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Thread: IM SICK OF TKM KILLING YOU IN 1 HIT IF YOU ARE NOT BUFFED >=(
I killed 12 people last night. And they deserved it. I actually had a commando KNEEL before he shot me. HOW STUPID!! What is the matter with you idiots? When a guy charges at you with a melee weapon and you have a gun, RUN!! Every single dink I fought last night just STOOD there. Do you think you are jus so uber that you can stand your ground and kill a martial artist point blank with a rifle? Unbuffed?? Uneducated??? Unprepaired????
I died 2 times last night, once due to LD, the other from a master scout with NO elite skills and a laser carbine. Do you know how he did it? He RAN!! Big freekin novice concept.
So go change your diapers and shove a pacifier in your mouth baby. You just got taken to school. Welcome to the big leagues.
If the person you are fighting is TKM that isn't backed up with Master Brawler then they will lose if you stay at least 21 m out... And even if you are at 20 m, all we use is the unarmed lunge which has a chance to change your posture that would give us a chance to close the distance.
You thought, like a lot of people think, that you could stand there and blast them before they closed the distance.
Silly stupid N00b.. Learn to fight and stop crying on the boards.. But then again it is good to see ten year olds contributing... Even if they are N-Uber fighters..
Thanks to Vasarian Brandy I am now the town drunk and ONLY go to the AA meetings to brag about the killing spree done during my drunken rage.Windsplitter,
Thanks for the great reply. I'm going to wait and see how it all pans out. I'm about halfway to Pistoleer master at the moment. It's my hope that this fighting profession is worth the effort. A wookiee without armor has to have some sort of advantage in PVP and I think I'm sorely lacking. I know health shot won't do me any good toward TKM. The only thing I can do is sick my pets and run like hell. lol I think it would do much for the CH to add some pets that meet every need in a PVP situation. Not anything overbearing, but something that will allow for strategic gameplay, which is really what it's all about---strategy makes gaming much more fun. Unbalanced fighting is no fun and I still feel there are some issues to be addressed (hopefully in the patches coming). We'll see. I want to be able to do something in PVP. If I end up having to change from Pistoleer to something else I will do it--not because of uber power, but to be a real competitor in PVP when I decide to go for one side or the other.
Thanks again for the post. 
If killing a non-buffed player in 5 sec is overpowered, then most of the elite classes (except chef, musician....) are overpowered.
Now, i suppose you dont realize that i dont fear fighting a mob with 10k HAM, 40% resist and AR1 (if i'm buffed of course, else i avoid the fight). Whereas i fear more fights against NPC like basic stormtrooper (if the AI decide to make him run forever, i'm dead). And i almost fear fights against PCs.
I've been noticing most whiners are pure ranged class, no melee. So in the unfortunate circumstance that they get within melee range, no wonder they get owned.
I have both ranged and melee and I fair well in either situation.
Why don't you hear about Merchants wanting Chefs nerfed? They are entirely seperate classes and serve their purpose. People tend to forget this.
just about every proffesion has it in them to do a one hit kill when they are master....
if you were knocked down, and they used hit 3...you would die VERY fast....but i honestly don't think tkas have it in them to quite doa 1 hit....2 or three i could belive pretty easy though....
See, Freth we can be civil, we just get alittle worked up when it comes to nerfs... wish SOE would listen to what there nerfs do to us... we end up at each others troughts... (to be honest... i the fact i get so worked up over a game is troubling to me... it's a personl flaw i'm working on... to be honest i'm glad you brought the nastyness of my first post to light... i'm not normally like that... perhaps i still have more work to do...)
anyway, being a MCH myself... you have no idea how close i was to quiting this game when they killed my best friends... I had this graul mauler, named Baka. God i loved him. He wasn't like other mauler that run all over the map... he knew how to tank... he stood his ground... and we did some amazing stuff together... I still have him... but i'm scared to use him... he's not the pet i once knew anymore... This last CH nerf was almost the last straw for me... I understood SOE's disiear to move away from the "pet wars" mytho... but they went to far... your right CH is a JOKE right now...
I'll be first to back you up on pet buffs. they need them. heck if they got them, enemies would get harder, and the godly tkm wouldn't seem so godly... Think of all the pets you had that got nerfed... so did there wild counter parts... the game got easier with that nerf.
but how to balance the obvisouly need ch buff, while not returning the the days of poka starwars... i'm not really sure... i think it lies in specilized pets... have a few with 90 -100 to kinitic, or energy, or what not, and leaving them weak to everthing else... maybe buff mid lvl pets so you can form teams that accually amount to something...
This game... is a work in progress... beta 4 if you will. Here's my more reasonible side showing... give it time. They'll work the buggs out. Dispite what people think, the dev's really do want to fix this crap and make it a killer game... they've hit alot of snags along the way mind you, but i honestly belive there intentions are good. give them time... if your not having fun right now, back away and try something else, and come back later and see if it's fixed... maybe you'll have fun then... and I think we all need to relize that...(myself more than others it appeares...) This is just a game... chill. 
thanks guy. I knew reading your first post you had good intentions as well. You helped bring me back to realitly, and i appreasite that.
Later all, works over and it's time to head home....(and play some SWG... after i eat ofcourse... lol)
KingSnake.
Freth wrote:
...but after reading up a bit on TKM suggestions I'm convinced I have a fighting chance---not with pets, but with my Pistoleer skills. What I and many other CH's have been griping about is that our pets have pretty much been rendered useless in PVP. There are a couple exceptions to this rule with some pets that have high resistances to certain things, but for the most part pets just get owned. I'm for beefing pets a bit to give us some help in PVP. NOT overpowering help, but stat adjustments and a wide variety of resistance pets to choose from so we can use our beloved pets in PVP and make a difference. What do you guys think? Is that too much for a CH to ask for? No overpowering pets, just some decent advantages, much like TKM has.
Exactly what pets do you have that you're using vs TKAs? If you aren't using your Toxic Merek Battlelord/Delirious Merek Avenger, or your BE'd kimo with 55%+ kinetic and AR1....what are you using? You can't expect your favorite nuna to have a chance in PvP...the damage reduction doesn't apply to pets at all, and really shouldn't (given that the best pets have 11k ham). So why should all pets be beefed up just cuz their owner gets into a fight against someone else?
That being said, you don't see TKM's going after TMBs and DMA's when looking for their favorite targets for PvE. Why? Cuz all we got is kinetic, and if we're forced to use VK's, we're in deep trouble vs these creatures because of HAM costs. But, look at it this way - if YOU can take on these creatures using your pets and pistoleer skills, why can't a TKM as well?
There is no reason why pets with no armor and lower kinetics are supposed to stand a chance against us. If that's the kind of 'beefage' you're looking for, I'm afraid that's just outta balance.
Again, KingSnake... thanks for the awesome post. I agree. I have the same problem being civil at times, especially when I'm extremely pissed or something tweaks me the wrong way.
Laeren wrote:
Exactly what pets do you have that you're using vs TKAs? If you aren't using your Toxic Merek Battlelord/Delirious Merek Avenger, or your BE'd kimo with 55%+ kinetic and AR1....what are you using? You can't expect your favorite nuna to have a chance in PvP...the damage reduction doesn't apply to pets at all, and really shouldn't (given that the best pets have 11k ham). So why should all pets be beefed up just cuz their owner gets into a fight against someone else?
That being said, you don't see TKM's going after TMBs and DMA's when looking for their favorite targets for PvE. Why? Cuz all we got is kinetic, and if we're forced to use VK's, we're in deep trouble vs these creatures because of HAM costs. But, look at it this way - if YOU can take on these creatures using your pets and pistoleer skills, why can't a TKM as well?
There is no reason why pets with no armor and lower kinetics are supposed to stand a chance against us. If that's the kind of 'beefage' you're looking for, I'm afraid that's just outta balance.
I was using my best pets.
First duel:
Level 69 Kimo, Light Armor
13k HAM / 520-530 damage / Knockdown and Dizzy Strike - 42% Kinetic
*Note: I do have another Kimo that's level 57 Light Armor 10800 HAM 530-540 - 60% Kinetic but I did not use him. He's basically a frenzied graul in a kimo skin. I didn't think 18% Kinetic would make much difference, and in reality it wouldn't have. I've dueled this kimo with a TKM before and it couldn't hang either.
Second duel:
A bugged level zero Rancor with no resists/no armor, but dealing out a whopping 635-647 damage, 10800 HAM
Two BE narglatches (both light armor):
Level 30 11100 HAM 350-360 47% Kinetic Strong Poison/Strong Disease
Level 29 10800 HAM 290-300 55% Kinetic Stunning Strike/Strong Poison
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Now you would think with all that power being thrown at a TKM there would be some fight of some kind taking place. She knocked down the two narglatches and commenced to beating on them. I don't think she touched the rancor all that much, but he should've been poinding the hell out of her. I suppose she must've been buffed beyond belief, because I wasn't seeing any healing going on during the battle. I had this happen once before with first first kimo after I got it (see note), the TKM's health wouldn't budge, just kept coming back hit after hit. Now consider the strong poison and disease which the TKM acquired. Didn't affect them in the slightest. That's why I was upset about the duels. My best pets didn't amount to a hill of beans.
These pets are no slouches. BE's can't even make the narglatches anymore with the stats they have because the latest BE change makes it impossible. And these narglatches take on enraged bull rancors with a fair amount of ease, they're pretty much tanks. I'll leave the judgement up to you as to whether you think it's imbalanced in PVP or not. I happen to think it is, IF we're to use pets in PVP. Kinetic pets don't have a chance. It would be interesting to try a Gaping Spider Recluse with AOE Poison just once. I'd be doing it hit and run, because it would go down quick. Tell it to follow me as I run like hell, then attack, follow, attack, follow... all the while firing my health shot 1 and 2 or fan shot from a decent distance. It'd take some work, but maybe I could beat a TKM. *shrug*
Thanks for the great posts. Lots of good sound advice and points being made.
Pets Damage sucks. Stike two.
Deathtol wrote:
You obvioulsy dont PVP that often if you have only been overwelmed by a tka and no other class has beat you. Have you never been one shoted by a LLC or Crippling shot? How bout a nice stopping shot or 2 from a master pistoleer. O O O how bout a flame dot or one shot incap from a commando??? We all die all.
My personal fav. butt kicking i got was my a lady pistoler... not to long after become a big bad unstoppable TKM... she's asking for a friendly duel at the star port... I got my PB going and figure i'll give it a try...
she see's the TKM tag and makes some comment like..."if you promise not to kill me I'll give you a go..."
kind of build up my head somewhat...
fight started.... lasted 5 secs... when like this...
I war cry and fail...
she kicks me in the nutz...(low blow), hit's me in the head...(pistol melee2.) then shot me the face as i doubble over in pain...(stopping shot.) Fights over. She wins hands down.
Moral of the story... don't fight a woman.... err... don't take a butt kicking personally... review your combat log... and learn from your mistakes...
I've faired better in pvp since that day... but i'm still beaten fairly reagulary... dispite my TKM godlyness...
KingSnake.
KingSnake777 wrote:
My personal fav. butt kicking i got was my a lady pistoler...
I war cry and fail...
she kicks me in the nutz...(low blow), hit's me in the head...(pistol melee2.) then shot me the face as i doubble over in pain...(stopping shot.) Fights over. She wins hands down.
KingSnake.