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Thread: Darth Maul: Teras Kasi?

Axuss
Sun Dec 05, 2004 1:25 pm
#53


The one question I ask myself before I go to bed at night.


Why couldn't of all the dead people just go to Coronet Cloning Center?!


I lose sleep torn by the question.
VBDotNetRulz
Sun Dec 05, 2004 2:18 pm
#54


Here is more info about Maul and TK:


1.

Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter. Jan 2001. Del Rey. Michael Reaves. Chapter 1.

Using the momentum of the forward thrust, Maul dived over the collapsing droid before him, flowing smoothly into a shoulder roll. He came up twirling his lightsaber overhead, then stepped down solidly into the teräs käsi wide stance called Riding Bantha.



Summary: Shows Darth Maul as a teräs käsi practitioner, that he used teräs käsi with his lightsaber, and mentions Riding Bantha as a stance.


2.

Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter. Jan 2001. Del Rey. Michael Reaves. Chapter 1.

Maul spun on his right foot and shot his left leg out in a powerful side kick, slamming his boot into the droid's armored chest, stopping it cold. He dropped into a squat, spun the lightsaber like a scythe, and sickled the droid cleanly at the knees. Lower legs gone, it collapsed as Maul again twisted himself and his weapon, flowing into the form known as Rancor Rising. He brought the right blade up between Chain's mechanical thighs, hard, using his leg muscles to augment the strike as he pushed up from the squat to a standing position. The force of his strike bisected Chain from its crotch right through the top of its head.


Summary: Shows Darth Maul's integration of teräs käsi with lightsaber, and mentions Rancor Rising as a stance.


3.

Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter. Jan 2001. Del Rey. Michael Reaves. Chapter 1.Maul dived again, rolled up in a half twist into the forraderi stance, ready to spring in any direction.

Summary: Mentions the forraderi stance and it's purpose.


4.

Darth Maul Shadow Hunter June 2001Page 137 The Jedi was obvioulsy a master of the Teras Kasi fighting arts as well, Judging by the smooth way he parried and counterattacked.

Summary: This quote is discusing Anoon Bondara(Jedi master) and according to Darth Maul maybe a master(or at least a student) of the Teras Kasi fighting arts



All This info and more can be found at teraskasi.net

The_Mandalorian316
Sun Dec 05, 2004 2:58 pm
#55






Atama wrote:




"boba doesn't die, boba was such a bada$$ he set off a thermal detonator INSIDE the sarlaac, KILLED it, and crawled out...
yes ladies and gentlemen, he set off a grenade from INSIDE the belly of the sarlaac KILLED if, BLASTED a hole in the side of it and CRAWLED back to jabbas palace
look it up"





Nope he died. Click the link I made earlier.





Why is it so hard to just respect what other people believe. orjust understand that you believe something different? I have no problem existing on the same planet that you do knowing that you think Boba Fett is dead, why cant you exist on the same planet as i do understanding that i believe him to be alive?


You dont take the EU into consideration, yet I do, and i respect your opinion, why is it hard to respect mine?


If i wanted to, i could discredit your source of proving Boba Fett to be dead, but i dont because it really doesnt even matter. Hes not real. The movie isnt real and the book isnt real. George Lucas says one thing but his marketing strategies say another. These are two different possibilities that you, the fan and comsumer can CHOOSE to believe. Understand that ive chosen one thing and youve chosen another. Is it really that hard to say 'I believe him to be dead?"

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Atama
Sun Dec 05, 2004 7:56 pm
#56

According to canon he's dead. Learn to deal with it. You seem to have a hard time doing so.



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RoadBurner
Sun Dec 05, 2004 10:15 pm
#57

I met Boba Fett last year in Michigan while being a roady for Elvis.

The_Mandalorian316
Sun Dec 05, 2004 11:42 pm
#58






Atama wrote:
According to canon he's dead. Learn to deal with it. You seem to have a hard time doing so.





Ok man, you took it there, remember.



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The_Mandalorian316
Sun Dec 05, 2004 11:57 pm
#59


From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

The Expanded Universe (or EU for short) is a collection of fictional background material from the Star Wars universe that is derived from official novels, comic books, and various other media besides the movies themselves. The Expanded Universe is considered canonical by Lucasfilm Ltd., though there are many fans of the movie series who do not agree. The Expanded Universe, however, has a continuity with few wrinkles. The general rule is that nothing in the Expanded Universe is allowed to contradict any other part of the Expanded Universe or the films. The films, however, do slightly contradict the Expanded Universe on occasion, and retcons are created in the Expanded Universe to fix these contradictions.


The earliest works involving Star Wars chronologically are the Tales of the Jedi comics series, which is set millennia before the films are. The most recent is the New Jedi Order, which is set about twenty years after Return of the Jedi.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expanded_Universe_(Star_Wars)


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Fett's armor and body were extremely battered by his ordeal in the Sarlacc. When he plunged into the beast, he was kept alive by numerous fibrous suckers that attached themselves to his body. This was part of the Sarlacc's horrible metabolic process; it would keep its prey alive for thousands of years, all the while slowly feeding off it. Fett almost lost his identity in the swirling dementia brought about by the Sarlacc's toxins. His resolve held, and he used his weapons to blast free of the beast.


http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/bobafett/?id=eu


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http://www.starwars.com/eu/



Sorry i had to break it down like that for you man. Like i said, as you are a consumer who pays for a Star Wars movie ticket and buys Star Wars comic books etc, you have the right to believe just exactly whatever you want to believe. But to go and say its canon, and then try to convice me that I, a Fett fan for many many years, am wrong and have the wrong information just bothers me a bit. Its nothing personal dude, i have nothing but respect for you.


For the record, the interview in which you posted the link for was conducted 1997. The Star Wars Databank information on Boba Fett was edited 2003-04.




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Atama
Mon Dec 06, 2004 9:49 pm
#60

Wikipedia is wrong. Whoever wrote that entry doesn't know the difference between EU and canon.

Continuity, Canon and Apocrypha


The STAR WARS films are the only primary reference. With the exception of only a few minor points, they are indisputable. This is not a merely personal opinion; it is the explicit policy of the Continuity and Production Editors at Lucasfilm. They are interviewed in STAR WARS Insider #23:

What's 'gospel' and what isn't?
'Gospel,' or canon as we refer to it, includes the screenplays, the films, the radio dramas and the novelisations. These works spin out of George Lucas' original stories, the rest are written by other writers. However, between us, we've read everything, and much of it is taken into account in the overall continuity. The entire catalog of published works comprises a vast history -- with many off-shoots, variations and tangents -- like any other well-developed mythology.



Sorry to break it to you, but Wikipedia can be contributed to by anyone who wants to, there are few controls on it. I've made Wikipedia entries just for the heck of it. It's not the official source for anything.

The entry in the Star Wars Databank is under the "EU" tab, thus not canon. You show me the interview where Lucas changed his mind about Fett being dead.

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ApollyonTB
Mon Dec 06, 2004 11:09 pm
#61






The_Mandalorian316 wrote:



Atama from what i've written you seem to not grasp the point. I have all right to believe a fictional character to be alive in a fictional world because im a fan, just like how you have all right to believe him tobe dead. I just wanted you to take note that the Star Wars Databank says hes alive, and for information regarding anything Star Wars, the official website would be telling the truth, but that really doesnt even matter anyway. They give direct information from written books that fans may be catching up on. Its that simple.


Lucas trumps StarWars.com?


Like i've mentioned before, if there is anything George Lucas has written that shows he wanted Fett dead, it would be recorded in Star Wars.com databank. Please do not copy and paste interviews, because ive seen them a million times.


George wanted him dead, maybe, but obviously if it were fact that Boba Fett were dead, it'd show up on the databank...just drop it, please. Thats George's interpretation of Star Wars, not mine.

And by the way, that interview was made in 1999.


Message Edited by The_Mandalorian316 on 11-29-2004 07:39 PM




Lucas created Fett, and he killed him. The Creator KILLED HIM, and confirmed it. Thus he is dead. Just like Vader is the One who balances the force. People beg to differ that Luke is the one who balances the force, but since the CREATOR, Lucas, said that Vader is the one who balances the force....no one can dispute it.



You can believe anorange is anapple all you want, but dont you dare get pissed off when you dont get an orange when you ask someone for an apple.





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The_Mandalorian316
Mon Dec 06, 2004 11:12 pm
#62






Atama wrote:
Wikipedia is wrong. Whoever wrote that entry doesn't know the difference between EU and canon.

Continuity, Canon and Apocrypha





The STAR WARS films are the only primary reference. With the exception of only a few minor points, they are indisputable. This is not a merely personal opinion; it is the explicit policy of the Continuity and Production Editors at Lucasfilm. They are interviewed in STAR WARS Insider #23:

What's 'gospel' and what isn't?
'Gospel,' or canon as we refer to it, includes the screenplays, the films, the radio dramas and the novelisations. These works spin out of George Lucas' original stories, the rest are written by other writers. However, between us, we've read everything, and much of it is taken into account in the overall continuity. The entire catalog of published works comprises a vast history -- with many off-shoots, variations and tangents -- like any other well-developed mythology.





Sorry to break it to you, but Wikipedia can be contributed to by anyone who wants to, there are few controls on it. I've made Wikipedia entries just for the heck of it. It's not the official source for anything.

The entry in the Star Wars Databank is under the "EU" tab, thus not canon. You show me the interview where Lucas changed his mind about Fett being dead.

Message Edited by Atama on 12-06-2004 08:51 PM




I've come to realize that were arguing two seperate arguements...


All of the information ive researched on Canon and Non canon takes me back to where i began in the first place: You can believe that Star Wars doesnt go past George Lucas's vision, or you can accept whats in the Star Wars Databank as i've just read that these are two different sorts of truths.


I suppose were two different kinds of fans then. You believe that Star Wars stops after the last film and i believe that it goes on through the Expanded Universe.


The arguement is finished then with Lucasarts to blame unfortunately. Im not up for arguing fact or fiction in this universe if the facts themselves arent straight.


The Expanded Universe in its entirety isnt discounted, but there are actuallyfour different arenas im looking at. You have the original trilogy, the special edition trilogy, Eu, and the prequels.


My overall opinion in this is that I take my life as a Star Wars fan beyond what i see in the movies. I personally believe that a real fan looks into the novels and continues the Star Wars exprience through the games, comics, etc. Thats of course my opinion.


So the answer to all fo this was really what kind of Star Wars fan are you. I take into account everything mentioned on Star Wars databank.


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The_Mandalorian316
Mon Dec 06, 2004 11:14 pm
#63







ApollyonTB wrote:





The_Mandalorian316 wrote:



Atama from what i've written you seem to not grasp the point. I have all right to believe a fictional character to be alive in a fictional world because im a fan, just like how you have all right to believe him tobe dead. I just wanted you to take note that the Star Wars Databank says hes alive, and for information regarding anything Star Wars, the official website would be telling the truth, but that really doesnt even matter anyway. They give direct information from written books that fans may be catching up on. Its that simple.


Lucas trumps StarWars.com?


Like i've mentioned before, if there is anything George Lucas has written that shows he wanted Fett dead, it would be recorded in Star Wars.com databank. Please do not copy and paste interviews, because ive seen them a million times.


George wanted him dead, maybe, but obviously if it were fact that Boba Fett were dead, it'd show up on the databank...just drop it, please. Thats George's interpretation of Star Wars, not mine.

And by the way, that interview was made in 1999.


Message Edited by The_Mandalorian316 on 11-29-2004 07:39 PM




Lucas created Fett, and he killed him. The Creator KILLED HIM, and confirmed it. Thus he is dead. Just like Vader is the One who balances the force. People beg to differ that Luke is the one who balances the force, but since the CREATOR, Lucas, said that Vader is the one who balances the force....no one can dispute it.



You can believe anorange is anapple all you want, but dont you dare get pissed off when you dont get an orange when you ask someone for an apple.








Ive just settled this. And whether the interview was released in 1999 still doesnt make it any different than 1997. The official website updated itself in 2003-2004. Dont tell me what and what not i should dare to do. This was a debate between me and Atama. I didnt insult him and i respect him greatly, please mind your own business if you're gonna be like that.


My bottom line was that Atama and I are from two seperate sides of the star wars fandom. He and obviously you believe the movies continue when George Lucas says they do, i believe that the story continues further than that.

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ApollyonTB
Mon Dec 06, 2004 11:20 pm
#64






The_Mandalorian316 wrote:





ApollyonTB wrote:





The_Mandalorian316 wrote:



Atama from what i've written you seem to not grasp the point. I have all right to believe a fictional character to be alive in a fictional world because im a fan, just like how you have all right to believe him tobe dead. I just wanted you to take note that the Star Wars Databank says hes alive, and for information regarding anything Star Wars, the official website would be telling the truth, but that really doesnt even matter anyway. They give direct information from written books that fans may be catching up on. Its that simple.


Lucas trumps StarWars.com?


Like i've mentioned before, if there is anything George Lucas has written that shows he wanted Fett dead, it would be recorded in Star Wars.com databank. Please do not copy and paste interviews, because ive seen them a million times.


George wanted him dead, maybe, but obviously if it were fact that Boba Fett were dead, it'd show up on the databank...just drop it, please. Thats George's interpretation of Star Wars, not mine.

And by the way, that interview was made in 1999.


Message Edited by The_Mandalorian316 on 11-29-2004 07:39 PM




Lucas created Fett, and he killed him. The Creator KILLED HIM, and confirmed it. Thus he is dead. Just like Vader is the One who balances the force. People beg to differ that Luke is the one who balances the force, but since the CREATOR, Lucas, said that Vader is the one who balances the force....no one can dispute it.



You can believe anorange is anapple all you want, but dont you dare get pissed off when you dont get an orange when you ask someone for an apple.








Ive just settled this. And whether the interview was released in 1999 still doesnt make it any different than 1997. The official website updated itself in 2003-2004. Dont tell me what and what not i should dare to do.





The original script shows him die, which infact outdates the website. The interview precedes the website. EU is renowned for contradicting the original movies. If Lucas ever makes episods VII- the EUY into movies we will see who eats humble pie.



Lucas said he is dead, until lucas himself, the creator of the movies and of Fett, says otherwise, then ....he is dead. I dont care what the hell a website says. The creator said he is dead, and thus, he is dead. Liek or not the truth remains. and yes....you can kick scream, whine, yell, and even weep openly, but believing an apple is an orange aint gonna change an apple into an orange.





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The_Mandalorian316
Mon Dec 06, 2004 11:23 pm
#65

What dont you understand? I take into knowledge the EU, you may or may not. Do you realize this is why we have wars in the middle-east? For the same reasons like these.

Ive accepted one thing, you've accepted another and i respect you.


For the record, i take back EVERYTHING i'veEVER said in the Canon and Non-Canon debates i've ever participated in and i replace it with this simple sentence:


I believe Boba Fett is alive because i am a Star Wars fan that believes the EU is a factual part of the fictional universe, and this is all in MY opinion.


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