Teras Kasi Archive
Thread: Teräs Käsi Focus: Jedi, Should We Have A Role...
antares_Kauri
Fri Aug 20, 2004 1:54 pm
#66
Do you honestly get from that piece of text that the Empire specifically sought out TKAs to find Jedi? No, the rest of the info on Arden talks about how the Empire killed the TKAs as they found them. Arden was captured by Vader and told to kill Rebels, one of whom was Luke.
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Mankind00
Fri Aug 20, 2004 2:00 pm
#67
As I understand it, correct me if I'm wrong, but Arden was given the chance to live by Vader if she killed Luke but normaly the TK were treated by the Empire in the same way the treated Jedi (just not so publicly)
Jhahadir
Fri Aug 20, 2004 3:03 pm
#68
Midros wrote:
Atama wrote:
"But when a Jedi is next to us showing off his force powers I think we should get a tef."
I think you mean the Jedi should get a TEF to you.
Jedi should get a TEF to everyone. In fact they used to.
I agree that "policing" Jedi should be open to more than BHs, through TEFs. But it should be open to everyone, not just TKA.
/agree totally
I'd take this one step further... and yes I'm a Jedi, but try and be objective with my comments.
All duels in NPC controlled cities should have consequences for the people engaged in duels. What Imperial Storm Trooper wouldn't kill those engaged in the lawlessness of a duel outside a starport? Or any NPC controlled city? CorSec's for example. TEF's should not only be applied to the Jedi but to anyone engaged in a duel.
In some ways I think that coverts should have the option to engage in Overt Battles without the need of a GTEF. Now I know that GTEF's are a huge issue for those that are very PvP orientated, but in the larger scheme of things this is partially how the Rebel Faction worked. Either way, I think that TEF's should be applied to anyone engaged in duels friendly or not.
Hehehehe I can see Episode 4's deleted scenes... Lando says to his aide 'Damn where's that Rebel Recruiterwe have to go Overt sowe can save Leia and Chewie.'
As for the actual topic of TKA and the Jedi profession, that's an easy one. If TKA's want to 'help' in the controlling of the Jedi population, you can't, but you can kill them to take away their exp. The Jedi population cannot be controlled by anyone but the Jedi. Cancelling thier accounts is the only way to curve the population of Jedi. Now if you want to help in the slowing down of Skill Box progression, great have at it. Getting BH Investigation 3 is pretty damned easy and I have had many TKM - BH's with their Title: Teras Kasi Master after me. So I'm not sure what exactly other TKM's want (my main was onethe last3 months). If it's enclaves and buildings and terminals that's not going to happen anytime soon. That would be a year or more down the road.
Alteran Chase
Utess
Fri Aug 20, 2004 3:45 pm
#69
Just because TKAs have more "backhistory" than many of the other professions(especially the melee ones) does not mean that we should mold our profession to that. The devs picked TKA as a profession because it fit with the melee concept, and frankly it is very neat 
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.I for one would not like to see us turned into a Jedi hunting order. I don't want to be burdened with councils and rituals like some have suggested. I just want to have a fun, fair, and balanced melee profession that has a ton of depth to it and lets me go out and smack stuff 
Personally, if anything were done to tka beyond what we have, I would like to see more moves with more strategic depth, and possibly a high increase in our toughness/defenses at the cost of not being able to wear armor. Maybe expand upon the usefulness of our meditate line as well.
But no, I don't think we should be tasked with hunting jedi. That is the purpose of bounty hunter's design and in the framework of this game, it is their role. I'd rather see BHs enhanced so they can do their job without dabbling, and us get other neat stuff in other areas.
Atama
Fri Aug 20, 2004 5:20 pm
#70
From Antares:
"Do you honestly get from that piece of text that the Empire specifically sought out TKAs to find Jedi?"
No, but they did seek out *a* TKA to find and kill rebels, including a Jedi. Like I said, your statement that the TKA Order didn't hunt Jedi wasn't entirely true, because at least one did.
From Mankind:
As I understand it, correct me if I'm wrong, but Arden was given the chance to live by Vader if she killed Luke
I don't think Arden Lyn appeared in anything outside of that game, and I don't remember anything like that. And in the various TKA appearances I don't recall the Empire ever having anything against the TKA themselves. After all, they weren't anywhere near as powerful as the Jedi, they were strong but didn't use the Force and even the most powerful martial artist isn't any real threat to a technologically advanced, vast Empire with huge armies and vast armadas of military starcraft.
A single Jedi took down the Death Star using the Force. I don't think a TKA meditating in the cockpit of an X-Wing could repeat that action.
Mankind00
Fri Aug 20, 2004 5:53 pm
#71
I remember reading it somewhere a while ago, I can't find anything on it at the moment though, it was probably fan fiction stuff. Still the idea of them been wiped out by the Empire was a knock on effect of the extermination of the Jedi by Palpatine, if I remember rightly the idea was theat they were in the area watching & they got caught up in it. They were considered powerful the reason they were killed is as they did know how to fight force users & so on. I think that was the general idea of it. I'll have a good hunt & see if I can find anything that links to anything thats even similar to what I read. Weather or not it was offical though it is deffinatly something SOE should talk to Lucas Arts about as it was a VERY good idea. Maybe then SWG could contribute it's own bit to the Star Wars universe 
antares_Kauri
Fri Aug 20, 2004 5:58 pm
#72
Midros wrote:
No, I was not implying that only TKAs could sense the force around others. I used the word "unique" because they have the ability to sense the force, but not manipulate it.
Well, in the sparse references there are, the Empire all but destroyed every TKA, which doesn'tquite sound the same as enlisting them to help. As was said before, Arden was captured and sent to kill Rebels, one of whom happened to be a Jedi, but she was likely killed when she failed.
antares
Mankind00
Fri Aug 20, 2004 6:27 pm
#73
Ok it's late here so I just did a quick forum search incase I could find a link to anything like I read, I found this post.
AlthoughI originaly read it on another site (one that has possibly disapeared since) this was pretty much what was said. Wether it be Fan Fiction or something a bit more substantial it was a very good read & deffinatly a very good back-story.
antares_Kauri
Fri Aug 20, 2004 6:35 pm
#74
I could write some fan fiction myself that said TKAs were bred from flying insects. At least use what's in the EU. Linked in the very first sticky on the forum.
antares
Maztag
Fri Aug 20, 2004 6:36 pm
#75
MagicalHAt wrote:
Id love to see BH's shift from jedi hunters to player hunters and Teras kasi to get jedi hunting.
This is how i feel exactly, TK are ment to keep the jedi in check as we should! BH should be able to hunt anybody a bounty is placed on, I won't get into how i think that hole player bounty system would work but from reading the SW books i can only think of maybe 2 times a bounty was placed on a jedi, then again last time i opened a SW book was awhile ago
Mankind00
Fri Aug 20, 2004 6:48 pm
#76
antares_Kauri wrote:
I could write some fan fiction myself that said TKAs were bred from flying insects. At least use what's in the EU. Linked in the very first sticky on the forum.
antares
The search button was closer then geting to the stickies so I went for the search first & found that first so shoot me
For that acculy peice though I'm not sure on the original origin of it, wether it be the guy in OnlyMaestro's link or if he copied it from somewhere else. The thing of this it also does follow what is known as "fact" on the TK, as Atama posted about the "Masters of the Teras Kasi" game's back-story. As I said before though wether it's Fan-fiction or something more it is still a very good peice (I origanly read it on a site somewhere but I can't remember where as it was a while back.). It's presence in OnlyMaestro's thread to me indicates it's deffinatly a popular choice of back-story as well.
Anyway yeah 3am, I'm off to bed, if I don't reply to any comments on that till tomorow you know why
Koa41
Fri Aug 20, 2004 7:40 pm
#77
Aation wrote:
I believe that Teras Kasi needs no further involvement with Jedi... Tracking skills are for Rangers and Jedi Bounties are for those who risk the skill points to get Investigation III. To me, Teras Kasi is the most fixed melee profession and it's popularity reflects this. It's accuracy is affective v. a jedi and the fact that we TKs can only do kinetic dmg doesn't affect us when fighting a jedi. defencesv. melee andrangedare great, the only thing that needs work is our defense acuity.
I find this a contradiction to what the Teras Kasi's role is. Originally, Teras Kasi's could sense force and use it if they chose but they use their inner energies to derive their own power instead of using The Force. The Teras Kasi hunted Jedi who got out of line so if could change it...Teras Kasi hunt Jedis, Bounty Hunters hunt smugglers..thats my 2 cents
Atama
Fri Aug 20, 2004 8:42 pm
#78
"As was said before, Arden was captured and sent to kill Rebels, one of whom happened to be a Jedi, but she was likely killed when she failed."
She didn't fail. When I played Masters of Teras Kasi, I played as her and beat the game. So she succeeded.
"At least use what's in the EU. Linked in the very first sticky on the forum."
Warning: The 4th link entitled "History of the Teras Kasi" is just fanfiction (something somebody made up that they thought sounded cool). It's just a post someone made on a Star Wars bulletin board devoted to stories people write.