Teras Kasi Archive
Thread: Teräs Käsi Focus: Jedi, Should We Have A Role...
Atama
Wed Aug 18, 2004 7:03 pm
#53
"But when a Jedi is next to us showing off his force powers I think we should get a tef."
I think you mean the Jedi should get a TEF to you.
Jedi should get a TEF to everyone. In fact they used to.
I agree that "policing" Jedi should be open to more than BHs, through TEFs. But it should be open to everyone, not just TKA.
Ryutek
Wed Aug 18, 2004 7:54 pm
#54
A sentiment I agree wholeheartedly with...
Atama wrote:
I think you mean the Jedi should get a TEF to you.
Jedi should get a TEF to everyone. In fact they used to.
I agree that "policing" Jedi should be open to more than BHs, through TEFs. But it should be open to everyone, not just TKA.
konik
Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:11 am
#55
if you want to hunt jedi do TKM/BH 3000
if you want to assist in hunts go TKM/MB/nov Medic/and a combination of melee defences.
if you want to be a mystical TK go TKM/Force powers
i don't think TKM in general should be given any special ability to hunt, we all have 250 skill points max them out wisely to who you want to be.
if you dont know where to put you sp you haven't played for long enough and to comment on skill changes is pretty shallow imho...
if you use all your skill points and understand your TKM profession and mix with others you can beat player Knights solo (as long as they don't run away
)
alot of if's there, but if i'm honest i think other professions need helping out first before TKA is looked at for any amendments, we have it pretty good already. Also i agree with the faction thing in the first post i mean cross factions go on group hunts together for PvE how is a player hunt any different, i think this should be sorted out.
and lastly i get so irritated by people that say 'we need content' MAKE YOUR OWN!! its not rocket science, the EU and canon attrributes of star wars are your foundation in SWG nothing more nothing less, how you build on these ideas is totally down to you, if you want interaction and relationship with jedi have it (there is enough external content to beef this up), if you just want to be some wandering grasshopper type be that. Neither path is wrong neither is right ultimatly its up to you how you play the game and no one has a right to tell you any different.
all i want is better effects for TK not just some red ribbons making us look like russian floorwork gymnasts...
if you want to assist in hunts go TKM/MB/nov Medic/and a combination of melee defences.
if you want to be a mystical TK go TKM/Force powers
i don't think TKM in general should be given any special ability to hunt, we all have 250 skill points max them out wisely to who you want to be.
if you dont know where to put you sp you haven't played for long enough and to comment on skill changes is pretty shallow imho...
if you use all your skill points and understand your TKM profession and mix with others you can beat player Knights solo (as long as they don't run away
)alot of if's there, but if i'm honest i think other professions need helping out first before TKA is looked at for any amendments, we have it pretty good already. Also i agree with the faction thing in the first post i mean cross factions go on group hunts together for PvE how is a player hunt any different, i think this should be sorted out.
and lastly i get so irritated by people that say 'we need content' MAKE YOUR OWN!! its not rocket science, the EU and canon attrributes of star wars are your foundation in SWG nothing more nothing less, how you build on these ideas is totally down to you, if you want interaction and relationship with jedi have it (there is enough external content to beef this up), if you just want to be some wandering grasshopper type be that. Neither path is wrong neither is right ultimatly its up to you how you play the game and no one has a right to tell you any different.
all i want is better effects for TK not just some red ribbons making us look like russian floorwork gymnasts...
Mankind00
Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:43 am
#56
Atama wrote:
"But when a Jedi is next to us showing off his force powers I think we should get a tef."
I think you mean the Jedi should get a TEF to you.
Jedi should get a TEF to everyone. In fact they used to.
I agree that "policing" Jedi should be open to more than BHs, through TEFs. But it should be open to everyone, not just TKA.
The phrase I agree with most that keeps coming up is "We are not Jedi Hunters" I think this is something alot of people need to remember, however saying that I do belive the Jedi need more of a reason to stay in hiding.
Iagree with this 100% but I can't help but wonder how reluctant the Devs are to puting something this big back in to the game, hense my suggestion on them becoming attackable by TKM's once they get over a certain point of Visibility, idealy higher then it takes for them to trigger a BH mission.If they gave us this at least then it would kick the Jedi out of the more populated caves due to thats where we would end up running in to them, however if they were in the middle of nowhere on Endor then they would need not worry. The diffrence between hunting & policing in this case is the hunters have a way to track the Jedi, we should not;same as we should get no reward for killing the Jedi,they wereabusing his powers & thus should be set stright.
I honnestly can't see the devs puting Saber TEF back in, but I think giving it under certain conditions to TKM's they might.
Just my 2creds.
Jibbrish
Thu Aug 19, 2004 10:20 am
#57
Ryutek wrote:
A sentiment I agree wholeheartedly with...
Atama wrote:
I think you mean the Jedi should get a TEF to you.
Jedi should get a TEF to everyone. In fact they used to.
I agree that "policing" Jedi should be open to more than BHs, through TEFs. But it should be open to everyone, not just TKA.
At least to the opposing faction(s). That would (and did) keep jedi in check.
Calfek
Fri Aug 20, 2004 7:19 am
#58
This is my idea on sorting out theJedi visibility problem
Howabout this upon a Jedi doing an action that crates visability, everyone in a certain radius (5-10m) recieves a box equivilent to being challenged to a duel.
eg. You have spotted a Jedi, would you like to become overt. Yes/No?
At the moment Jedi can walk around many cities with no fear and have duels while waiting for shuttles etc (which is no immersive) because they are fully aware that people would need to take a shuttle ride in order to go overt.
Think of the possibilities as well, a jedi fights everyone around them suddely picks a side, to attack or not, and no one who dosen't want to get involved has to.
You can take this one step further as well. BH's could have the ability to 'out' jedi (at this point they are unlikley to walk around with there title on) causinga trigger equivilent to them lighiting up there saber.
I honestly believe this kind of soulution has enough bite to keep multiple jedi walking round coronet. and should ease some of the frustrationsof people who wouldhonestly like to stop them but for whom it is impractical tospend huge amounts of time overt.
Gavvot
Fri Aug 20, 2004 10:31 am
#59
Visibility of Jedi as only to do with the empire.
TKA has nothing to do with visibility of Jedi, BH has.
For TKA, Jedi can be as visible as they want, as long as they don't abuse their power.
TKA has nothing to do with visibility of Jedi, BH has.
For TKA, Jedi can be as visible as they want, as long as they don't abuse their power.
Cayde
Fri Aug 20, 2004 11:20 am
#60
Hi,
Cayde Here - Bounty Hunter Extraordinaire. I'm currently running a TKM/pistoleer/BH template after pub 9 and I must say TK has been the determining factor in completing my mission against jedi. It is hard to get anything ranged through against jedi, and especially with lack of defenses with bh and pistoleer still being broken. I think you TKers should try out BH, it can be quite fun hunting jedi. For those of you that don't want to pick up BH (you will be prettymuch out of skill points), you should join a good BH guild, where you will find yourselves most appreciated and never short of usefulness. =D
Midros
Fri Aug 20, 2004 1:01 pm
#61
Atama wrote:
"But when a Jedi is next to us showing off his force powers I think we should get a tef."
I think you mean the Jedi should get a TEF to you.
Jedi should get a TEF to everyone. In fact they used to.
I agree that "policing" Jedi should be open to more than BHs, through TEFs. But it should be open to everyone, not just TKA.
/agree totally
antares_Kauri
Fri Aug 20, 2004 1:18 pm
#62
Midros wrote:
Saying that no Jedi was ever killed by a TKA in the movies is pointless, because the TKAs were never mentioned or shown. I have talked with a lot of star wars freaks (read eery single EU bok, and own them), and they all tell me that the empire used TKAs to hunt down the jedi. Because of their unique brand of sensitvity to the force TK masters could sense the force around another individual, which is how they helped the empire identify jedi in hiding.
Wow. This is a new one. The empire did not use some order of TKAs to identify and hunt Jedi. Also, are you somehow implying that Jedi, i.e. Vader, could not also sense the Force in people, that TKAs were the only ones who could?
antares
Mankind00
Fri Aug 20, 2004 1:28 pm
#64
3D4D wrote:
Yeah I wish the devs would bring back jedi TEF
Same, but as I say in 1 of my earlier postsI can't see them giving it back the way it was, but MAYBE they will to TK, I dunno, it's just an idea, no method of hunting of anything, just the same as it was before Pub.9 we might be able to pull that....
Atama
Fri Aug 20, 2004 1:41 pm
#65
"Wow. This is a new one. The empire did not use some order of TKAs to identify and hunt Jedi."
Actually, that's not entirely true.
See, the entire concept of Teras Kasi first appeared in (of all things) a Street Fighter-type tournament fighting game on the Playstation. It was called Star Wars: Masters of Teras Kasi.
In that game was a character named Arden Lyn. The official site for the game states:
As the order of Jedi resurfaces, so do the teachings of teräs käsi, in the form of Arden Lyn, master of teräs käsi. A Palawan warrior from the time of Jedi, her youthfulness belies her actual age. Her skills as one of the last teräs käsi masters has attracted the attention of the Emperor and Darth Vader, who have assigned her to track down and take out key Rebel Alliance personnel. Arden, however, has her own agenda...
One of those "key Rebel Alliance personnel" happens to be Luke Skywalker. And "her own agenda" is to test her fighting skills by killing Luke.
Note this is a Lucasarts game, meaning that anything in it is subject to the same continuity restrictions as Star Wars Galaxies.
Now, nowhere in that game, or anywhere else (other than fan fiction) is it stated that the entire Teras Kasi Order is intended to "hunt down" or "keep in check" Jedi. There was a Star Wars Encyclopedia entry that alluded to it, but among all the various citings of TKAs that's the only one that mentions it and its credibility is often questioned.