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WHOA YOUR SAYING A TKM CAN INSTA-KILL!!?!!

rofl i cant believe this post for that very statement. unless he had some sort ofuber vk (250+ damage) then there is no way he could one hit kill someone in composite armor. i have been a tkm for several months now and i have never one hit killed anyone except for an entainer who had about 400 max health. after he knocked you down he probably went unarmed hit 3 on your @$$ and that was the end of you. oh and while the first animation of the unarmed hit 3 is still playing you are actualy getting hit with other attacks. the animation for it is so long you wont see the other attacks unless you look on the combat window. so much for your arguement of a insta-kills...

Get off our forum and go cry to someone else. you got owned by a supieror player.

Steiner

Freth, even as a master rifleman, PvP combat is very fast. 5 secs is about how long a duel lasts. Truth is, CH pets arent a PvP option anymore. But they are still a great PvE support.

You also have to look at the way the original poster presented his statement and i quote:

"Will someone please take that stupid crap OUT OF THE GAME ALREADY! I AM SOOOOOOOOOO SICK of TKMs"

If i took the word TKM above and replaced it with any class in their respective forums, i believe the post would also get 1 starred and charred.

I also dont see how you see that tkm's always win. If you go to the other melee forums, you will see that they too can deal out quite a payload with the exception of pikemen that need an accuracy boost. There are fencers that will state that its a 50/50 chance between winning and loosing. Swordsmen in cobination with master brawler can also do kd and dizzy, bleed the target and wreck havoc. Im not saying these guys are overpowered, but what im saying is that in the hands of a skilled player, any melee class can be deadly. What all melee classes fall short on however is against ranged players. they simply dont stand a chance unless in their template they ahve something to counter that. If they are pure melee, they will be kited to no end.

I dont mind having our hit range decreased at all, you can even make it 1m(TKA)-8m(pikemen) but at least allow melees to hit while running. Im sure you will agree that in real life, i dont have to stand still to punch or kicksomeone. however, the game doesnt support that. the devs have already stated long ago and that is why this hit ranged was introduced.

There are many arguments that can be made on the stance of whats fair, whats logic, whats realistic and ultimately whats in line with the SW universe. Unfortunately we cant have everything. KD has been changed a few times as it is, perhaps dizzy requires a timer or needs to work like how it currently works on npcs, where they have a chance to get up after attempting it a few times.

Sure i hope everything gets panned out in the bix combat fix, kd no kd, dizzy or not, im in this class because its alot more fun then shooting from afar and for the record, spam ua3 with VKs = dead tkm. Even more so without buffs.

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For a start TK is not this.

And if your that fed up with it then work harder and find a way to beat the TKAs as it is not impossible.

Creating a flame on here will not stop the TKAs killing you either will it?

Anyway seeing as you were trying to kill rebels you deserve to be cut down and beat the living hell out of After all you are fighting in the GCW... you can't expect the opposition to just strole by and watch you kill his allies... That would be plain stupid.

And finally: "If you can't beat them, join them" - You never know, you might like it.

/passing of info

If you don't want to get killed by a TKM, don't do faction missions.

If you want to beat a TKM, either get better, or kite the fist-slinging crazyman until he gives up, or you kill him.

Staying out of melee range (15m) is highly recommended, and if he's running toward you, you should be moving.

I have an MBH, and an alt who's a TKA. I'm learning how to deal with them, just by leveling my alt. Even with buffs, a TKM won't chase you if you can outrun him, or mind shot him dead. Don't bother with DOT's, because he'll just meditate most of them off. I get killed by a TK about 5 times a night. Go kill chefs, feels much better.

Let's break this down shall we?

1. You score very high points for being uninformed and uncreative. Being uninformed is a pre-requisite for a good flame/nerf/whine rant. Good job!

2. You did a pretty good job with bad punctuation but your spelling was too good. You score mid range in that category. Next time though add more l337 speak and more bad spelling. Also I liked the fact that you would use actualnumbers instead of words (1 insted of one)

3. You made good use of caps but and I especially liked the GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR at the end. You score high marks in this category.

4. You score very low for lack of italics and bold. To be more effective as a ranter you need to bold more things.

5. You do score good points for the most important category. Your thread is totally useless and a waste of board space so you score a perfect markin that regard.

Finaly tally is 7 out of a possible 10. Overall a pretty good whine it just needs a little polishing.

Keep up the good work!

Good one a

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/applaud

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Oh man atimes you are good man

there is nothing worse then a nerf crier

well wait yes there is

a uneducated nerf crier LOL

Freth... you were a ch and have yet to understand just how enrageing a troller can be? Were you around the Ch boards much went the nerf herders called it home? have you read the topics on this board, a few pages deep? If you do, you'll relize our frustration, and maybe be a little more understanding yourself...

did we come of kind of hard on this guy? yeah... maybe we did.... but it's bound to happen after a few weeks of having to fish through the "OH GOD NERF TKA" trolling crap we've been getting... to try and find constritive posts about our profression...

besides... think... why post something like this post in OUR board... you'd think he'd take it to his fellow riflemen... but no, he came here to start a flame war....

Me thinks your also being alittle quick to judge my friend... but no worries... belive me, i'm guilty of that as well... no one perfect.

KingSnake

as for my spelling, yeah, it's bad. it's a learn disorder i have... had it my whole life... (remedieal reading and english class all through school... was pretty good at math and scince though... go figure...)i do kind of come off stupid andilleliereit don't I? Well, what can you do?

part of me finds it irrionic that you speak the golden rule in one line, and brake it in the next.... not that you've offended me... you havent, i'm relaged to my poor spelling and grammer... i've made my pic with that long ago... but consider this a helpful reminder... that to treat other the way you want to be treated also includes people you don't like... or else it's hyprosicy. think about it.

KingSnake....(maybe i have been a tad moody lately... hmm... and have forgetten that rule myself... much as I hate to admit it your prolly right.... ok...)

I appoligize to what's his face... the orinagionl poster... i was harsh and unsympithitic... I still don't aggree with what he said, but i was a tad nasty with him, and that was wrong of me... as for how the tkm profression goes in the future... at this point i really honestlydon't care... well just have to wait and see.... i've been nerf into oblivien before...(master ch twice over... two different servers...) so prehaps i'm a bet touchy... again, not really a good excuse...

again. sorry kid. And thanks Ferth, sometimes we need reminders as to how we should act...

KingSnake.

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Freth wrote:

Here comes my CH viewpoint...

It's a mixed back I suppose. I do think the TK profession is full of uber wannabe powermongers that flock to the beefiest profession they can find. Hopefully, with the changes will level the playing field for all fighting professions (including CH) and allow for strategy to win the fight, not overpowered fighters. While we're on the discussion of overpowered, I consider buffs cheesy. Same for the TK boost. I've never used buffs and I never will. If my wookiee CH can't make the grade on his own, without cheap temporary buffs, then he won't make it... because buffs are just another way to take advantage of a weaker player. Sure, the weaker player could get buffs and even the playing field a bit, but why should a person be forced to get buffs to compete? That's just a whole other discussion and a personal gripe of mine.

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Gotta disagree with you here, buddy. When another class can have a 10k HAM 400-500dmg, 2.0 speed, plus poison/disease or whatnot attack, that's when you can compare the two. I used to be a MCH and in PvE, we rocked. We kicked butt cuz we could send in our naturally buffed creature and sit back and just shoot our target to death. And that's how the profession functions.

However, in PvP, your 10k HAM 400-500 dmg, 2.0 speed plus poison/disease or whatnot attack creature doesn't get a PvP reduction. So, to even the playing field against a CH, other classes get buffs. And that could include the CH, which means we now hae a 10k HAM etc. creature AND a 2k HAM gunfighting-type chasing our asses. How is NOT having a buff supposed to be fair? And how is having a buff supposed to be "cheesy" given this scenario?

CH's are cool, but they have to realize that a lot of their strength comes from having their buddies having 4-5x the HAM of any player. Thus, comparing CH's to a lot of other classes on a strictly player-to-player basis isn't quite right.

KingSnake,

I know a couple people with horrible spelling problems. Myself being one.. What I do is keep a word document on my desktop and when i write something I cut and paste it into the word doc. Then do a spell check.. It takes a couple extra seconds but its worth it. This isn't a flame or anything just a tip that I use.

BTW...

TKA's don't need a nerf. Your are the natural enemy to the TKA and you and your crew weren't paying attention.

Lemme tell you a little story.. Me and some friends were out hunting Krayts. There were 5 of us.. We were busy with the Krayt when an Overt rebel (MBH) came up behind us and owned us all... Several masters where in my group but we just weren't paying attention.. We died! Do you see me on the boards saying Bounty Hunters need to be hit with the NERF bat? Nope because it was our fault we died. 3 in the group were MCH's with Merek BattleLords out. We should have killed him.. But it was our fault we didn't. Oh well take your lumps and keep fighting.

Peace,

Katansu Daru

Scylla