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Thread: Unserialized Krayt Tissue Schematics...Exploit or not?

NisiDaca
Wed Jan 21, 2004 7:34 pm
#1

As the issue has been brought up elsewhere on the forums.........and garva posted sumthing to the effect of "it shouldnt work and if it does tell *i forget the name*) and stop doing it".


Is it considered a banable offense to use an Advanced blaster power handler schematic that has an Unserialized tissue in it ?


( i currently have 2 differnt ones of these......the tissues that were used in these were from a long long time ago when thier were unserialixed tissues dropping).


Basically they allow you to run factory made krayt handlers with any tissue whatsoever and if thier less then the unserialized tissue that was in te schematic...then they get bumped up to that level (liek say a +30 becomes a +77) etc?


A full response from a csr/dev is greatly appreciated as i know thiers alot of smiths using these still across all the servers as we never considred it an exploit or banable offense.


Thnx In Advance:

Nisi Daca "aka Emperor Daca" an orignal Master Weaponsmith of Gorath.



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LLJK_Griz
Wed Jan 21, 2004 8:33 pm
#2

That sounds like an exploit to me, but you should send a PM to Taurin on the forum to get his view on it since he's the official exploit guy.



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NisiDaca
Wed Jan 21, 2004 8:43 pm
#3

I sent him a pm asking for a response one way or the other on here. As I know none of us old school weaponsmiths want our accounts banned over sumthign as silly as krayt tissue.....especially whent he schematics are several months old :-(



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Tortilla
Thu Jan 22, 2004 12:23 am
#4

you just made the problem greater.... when u have a report to make pm it to the correspondant dont post on the boards



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LLJK_Griz
Thu Jan 22, 2004 12:46 am
#5






Tortilla wrote:
you just made the problem greater.... when u have a report to make pm it to the correspondant dont post on the boards






It's not like anyone can duplicate this; it requires non-serialized tissues that dropped for two days several months ago.



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NisiDaca
Thu Jan 22, 2004 4:26 am
#6






Tortilla wrote:
you just made the problem greater.... when u have a report to make pm it to the correspondant dont post on the boards







Report? Im not reporting anything....im asking a question. Since the issue was brought up ON the boards by garva in another thread thats not in the weaponsmith forum......then the most logical place for a final answer would be for all weaponsmiths woudl it not?


Like jennai said its not like some newbie smith is going to get thier hands on these since unsearilized tissue hasnt drop in what 4-5 months?




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CannabiCannibanoid
Thu Jan 22, 2004 5:10 am
#7

Quite frankly unless theres more than 15 of any given tissue serial then i wouldnt go jumping to conclusions, I've seen some pretty crazy stuff if my krayt hunting days,the unserialized tissues being one of the more common things that gets labeled/confused as a an exploit.



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banditxx99
Thu Jan 22, 2004 8:22 am
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Of course this is an exploit! How anyone could think otherwise is beyond me. For those doubting thomases out there, here's a vivid illustration of my point.... unserialzed +134 -0.54 tissue. Ok, now you have 4 of them.


Someone could now make 4000 BPH which include the +134 dmg using any tissue at all, including the common +30.


Looks like an exploit, right?


It doesn't matter what the dmg is on the non-serialed tissue is. That's not the point. The point is, that isn't the way the system was intended to work.. so taking advantage of it is EXPLOITING. Period. Now I don't know if they'll ban people for doing it.. if not, they should.


Another thing, unserialized tissue is not as uncommon as you think. The day(s) that they were dropping also coincided with Krayts having like zero armor or some such thing and were SUPER easy to kill.
Eola
Thu Jan 22, 2004 8:25 am
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CannabiCannibanoid wrote:
Quite frankly unless theres more than 15 of any given tissue serial then i wouldnt go jumping to conclusions, I've seen some pretty crazy stuff if my krayt hunting days,the unserialized tissues being one of the more common things that gets labeled/confused as a an exploit.






Unserialized tissue isn't CONFUSED as an exploit. It IS an exploit.



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NisiDaca
Thu Jan 22, 2004 9:42 am
#10

Fortunately that particular bug should not be repeatable anymore, If you do find yourself able to do it I would report it to Taurin in a PM and stop doing it immediately.

GarVa
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That is what was posted in another forum on these boards concerning the use of these. Hence i posted it here asking for a 100% definitive yes or no.


As for them being rare........at least on gorath not too many people are walking aroudn with unserilaized tissue anymore and every major smith has at least one of these schematics in thier datapad that we use..i knwo this cus weve swapped.


If it is indeed an exploit and a banable offense then i will stop using it immediatly, just never really thought about it that way as weve been doing it for so long.




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banditxx99
Thu Jan 22, 2004 9:53 am
#11

So are we to take this post as your admition to exploiting?
-Strife-
Thu Jan 22, 2004 10:04 am
#12

1.) It is an exploit, no question about it. It gives those with the blank tissue schematic an extraordinary advantage over those that refuse to take advantage of it, myself included.


2.) It still works, even to this day (dunno with todays patch, but I doubt they addressed it). I know this as I know people who use it. As much as I like those people, I would hope that those that use it, get stopped/caught/banned.


Logix get pissed, get frustrated, get this on the plate of those that can do something. Please.






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NisiDaca
Thu Jan 22, 2004 10:20 am
#13






banditxx99 wrote:

So are we to take this post as your admition to exploiting?







Im not admiting to exploiting at all. Admiting to using an unserialized schematic..yes. And I have stopped using it since garva posted the above.


Like i said....im not really asking the players opinions so much as im asking for garva or taurin to post a DEFINITIVE yes or no to the question. Cus in the end its not us who decides whats right and wrong (ie what is a exploit and what is not) it is them is it not?




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