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Thread: Teräs Käsi Focus: Jedi, Should We Have A Role...

Xeranx
Mon Aug 23, 2004 8:06 am
#92






Atama wrote:


I don't think we should have any special role against Jedi.

Not because continuity doesn't support it. We have a lot of wiggle room in this game and the developers are willing to bend continuity to support better gameplay. So I don't object just because official sources don't have Teras Kasi fighting Jedi.

I don't think we should, because I think Teras Kasi is better than that. Why should our role be defined by what some other group does? We should have our own distinction in this game. I like the idea of Teras Kasi being about getting in tune with our own personal abilities, in naturalism, in relying on ourselves rather than technology. Think of how special that is in an environment where technology is both so advanced and so prevalent.

I support having some kind of Teras Kasi Order in the game, the way that bounty hunters have the Bounty Hunter Guild or the way that Jedi have their Council and their temples. Maybe quests we can do once we reach master that grant us special clothes that give us bonuses so we don't have to rely on armor.

But this game isn't just about Jedi, and not everything in the game has to revolve around them.





I agree with this wholeheartedly.







Tanks wrote:



Imperials should also be able to attack Rebel and Neutral Jedi, Rebels should be able to attack Imperial and Neutral Jedi, and Neutral Jedi should be able to attack Imperial and Rebel Jedi.


Disagree. Anyone wanting to hunt Jedi regardless of the faction can level up in Investigation 3.


Actually I disagree with this statement. There is still an ongoing Jedi purge and the Imperials are behind that front. If you want to make Investigation 3 a requirement you (in my mind) are making bounty hunters Imperial by association. How else can you justify bounty hunters being part of the jedi purge?









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Atama
Mon Aug 23, 2004 3:43 pm
#93
I like to listen to people's opinions and feel everyone should have a say but I'm sad to admit I've almost started to tune out Trucho's posts at this point.



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Mon Aug 23, 2004 4:39 pm
#94
yes, we should have a role in policeing the jedi. After all, that's what we were created for.



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Trucho-G
Mon Aug 23, 2004 7:56 pm
#95
Its not that i 'flame' everyone that doesnt agree with me, i just flame atama because i see him/her as being dumb. Seriously when i posted new profession 'TKM Watcher' atama started talking about tka shouldnt be dependent on 'jedi' when did i ever emply that tkm watcher was the same as tka?Never said so, i said it would be the next lvl for people who want to roleplay, seeing as how tka has no roleplaying ability what so ever as of now. When did i ever say that you would be forced to attack jedi(never so no you wouldnt have to just like bh doesnt have to attack jedi either)? Well ill just stop post on atamas post or attacking him/her on my own post, cant change an idiots opinion its like trying to stop people from voting on for John Kerry idiots will do what they think is right even if they're dead wrong.
Atama
Mon Aug 23, 2004 10:03 pm
#96
Dangit, Trucho and I have the same political position.



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Trucho-G
Tue Aug 24, 2004 12:25 am
#97


Atama wrote:


I don't think we should have any special role against Jedi.

Not because continuity doesn't support it. We have a lot of wiggle room in this game and the developers are willing to bend continuity to support better gameplay. So I don't object just because official sources don't have Teras Kasi fighting Jedi.

I don't think we should, because I think Teras Kasi is better than that. Why should our role be defined by what some other group does? We should have our own distinction in this game. I like the idea of Teras Kasi being about getting in tune with our own personal abilities, in naturalism, in relying on ourselves rather than technology. Think of how special that is in an environment where technology is both so advanced and so prevalent.

I support having some kind of Teras Kasi Order in the game, the way that bounty hunters have the Bounty Hunter Guild or the way that Jedi have their Council and their temples. Maybe quests we can do once we reach master that grant us special clothes that give us bonuses so we don't have to rely on armor.

But this game isn't just about Jedi, and not everything in the game has to revolve around them.






I DONT EVEN BEGIN TO AGREE, he doesnt even make sense on some of the post so that you can agree with that is amazing.
TravonLepen
Tue Aug 24, 2004 12:44 am
#98
Trucho-G,


I don't understand what your problem is. The first time you posted here that I remember is a few weeks ago and you were complaining about how TK was underpowered, and how we should hunt Jedi. You said you were a Bounty Hunter before, and you've apparently dropped that for TK (?) Now your posts seem to just be flames directed at anyone who disagrees with you. I think you should allow everyone to have their own opinion, and even if you disagree, try to do it in a more intelligent fashion.



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TravonLepen
Tue Aug 24, 2004 6:34 am
#99
Please, don't make this political, because now you're flaming ME since I'm one of those supposed "idiots who are voting for John Kerry."



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comandobob
Tue Aug 24, 2004 6:40 am
#100




TravonLepen wrote:

Please, don't make this political, because now you're flaming ME since I'm one of those supposed "idiots who are voting for John Kerry."





guys this is a Teras kasi forums , not an american Politics forum keep it out ,




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Scrup
Tue Aug 24, 2004 8:17 am
#101
i think the idea of a tera kasi order is neat. i believe the tera kasi shouldnt be about hunting jedi.. but as everyone is saying..police them... when a jedi is in a duel..theres nothing wrong with that.. when a jedi is on a battlefield,in a cave, out hunting, or healing people... theres nothing wrong with that... but when a jedi runs into a starport by himself and kills 8 overt people... thats a slight problem... too powerful... so we step up to put them in there place. perhaps something related to there pvp score, instead of visibility. the whole idea as i understand it is we try and keep anyone from becoming too powerful. perhaps only hunt those in the frs? i dunno just a thought. but i dont think we should have a system like bh. thats rediculous. tk's dont hunt jedi for being jedi, they do it for being a jedi with too much power. perhaps only those in the tk order can do it. i dunno.. i gotta get back to work now..



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OssKozz
Tue Aug 24, 2004 8:48 am
#102
Ive always thought that jedi should always be attackable by anyone, at all times. I recently too dropped master BH and decided to take up melee because it was the one thing i hadnt done in the game, and its probably the funniest. Im very close to mastering Tk 3/4/4/4 and am already a master brawler and im looking at either swordsmen or pike to finish off the skill points..........wow got off topic sorry............. anyway i agree that we as Bounty Hunters didnt do our part in purgeing the jedi, we didnt have the suffient abilities to actually make the jedi fear us and stay in hiding as they are supposed to be in this period of time. I also think that the TK community should be part of the purgeing process. Its been talked about on the smuggler boards that after JTLS is released that there will be a new system that keeps track of players who smuggle items and are cought at which point they will be placed on a BH terminal for hunting. What i think is that jedi are given the same visibility when they either show up in a place that is populated by many players or when they attack another player. The Tk's could get a message on screen similar to maybe this, " The jedi ***** has gotten out of line and needs to be put in check" this would grant a Tef on the jedi to all TK's until the jedi has died and cloned. (on a side note i never did but have no problems with corpse camping to make sure jedi clone the point of bounty hunters hunting them is to make them weaker thus loseing xp). Anyway just how i feel on the situation
Finnean
Tue Aug 24, 2004 9:43 am
#103


We really have no common bond other than our skill trees and to some extent, our tactics.



  • A TKA Order would be fantastic for this, we could have our own identity - either aligned by faction or unfettered by it.

  • The Order could have us ranked against other TKAs of rival Orders - prompting us to go out and duel otherTKAs or seek them out in battle above other opponents.

  • Perhaps the Order could send out a few of their students to have a *conversation* with a dark jedi knight , or something like that ( maybe these TKAs need to pick up Investigation 3 to participate ). The Order could sponsor *disciplinary actions* against high profile jedi whether it be an Imperial / Dark Order wanting to slow down/hamper a rebel/light jedi or a Rebel/Light Order sanctioning attacks on a DKJ.

  • Player Bounties have to be implemented if TKAs want to see this "jedi policey" thing happen. Another point could be a TK Order sanctioning action vs. a notorious BH known for killing factionally opposed jedi / smugglers/rival BHs - whatever.

  • Few things are as exciting as player fighting player - to introduce TKA Orders into this mix would be *very* exciting to say the least.

  • This idea can be applied to nearly every melee profession The Swordsman can have their own School as can the Fencers - but lets just worry about the TKA Order here for now....

. Establishing an Order and seeing where those organizations can lead would be infinitely more exciting and may just lead to the Jedi Police anyways.



After Reading more on the history of the TKA, it seems TKAs could be out policing their own as well - the Fallen Masters - this could pit TKAs against "merc" types or somesuch - faction against faction?

Message Edited by Finnean on 08-24-2004 12:05 PM



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Trucho-G
Tue Aug 24, 2004 9:38 pm
#104
I agree almost 100%with you finnean, except there is no reason why fencer or swordsman should ever be able to hunt jedi other then be grouped with a bh.
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