Teras Kasi Archive
Thread: The fall of the teras kasi....
AuleyDavyds
Thu Jul 29, 2004 10:37 am
#40
I don't think this will happen, and for one reason only: We've been there before. I'll assume the devs realize that just reversing things will not help any, and I don't think we'll be there.
As for your comments, GADzilla, I think you need to realize thata TKM should be able to own almost anything once it gets within range. It's a ranged professions' job to keep melee professions away or kill them before they get close. Because, regardless of how well you should your pistol, if a character with a huge power hammer gets near, you should be dead.
Ny-loc
Thu Jul 29, 2004 7:02 pm
#41
Do you have a reason for quoting yourself several times? Its kind of hard to answer your question, seeing as the Revamp is a long long long way away.
181stWC
Thu Jul 29, 2004 7:20 pm
#42
If you like melee so much go play everquest, if not, suck it up and stop bitching, adapt or die.
Atama
Thu Jul 29, 2004 11:08 pm
#43
"What stops from TKM/Rifleman being the ultimate build"
Well for one, defenses aren't so great. Also you completely lack healing skills and you have to beg entertainers and docs for buffs. You also won't do much damage in certain PvE situations, like the Corellian Corvette where energy/kinetic damage is so highly resisted. You're also at the mercy of a CM with no way to heal poison or disease.
There is no "ultimate build" because nobody has enough skill points to master everything.
MagicalHAt
Thu Jul 29, 2004 11:38 pm
#44
Atama wrote:
"What stops from TKM/Rifleman being the ultimate build"
Well for one, defenses aren't so great.Defense stacking is being nerfed.Also you completely lack healing skills
There is enough formedic 4440 or 4240 scout 1000and you have to beg entertainers yesand docs for buffsyes. You also won't do much damage in certain PvE situations, like the Corellian Corvette where energy/kinetic damage is so highly resisted.You can tank with tkm.You're also at the mercy of a CM Or anybh with torso or commando when you get burned but poision disease are getting heavily nerfed with no way to heal poison or disease.
There is no "ultimate build" because nobody has enough skill points to master everything.
The rifleman proffession is by far over powerd in pvp.
Rifleman should not be able to kite (Higher accuracy penaltys for moving?)and they should not be a highly accurate 50 cal (spd cap what?)
Message Edited by MagicalHAt on 07-30-2004 02:40 AM
KeevJaseri
Thu Jul 29, 2004 11:46 pm
#45
GADzilla wrote:
MagicalHAt wrote:I fear the days of ranged combatants stacking templates to maximize abilitys will returnMaster pistoleers with smug 0040 and bh 0040 I fear will rain supreme in pvp.Or Carbineers with bh 0400....I think pistols is to easy to stack and will once again become the basis for everyone in the game....And that is as it SHOUD be. This is STAR WARS, not Jackie Chan Adventures.I for one regret that my MBH/M-Pistols main character is all but useless in the current version of the game. It's rediculous how melee is so prevalent. Now I do believe that Melee professions have a part in this galaxy, but they should be equal if not lesser than the ranged weapon professions.So bring on the combat revamp. Make Star Wars the way it should be! I do not remember Han Solo beating upStormtroopers with a stun baton. Never oncedid Greedo jump up and pull out a sword. I don't recallstormtroopers using kung-fu on Ewoks in the battle of Endor.If you want todo all thatcr@p, goplay Everquest.
I have to /agree with this assesment. I am a dedicated TK and will never drop the class....but this is Star Wars, melee' profs should fall in as secondary combat profs behind ANY class that uses a blaster, rifle, rocket launcher etc.
MagicalHAt
Thu Jul 29, 2004 11:56 pm
#46
KeevJaseri wrote:
GADzilla wrote:
MagicalHAt wrote:
I fear the days of ranged combatants stacking templates to maximize abilitys will return
Master pistoleers with smug 0040 and bh 0040 I fear will rain supreme in pvp.
Or Carbineers with bh 0400....
I think pistols is to easy to stack and will once again become the basis for everyone in the game....
And that is as it SHOUD be. This is STAR WARS, not Jackie Chan Adventures.
I for one regret that my MBH/M-Pistols main character is all but useless in the current version of the game. It's rediculous how melee is so prevalent. Now I do believe that Melee professions have a part in this galaxy, but they should be equal if not lesser than the ranged weapon professions.
So bring on the combat revamp. Make Star Wars the way it should be! I do not remember Han Solo beating upStormtroopers with a stun baton. Never oncedid Greedo jump up and pull out a sword. I don't recallstormtroopers using kung-fu on Ewoks in the battle of Endor.
If you want todo all thatcr@p, goplay Everquest.
I have to /agree with this assesment. I am a dedicated TK and will never drop the class....but this is Star Wars, melee' profs should fall in as secondary combat profs behind ANY class that uses a blaster, rifle, rocket launcher etc.
NO thats your opinion If you knew what STAR WARS really was about it was based entirely upon jedi and Star fighters.....
This starwars is ranged is just bull **edit**....
Storm troopers were not programed for meele combat
Royal guards were...
Ever play KOTOR? Theres plent of meele classes in there...
Even still today meele combat exist....
Every soldier every cop etc etc are taugh basic hand to hand combat skills
Special forces and marines can kill people with there thumb...
To say that none of this existed in the starwars univerese a universe much fartherin technologythan ours is complete BS
Personal shield generators were used to deflect blaster shots maybe meele could see some of those???
If they wanted this to be a game were meele were secondary why create 4 Elite meele proffessions
And only 3 ranged proffessions 2 are hybrids but one drawls from unarmed combat and one draws from scout.
MagicalHAt
Fri Jul 30, 2004 12:47 am
#47
MagicalHAt wrote:
MagicalHAt wrote:
"What stops from TKM/Rifleman being the ultimate build"
MagicalHAt
Fri Jul 30, 2004 8:11 am
#48
Atama I pray to god your right as you are the only one on my side in this thread.
What I meant with the poision disease nerfs is that DOCS get innocs now and area cures..
A cm with a 148 potency poision only lands on a player 6/20 throws if that player has an innoc
I also agree That there not nerfing defense stacking after carefully reading Thunderhearts post the only defense stacking he mentions nerfing are
???/FORCE SENSITIVE
MagicalHAt
Fri Jul 30, 2004 9:26 am
#49
"You can tank with tkm.
You can't kill anything by tanking it. All that being a tank means is taking damage. If you can't kill what you're fighting, you will eventually die.
Ya but If I cant kill it Im not going to fight It alone....
I love being a tank I love that nothing can really hurt me to bad sure its fun to see big damage numbers flash across the screen....
But nothing gives me greater joy than dieing for another person or playing hero.
Hrodric
Fri Jul 30, 2004 9:40 am
#50
Good to hear they want to spend some time to really think combat changes through. It is better to wait for something done well, than frequent updates that make things worse. As a member of corporate America, I understand their position. So much to do; so little time.
Peace.
MagicalHAt
Fri Jul 30, 2004 9:47 am
#51
Hrodric wrote:
Good to hear they want to spend some time to really think combat changes through. It is better to wait for something done well, than frequent updates that make things worse. As a member of corporate America, I understand their position. So much to do; so little time.
Peace.
Ah That I do agree with but I do believe they could sacrifice one member of there 70 working on JTLS to really get down and dirty with the community...
Even just a once a week chat would make many of us happy.
Atama
Fri Jul 30, 2004 10:52 am
#52
"But nothing gives me greater joy than dieing for another person or playing hero."
Yes tanking is fun, I have fond memories of protecting people in the squill cave back in the day.
