Weaponsmith Archive
Thread: Questions you NEVER ask a weaponsmith...
I get this tell from a guy on bria named Geko, he wanted 2 Grooved 2 handed swords. This should have been enough of a red flag, after asking him about it, he then confided what he actually wanted was 2 handed curved, with geo cores. He then asked what i would require to make him the swords. I was out of yellows cubes, so i let him know this, and off he goes to camp the geo lab for a few hours.
A few hours later i get a tell back from him, asking what i thought the stats would be with a yellow geo core. At this point in my career, ive used more looted cores than crafted, so i wasnt 100% how things would turn out. After explaining to him just that, i said that it would be anywhere in the neighboorhood of 250 to 280 damage. As i came to find out, 280 damage was huge overestimate, but thats all for later. So i told him the stats, and he replies back, i can get a better non geo sword than that. Im like oh yeah. He then delivered the million dollar line, well my friend had one made for 500 damage, no lie folks, 500 damage is what he said, and its still on my chat. So i just laughed and told him to go to that smith. Right then and there, i should have put him on ignore, but i figured that was the last i would hear from him, so i didnt. Big mistake.
Half hour later he tells back, what did you say the stats was on that? I get mine from GLOK and its 265 damage unenhanced. I though wow, 265 damage, that might actually be attainable with 100% experimentation. So i repeat my very poorly designed estimate, and he says, well, ill come by, and give you one cube to see how it goes. Hoping to salvage a customer, i stupidly agreed.
It gets better from here.
He shows up at my shop, hands me the the cube. I had all my resources and stuff ready to go, so i got right to work on the core. As im doing experimentation on the core, he goes to ask me if i wanted to by some solidifying dope, looted cores, and dxr6b schem, and also that he wants as much damage as i can get out of it. So i asked him, why did you not mention the dope b4hand. Of course, this was my fault, because when he asked me what was "required" i didnt also tell him of the components that was not "required". So after bitching and being rude about it, then deciding it was ok, he says he will give me another yellow and some dope. About this time im finishing up the sword itself. Well, im sure i dont have to tell anyone here that it wasnt 280 damage, and as thus, the customer was totally dejected with the 95% damage experimented60-245 2.6 2handed sword, that he had me custom label "Geonosian Kitana". Isnt it spelled katana? OH well, either way im sure that will turn out to be my fault too, just like the completetly worthless sword i made for him. So after doing a few emotes, which i took as rather rude and insulting, he ran out, WITHOUT PAYING ANYTHING, or even so much as a thanks for trying. The agreed deal was 30k per sword, i suppled the core schem, he supplied the yellow cubes, so its not exactly like it shot my business all to hell, but damn, come into my shop, so obviously ignorant and uneducated, and proceed to be rude, insulting, and just plain lying to my face over that 500 damage sword his friend had made.
As if that wasnt enough. I truly felt bad about the fact i wasnt able to do what i had hoped for the guy, so i thought to give him the sword free anyhow, but he never gave me the chance as he ran out b4 i could say anything. But the last thing i said to the guy was, It dosnt matter since you have already run out, but i was gonna give you the sword for free. His reply "thanks, i guess"
How long do you think it took me /ban this person from my shop.
Normally, i would have kept the identity of the customer confidential, but since you have been clearly the worst customer i have ever had to deal with, and not to mention to have the balls to run out of my shop with a 95% experimented weapon, calling it crap, and not paying the agreed on fee, than i all i have to say is this. GEKO, in my 5 years of playing online games, you are clearly one of the biggest jerks(want to say much worse) i have ever run across. I sincerly hope at least one person is motivated by what they read here to ban you from thier shop b4 they have the unfortunate nightmare of having to deal with you. Its just a shame you prolly will never read this.
***rant off****
Sorry to put you through that folks, i had to get that off my chest, and i do feel much better now.
when asked if I can repair a weapon which is very often I just keep my responce short and simple:
Sure 50k
man, what is with geting all the armor questions....i get a few a day. its pretty annoying. Im not the brightest guy in the world. But i do know the difference between armor and weapons.
/rant off
ratbyte wrote:
hehe, i love it. I have my favorite response on a macro;
cust: can you make me a weapon.
Me: presto! your a weapon!
LMAO! Thats hilarious!
Dragros wrote:
im afraid to ever talk to a MWS again.
You guys sare me
/cower
Heh.
We shoudln't really. Most of us are very nice people. I'm an exception. I'm pretty much at the point in my weaponsmith career that I have zero-tolerance for bs, and the category of things that I label as bs is actually pretty darn big. For instance:
Asking me what I'd pay for XYZ loot, and then flaming me because that's 'Not what it's worth!'.
Flaming me over the prices of loot enhanced or loot-drop schematic weapons.
Insulting the quality of weapons on my vendor because the only one you've ever seen of that type was made with legendary loot and got a perfect slice.
I don't even argue about this stuff anymore, I just wander over and add the person in question to my ban list, and not think about it ever again. This is probably a good indication of the first signs of burnout.
I do very much feel you pain.You put a double negative up there. So I was just wondering if these are questions I should ask a MW
coughhakka wrote:
I try to preserve my good humorand professional decorum at all times, but as me patience is often tested, allow me to use this forum (and a jury of my peers) to express the following:
Questions you don't NEVER want to ask your weaponsmith (feel free to add your own)
1. Do you make guns?
No, actually I have spent the last 3 months attempting to learn the intricate stiches of CROCHET, the big banner over my head that says "Master Weaponsmith" is so I can score with them loose Twi'lek bar sluts at the Camtina.... damn, you found me out - but can I interest you in a krayt turtleneck sweater?
2. Do you make [insert standard gun name here] ?
No, those are beyond my skills completely - in fact, I make every gun BUT that one, and again you have found me out, exposed the single weakness in my skillset, anf I must now perform ritual Seppuku and disembowel myself with a rusty stone knife, would you like me to hold off so you can sell tickets?
3. I don't see a [insert standard gun name here] on your vendor, do you make them?
Damn, I hope he doesn't tell his friends on me - I will be the laughingstock of the Galaxy if the word spreads.... one moment, after I answer the 4 guys attempting to talk to me at once, I will point out that the fuggin gun is on page TWO of the vendor, and the real meaning of the [NEXT 100 ITEMS] button is to call the waiter over so he can refill your tasty beverage.
4. I need a [insert standard gun anme here] but I want you to make it with the Good Stuff
Crap, he wants me to make it with the "good stuff" - and here I was hoping that he would buy the limpdix version of the gun that I make with all the crappy stuff. In fact, this canny consumer realizes what most do not - that only by ASKING for the sweet materials will I pull the rabbit out of the hat and produce the gun with 60 extra damage, 3.0 secs faster, and HALF the price of my normal inventory. Friend, the "Good Stuff" is something you smoke, here - let me roll you one....
5. I need an UBER [insert standard gunname here] can you make one?
Double Dawg Damn...this fellow has noticed that NONE of my gun say "UBER" in their name, and likely wants the "Good Stuff" to be used to craft one. But since he has used the "U" word, I know that he is 12 years old or less, and therefore is using his Momma's VISA card, so this fellow I can simply ignore (I better check to see if Mommy is with him first...she may be either A) fine, or B) red agro)
6. Customer: I need a Master Weaponsmith to repair my gun (spammed at a local starport) I need a Mas...
Wepsmith: I am a master weaponsmith, what do you need repaired?
Customer: My laser rifle, WAIT - how do I know you will give it back?
Oh Drat, I almost had him .... I was about to add another 22-260 11.0s speed-sliced laser rifle with 12 condition to my vendor for resale! But, I was foiled again ....this fellow is much too smart for me, perhaps I should just slink away in shame - Screw Ralph Nader and his Consumer Awareness teachings....
Hey Numbnutz, the quick answer is "You DOn't" - and the fact that I have unlimited laser rifles of twice the damage, and half the speed.....that has never occurred to you?
Ah, I feel better already friends, thanks for listening...
I started on Sunrunner roughly two weeks after server launch, I became a Master Artisan and Master Weapon Smith because I enjoy the crafting dynamic. Here are just a few that when I read them from a tell makes me sigh.
“You’re a Wookiee Weapon Crafter, That was a silly choice!!!”
My Reply.
“Better than being a fish.”
“Can you make me a Krayte T-21?”
My Reply
“Yes, supply me with 11 matched Krayte tissues and I’ll build it no problem.”
His Retort
“11 tissues!! You’re a bad WS it does not take 11 tissues to make a krayte T-21”
My Reply
“It takes 10, but I need 11 to make the schem, 1 for the schem 10 for the gun.”
His Re-Retort
“Moron!!!! It does not take that many tissues to make a Krayte T-21---For Get It!!!!”
“Your weapons stink!!! (Insert flavor of the week WS name here) makes a uber product”
My Reply.
“Have you used any of my products?”
His Retort.
“No”
“I want the fastest (Enter Gun Name) you can make, don’t put any points into damage.”
My Reply
“Speed and Damage are controlled off the same experiment tree.”
His Retort.
“No they are not moron, Forget it you have no clue what your doing.”