Teras Kasi Archive

Thread: why are we (MTKA) so hated? :(

hase2
Thu Mar 18, 2004 4:07 am
#53

i found an interesting thread on the pistoleer forum about a group getting owned by a TKM/Rifleman



http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=pistoleer&message.id=41288


read it and you know why TKs are hated.


farnargle
Thu Mar 18, 2004 6:18 am
#54

Who cares what other profs do. I'll master it if I really want to know. That's the great thing about this GAME, if one doesn't like how one prof is going, one can move to another. Now for an opinion. TKM's are not the best option for pvp anymore. I have more luck with my fencer side when fighting people with armor now. Don't get me wrong, we can still do some damage to people without armor, but fencer goes through the high kinetic resist armor so nicely I think we will be seeing a lot of pistoleers/fencers fairly soon. The dodge is working quite nicely on that combo. I'm curious to see if people start flocking to carbineer now. The great thing about this game is hatred always moves to another prof. As to all the people who claim hatred for tkm's because of our attitude...get a life. I hate to burst your bubble, but if you base your hatred for an entire prof on a few chumps, you are a chump yourself. I don't hate anyone or any prof in this game. I do have a dislike for IMP's though
Mandril
Thu Mar 18, 2004 9:51 am
#55






Albwan wrote:
tk are hated because its the only profession(at least that i have done) thats not crap. most of the hate comes from ch'ers, which really are not that bad.






As a CH'er, I put in my 2cr. It's not that that TK class is "overpowerd" versus CH pets, it's that CH pets were nerfed into the basement versus anything except PvE mobs. When a 12k HAM pet with 60% Kinetic and AR1 falls to a TK in under 30 seconds, it's likely someone's gonna cry Nerf. The nerf was to CH's, not TK's, though. The intelligent CH's are asking for a little moreoomph in their pets, not a nerf of TK's. Whether or not that happens is up to the Gods of Game Balance. We aren't holding our breaths.





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Dracovious
Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:09 am
#56






Mattius wrote:

Reason - Dizzy / KD


I was beaten up by a MTKA the other day. Doctor Buff 80% comp moun.....


First thing that happened Dizzy / KD.



Ok it's a good move. I'm glad you can do it. However the next 5 minutes (literally) were very BOOORING as the TKA tried to get through my armor. All I could do was sit there. Eventually he beat up my mind and that was that.



I didn't mind getting knocked down. What sucked was STAYING there. Why people hate it is cause for the most part once you are down, you can't get up. I can't even swing my pike around TRYING to hit the guy who is standing on top of me.


It makes PVP boring. I've been wondering if haveing SL more to remove dizzy (formup I think?) would help. But then that means in order to combat dizzy / KD I have to waste points on SL to get it.


I would have loved to fight straight out, but seriously people get pissed at that dizzy / KD. And it has nothing to do with not knowing how to play yer class. We can TRY to dizzy, and the KD the TKA (i dunno if we even can), but you guys just go so much faster. if anything the guy who just does the dizzy / KD can't play, cause all he has to do is keep us on the ground.












Yeah I feel the same way when going against Voritor hunters and those MOKK or MONKK's that hover around certain player cities. Sad thing is i'm a TKA. I don't mind it, but the down time is rediculous. If its going to be like you might as well make knockdowns the way they use to be. My opinion. I'm cool with dieing and losing a fight in PvE, but c'mon some of the dizzy affects when your postures changed or you knocked down are ridiculous.



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~ Bounty Hunter ~
"Good? Bad? I'm the rodian with the gun."

RottaBetito
Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:41 am
#57

the only concern I have with TK is the meditation line. Besides a line from brawler to go novice TK, it should require a line from medic.


Nuff said






Rotta Betito
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SoonToBeBountyHunter
Thu Mar 18, 2004 6:23 pm
#58

they hate us because they let us walk up to them and kd/dizzy them then they rant on the boards because instead of thinking they stood there and spammed shots and didn't run and were complete moronsand let a tka walk up to them.



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ByygPapa
Thu Mar 18, 2004 6:51 pm
#59

actually, I'm beginning to hate you because you all seem completely content w/ your little personal one-sided beat-downs of helpless victims and could obviously care less about fair fights


surely there are at least a FEW TKM's out there who find this a bit cheap.


as far as being morons and letting you get close, I WANT YOU CLOSE SO I CAN HIT YOU WITH MY SWEET-LOOKING SCYTHE


whether i win or lose at that point isnt nearly as important as actually getting to fight...





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atone48732
Thu Mar 18, 2004 7:22 pm
#60

actually


I only use KD against ranged people so they cannot kite


I fight a fair fight and may the best man win when I am against a fellow melee


and I have had my ass handed to me by a fencer friend too


then again a couple of swordsmen friends have owned me too LOL


and we were both at an equal skill level at the time





Oelos Takushi: smuggler proud member of Oi and Smugglers alliance pilot..

Elalia Takushi: Dancer and rebel pilot and member of Oi
bring back TEras Kasi and the melee profs as expertise skills.. bring some fun and real diversification to SWG
Hopelesscase
Thu Mar 18, 2004 8:14 pm
#61

I'd like to see dizzy changed to a "snare" effect, you know, running slower due to the world spinning around you sort of thing than the way it is now. KD, I have no problem with. Dizzy isa little rediculous.


Hitting stand slowly as I described before does seem to work for me. Did several times last night. And I think a fix to that bug where hitting stand while standing makes you fall again would help in the current implementation but I would hope it is in some way addressed. As it is, KD/Dizzy is kinda silly if you are not real careful with your fingers and sometimes even when you are careful.


NharYstta
Thu Mar 18, 2004 8:48 pm
#62






RottaBetito wrote:

the only concern I have with TK is the meditation line. Besides a line from brawler to go novice TK, it should require a line from medic.


Nuff said









TKA as a hybrid profession? Interesting. I could kind of dig that. I would have to rework my template a bit, and it might be more of an incentive for me to try to master medic. Interesting.


But, wouldnt it be kind of cool if everyone had something that was just out there like that? Maybe not everyone, but a few other combat professions? Something just wacky.




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oliphontmon
Thu Mar 18, 2004 8:57 pm
#63


Message Edited by oliphontmon on 03-18-2004 08:02 PM

sacrfice988
Thu Mar 18, 2004 9:18 pm
#64

well im not a tka im a bh but if you wonder why we dont like your profession to much as far as most bh i would say because we CANT win. we can try to kite you but we will miss almost ever time. we can try to get close to use llc but we will be knocked down before we know it. even if we are buffed and on spice we do not last long against you unless we run away and u follow. i have dueled master tka's alot and for a 10 minute fight i have only hit them a few times. finally my character just got tired of running and i gave up. its not that u know how to play your character well and i dont its because you are overpowered. not your fault just game design fault.



im a master bh and know how to play my character im a true bh no ther real skills. i have novice medic and a little pistoleer but it has never helped me in a fight vrs. a tka. maybe once MAYBE twice i have been lucky enough to incap one of you little heathens [ , but in lets say 50 duels i have one maybe 4 times. i have talked to master tkas before and they have admitted that yes they are overpowered . im just answering your question the way people see it and not sugar-coating it. flame if you want but at least you got an answer.


atone48732
Thu Mar 18, 2004 9:27 pm
#65

maybe BH should be fixed instead of nerfing the hell out of tka?


what do ya think


why dont we get professions fixed instead of an all out nerf fest


I mean thats no fun to have any profession nerfed





Oelos Takushi: smuggler proud member of Oi and Smugglers alliance pilot..

Elalia Takushi: Dancer and rebel pilot and member of Oi
bring back TEras Kasi and the melee profs as expertise skills.. bring some fun and real diversification to SWG
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