a wild guess at how many exploits are currently being used in the game, anywhere from minor hair bugs to horrific resource dupes.
Then you throw PR in there, and it's not feasible. No company is going to announce every single flaw in the game that allows certain players get ahead of others, it's bad publicity. Moreover, it could make more players attempt to "find" the exploits and try them out themselves.
As for FWG5s, Fusions, et al: These were part of a game design, at one point. Turning a +30 tissue into a +70 tissue was never in the game design. A +30 tissue is a +30 tissue, it's that simple, we all know that's not supposed to happen.
However, if you were able to continue to produce FWG5 schematicswith Blaster Power-handlers even after the game system was altered to prevent you from doing so, that would be considered an exploit. You would be using a flaw to get around the game design and use it to your advantage. Simply owning a FWG5 that you made before the nerf, however, isn't an exploit. You have a FWG5 that you crafted legitimately within the game design, just because the game design has been since altered doesn't mean that your FWG5 is any less legitimate.
Hey Taurin, how 'bout we fix the game so these *exploits* don't show up on our doorsteps.
It's not like the majority of people go around looking for ways to exploit the game...
The majority of the time they just fall into our laps because of lack of testing and lack of fixing long-standing bugs. 