Teras Kasi Archive

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KnightHawk420 wrote:

master rifleman loses to a tka, lemme tell you that doesnt happen often.

Unless of course you get fully buffed and jump 3 goons and beat the hell out of them before they even know what was going on. hehe

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yeah... i guess i could do that... the word doc that is...hmm...

thanks, guess i'll have to stop being lazy... LOL

KingSnake.

too bad this isnt baseball, what does 4 strikes get you?

You were wrong on all 4 counts whinner. Why cant you just accept that you an your group were stupid an go on? Nope, thats too **edit** easy, an logical for you huh? You couldnt Possibly be beat because your Sooo Uber 1337.

Any Melee Class would have owned you 3 just as easy, you, my n00bish little friend were Prone and got owned, so go cry somewhere where people might have sympathy for you. Maybe the Chef boards, they seem to be pretty nice guys, an love to feed lil boys food an drinks.

Ok, in general, i'll agree, there are a lot of TKA's in the profession right now that are fairly powerfull.

I personally have been mater TKA since shortly after server launch. I started out wanting to be a TKM, and i got there and kept it. I've had other professions(mostly was smuggler for a few months, then started switching around to follow my holocrons) Yes, TKA is powerfull, if used correctly. But if not, then we're in big trouble.

First of all, i'd reckon that TKA has probably the 3rd highest HAM cost in the game, second only to carbiners and pikeman. When i had a friend that wanted to get some medical exp, i just went around spaming UnarmedHit3 on a lair(just took a muon gold for my mind) I can drain my stats in seconds with my Vibro knuckler equiped. Yes, i have killed a BH in 3 hits( kd/dizzy hit mind, then UH3 twice, both hid health) he wasn't master, but i know that it is possible to kill people really quickly when they are unprepared. I also know of a master rifleman that one shot my mind in PvP(although i think that was due to that slicing exploit as he hit my mind for over 1k damage in PvE, but not sure)

TKA's biggest downfall is we have no protection against status changes, or not enough to count. use supression fire, anything, it will work almost every time. Better yet, use your dizzy attack in rifleman then suppression fire, now if we try to stand we fall on our asses.

Simply put, TKA is a very powerfull profession, but so are a lot of others out there, it's justa matter if you actually use them to their full potential or not. i know of a few people who are going down the road of Pure Melee, and let me tell you, they are nuts to beat. One of my friends is master Fencer, master TKA, so he's almost impossible to knock down(which by the way is the reason we are good at PvP, because Unarmed Knock Down 2 dizzy's as well, and if they dont' have defence it can mean your done for).

I'll also agree that TKA should be powerfull, i think it has been stated in just about every EU book that lists TKA, and even the manual, that TKA are feared even by Jedi. Jedi fear TKA because they have such control over their bodies that they can dodge attacks easily while they counterattack. Now, TKA in truth isn't nearly where it should be speaking with the continuety. But if they were to make TKA as powerfull as it's supposed to be, then TKA would need to be an Elite Elite profession, maybe you have to master brawler, and fencer to become a TKA. but that won't happen, and at the moment, TKA isn't powerfull enough to merit that change. As stated, tka can take down a master BH, IF they get in range, if not then the BH can just kite them and they are done for. Every profession has it's weakness, and closing the distance is the weakness for every melee class.

Rifleman's weakness on the other hand is brawler classes. You guys are weak against melee damage, so for you to get in range of a tka is suicidal at best.

The only thing that anoy's me at the moment is that everybody thinks that TKA is so uber that there are a lot of people becoming TKA's, and that makes me want to drop it so that i don't have to put up with all the holo tka's or the people talking crap because of the influx of tka's. I've been a TKA since the profession was broken beyond all recognition. I remember when powerboost just gave you a bunch of wounds and Batlle fatigue(great for helping dancer's and musicians) and when Force of will almost never worked. I remember when KD was broken and in PvE and PvP you could just spam KD and they could never get up. They fixed that. after a kd goes on, they can't use it again for 30 seconds. So if you can stand up through that dizzy(or you're lucky and the dizzy doesn't stick) the TKA can't do much to you.(other than try to lunge you back to kneeling and dizzy you)

Ok, now i'm getting off on a bit of a rant here, but i'm just explaining how 1, you're overexagerating with the 1 hit kill, and 2 the increase of TKA's is not only annoying to others, it's annoying to the TKA's that have been here through the process, the people that truely love their profession.

I've been a fencer, a pistoleer, a smuggler and a medic. But nothing to me is more fun than running into combat, and tanking some insane creature with my 80% kinetic armor while trying my darndest to keep the creature busy. Center of being, warcry and KD are the only way i can walk out of some fights alive, but it'smore skillthan it is the profession. I've made mistakes that have cost me a fight(like accidentally hiting kd after a target was already knocked down, or hitting lunge while they are knocked down. That instantly causes them to stand back up.

Wait there's an exploit and a half, just go into battle and if you get kd/dizzy'd quickly duel your buddy, get them to lunge at you(or supression fire, any posture changing move) you'll stand up and be fine. Would take co-ordination, but if used properly you could exploit a tka right out of their kd moves that way.(I'm just kidding about doing that) But still, always remember to use what you have. If you can shoot somebody at 60 meters, try to stay at that distance, especially since you are best at 60 meters, and every other profession sucks at 60 meters.

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dci321 wrote:

Will someone please take that stupid crap OUT OF THE GAME ALREADY! I AM SOOOOOOOOOO SICK of TKMs.EVEN THOSE WHO ARE IN MY OWN FACTION, EVERY GOD DAMNED TKM IN THIS GAME HAVE IT SO EASY THEY THINK THEY OWN EVERYTHING AND JUST KILL STUFF OUT OF HABBIT.

REPEAT AFTER ME , B R O K E N !!!

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ok... i'll be nice about this.. (did i not say when he came back he'd have nothing revelent to say, only personal attacks at us? re read my badly writen post and you'll see... people are so pridictible...)

1. I'm 25.

2. haven't missed a day of work in 6 years thank you very much... (Quite proud of that if you can't tell.)

3. I never lie anymore... when i was a child i was known to lie to school mates, because i wanted to be accepted... but i got over that around the 9th grade when they never accepted me and i stopped caring anymore... around that time I also discoverd that lieing is a sin, and have strived to be as painfully honest as i can be... but I NEVER lied to my parents... even as a delequient child I always felt that that was just plain wrong... beside mom could see right through me....

4. to be honest i very rearly win in PvP... which is why i don't belive TKM are overly uber... if it were... surely i'd win more than i do now... I openly admit i suck at pvp... I don't really have fast twitch reflex skills... and being dislexixc I almost always press the wrong keys... (i love spaming peace instead of Melee hit 3...) Were tkm as godly as people say... i'd win more often dispite my sucky pvp skills.. but i don't...

Look. You got beat. You weren't buff. You weren't ready. and the guy you fought obvisuly knew what he was doing. Learn from it and move on... i guess i don't have much patchince with sour losesrs.... i've been a loser in sports, videogames, and just about everything else you can imagain, (i'm not very athlitic, save lifting weights, which, requires stranght and nothing else. and i don't have a very competitive drive... I'm a natural born jober as it were... lol) and i keep coming back for more... I learn from my mistakes, and I eventually get better... Try it, you'll be a better gamer for it.

KingSnake

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Freth wrote:

Here comes my CH viewpoint...

I'm not a TKM. ...

Anyway... I'd hope you people would be more mature and treat people the way you'd want to be treated. As for the first person that replied to the original poster... you have a lot of room to talk. Looks like you need to go back to English class and learn a little more before you spout off insults to someone else. I can't stand people ripping other people, thinking their **edit** doesn't stink when it's obvious theirs smells worse. Just an observation. And hey, that's my own opinion.

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That's right, your NOT a TKM. But you are a CH. So you do know what it is like to be "adjusted" cause of the crying of people who doPvP encounters. Being "adjusted" cause of the PvP portion of this game bites bigtime.

Me, I just want to have fun. I do not participate in PvP in this game cause it is a joke. It takes no skill except to be able to click faster and have no lag.

I have a toon that is an MCH and a TKM. I just want to be left alone to have fun in the PvE portion of the game but because of whinning like the original posters I have to put up with "adjustments" so that SOE will not lose the Whinny Crowd to another game. It gets my panties in a bunch when I read crap like "I got my ass kicked by a TKM cause I did not know what I was doing. Please fix or do something or I will whine more".

And that was my opinion.

KingSnake,

Wise words bud. I digress.

I just went off the handle in my own CH forum last night because a TKM kicked my pets all over the place. I dueled this person twice, used pets only---no firing. I was so mad when they lost. I mean, they didn't even have a fighting chance. I may have mentioned this before, but I don't have any faction yet, so I'm neutral. I've never played PVP, only experienced duels. What I've seen so far is discouraging, but after reading up a bit on TKM suggestions I'm convinced I have a fighting chance---not with pets, but with my Pistoleer skills. What I and many other CH's have been griping about is that our pets have pretty much been rendered useless in PVP. There are a couple exceptions to this rule with some pets that have high resistances to certain things, but for the most part pets just get owned. I'm for beefing pets a bit to give us some help in PVP. NOT overpowering help, but stat adjustments and a wide variety of resistance pets to choose from so we can use our beloved pets in PVP and make a difference. What do you guys think? Is that too much for a CH to ask for? No overpowering pets, just some decent advantages, much like TKM has. If I wanna keep my scout and MCH, I have to be choosy what profession I pick. Frankly, with the nerfs coming I wouldn't change from Pistoleer anyway until I know exactly how things have changed. That'll fix itself. But I'd definitely like to try out some PVP. The adrenaline rush should be worth it, even if I die a lot.

In PVP there are going to be times when you're caught off guard, plain and simple. I can understand his frustration, because everyprofession that thinks they're weaker than TKM are dead set on TKM nerf. I understand whythey feel this way. However, I will do my best to reserve further judgement on TKM until I can experience PVP for myself and come up with an accurate guestimation of what I can do as a MCH wookiee Pistoleer.

You already posted the *fix* yourself: YOU let him get in range and he killed you. Your fault there.

If youre a ranged profession - DONT ! read my lips: DO NOT let a TK get in range. You went prone with a slowpoke weapon and expect to survive ?

Scuse me Mr Krayt Dragon while I prone here to shoot your butt. No no !! Im supposed to lay here and youre supposed to ignore me ! Hey ! *smirk*