Teras Kasi Archive
Thread: HOW THEY CAN CALL THIS FAIR
ArkMindSpear wrote:
My freind, I don't know how experinced you are, but judging by your post i think it is safe to assume you have never been a pikeman, and I think you should limit yourself to things that you have seen yourself, and don't assume on anyone's perspective.
Nonsense, you just don't know how to PvP. I mastered all the brawler profs and used em in PvP and as a Pikeman I had no problem taking out TKM/Commandos or TKM/Riflemen...
OMG did you know that pikeman has a stun, dizzy, and KD move? and the LVA is med AP? OMG OMG OGM OGM1!!1!!oneelevenone!1
If you can't handle pvp then stay out of the GCW.
ArkMindSpear wrote:
My freind, I don't know how experinced you are, but judging by your post i think it is safe to assume you have never been a pikeman, and I think you should limit yourself to things that you have seen yourself, and don't assume on anyone's perspective.
Nonsense, you just don't know how to PvP. I mastered all the brawler profs and used em in PvP and as a Pikeman I had no problem taking out TKM/Commandos or TKM/Riflemen...
OMG did you know that pikeman has a stun, dizzy, and KD move? and the LVA is med AP? OMG OMG OGM OGM1!!1!!oneelevenone!1
If you can't handle pvp then stay out of the GCW.
I'm gonna say this once.
Medium armor peircing is on one weapon. The Long Vibro Axe. A great damage sliced one is about 150-500 @ 4.4
Mitigation reduces that to.....150-290 @ 4.4 got forbid our enemy should be TKA too. becouse then we get toughness...wich is -57% so....
65-125 @ 4.4
oh..and PvP reduction....-75%
16.25-31.25 @ 4.4
Then our HIT 3 only has a x3 multiplier whereas all other melee has X4....
And if you are wearing armor....guess what....-70%
5-10 @ 4.4
BUT you are correct we have medium armor peircing...
+25% to that
6.25-12.5 @ 4.4
with a X3 damage muliplier....
Oh my got, some one has to stop the pikeman they might break 100 damage....
oh and **edit**....
Pikeman DO have dizzy and knockdown....but genius....pikeman have aposture down in their hit there...ya know...the one that does x3 damage...
so we can dizzy and knock you down...but if we hit you while you are knocked down, you get back up...
so kiss my ass thanks and good bye
Then don't use the move that knocks people back up. I don't know if what you said there is entirely true, but if you learned anything from PvE is that you don't use a move that has the potential of kicking the downed npc up again. If you don't know which move does which then you don't know your profession. Using the "I have to use this move because it does x3 damage" excuse is just that, an excuse.
ArkMindSpear wrote:
ArkMindSpear wrote:
My freind, I don't know how experinced you are, but judging by your post i think it is safe to assume you have never been a pikeman, and I think you should limit yourself to things that you have seen yourself, and don't assume on anyone's perspective.
Nonsense, you just don't know how to PvP. I mastered all the brawler profs and used em in PvP and as a Pikeman I had no problem taking out TKM/Commandos or TKM/Riflemen...
OMG did you know that pikeman has a stun, dizzy, and KD move? and the LVA is med AP? OMG OMG OGM OGM1!!1!!oneelevenone!1
If you can't handle pvp then stay out of the GCW.
I'm gonna say this once.
Medium armor peircing is on one weapon. The Long Vibro Axe. A great damage sliced one is about 150-500 @ 4.4
Mitigation reduces that to.....150-290 @ 4.4 got forbid our enemy should be TKA too. becouse then we get toughness...wich is -57% so....
65-125 @ 4.4
oh..and PvP reduction....-75%
16.25-31.25 @ 4.4
Then our HIT 3 only has a x3 multiplier whereas all other melee has X4....
And if you are wearing armor....guess what....-70%
5-10 @ 4.4
BUT you are correct we have medium armor peircing...
+25% to that
6.25-12.5 @ 4.4
with a X3 damage muliplier....
Oh my got, some one has to stop the pikeman they might break 100 damage....
oh and **edit**....
Pikeman DO have dizzy and knockdown....but genius....pikeman have aposture down in their hit there...ya know...the one that does x3 damage...
so we can dizzy and knock you down...but if we hit you while you are knocked down, you get back up...
so kiss my ass thanks and good bye
If you're having trouble hitting for more than 100 dmg inpvp maybe you should drop the wood staff and pick up a real weapon huh?
Not again Ark, you just won't be happy until TKA is as broken as Pikeman will ya. Just because pikeman isn't working right why cry nerf (oops I mean Balance) why not get your own profession fixed, rather then spending so much time trying to get others broken. Any how mitigation works the same for all classes, so yes on a swordsman mitigation will remove more of their damage then compared to a TKA howeverswordsman have a much higher damageper attackthen a TKA.
Nowjust to go over a few Facts with you here are the TKA Stats for Dizzy, KD, and even posture change
Defense Vs. Dizzy: +5
Defense Vs. Posture Change (Down): +30
Defense Vs. Knockdown: +20
So why is it so hard to knock over a TKA again? I get knocked over all of the time, something I have learned to live with, If I didn't like it I would pick up some more KD defence or get some anti-KD food, you could do the same couldn't you???
When I have faced a Swordsman it has been a pretty even match, those mind bleeds are brutal, as are many of their attacks, add on to that the AR rating on the Hammer and wow they hit the mind hard. Now I will agree that pikemen need some love, so why not push to have them fixed rather then posting "TKA to powerful" every 2 seconds on our forums?
Hacane wrote:
Anything that nerfs the TKM and especially the TKM/Stackers, who are the worst,is a good thing in my opinion. Sorry but it's aoparent your proffesion is rediculously overpowered. Infact i gotta get a sig so i can put this in it and save me typing it out all the time, ur profs solos Jedi Knights when they are wearing this 80percent compositeand Enraged Rancors with ease. I have to say i find that completely rediculous, what did you do, punch the rancor to death ??
Also if you had to work hard and long for TKA i'd argue you didnt do it right. TKA is a relativly easy proffesion to master from what i understand from several of my friends who are TKA, i my self can vouch that the brawler part of it can be done in 2 days as i have done it my self. I feel sorry for those BH's and Jedi who have put an awfull lot of effort into getting their proffesions,, especially jedi, and have discovered they really aren't what they promised, nor were they worth the effort.
I'd argue that just about all the professions are easy if you do it right. As far as feeling sorry for bounty hunters? Not on your life, my girlfriend is a bounty hunter and all but the investigation is easy as pie and investigations not that bad at all. Then add BH gets KD/Dizzy from a range, plus a nice little flame dot pfft.
ArkMindSpear wrote:
**edit**!?!
You are all fricking insane!!!
YOU OUT DAMAGE SWORDSMAN BY FARRRRRRRRRRR!!!!
HELLO!?!
Your damage per hit is more than a swordsman!!! But you swing 3x faster!?!
That makes your damage out put over 3x that of a swordsman!!! The class with no defenses, cool power, speed, or accuracy!!!
THATS A **edit**ING FACT!
what don't you understand!?!
On top of that you have the BEST defenses!!!
AND meditate!!!
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU!?!
You are saying taht INSTEAD of reducing YOUR power, they should bump up EVERY OTHER proffesion in the game!?! just so you'r damage output won't get reduced!?!
**edit**!!!!!!!
Seriously how can you justify that?
It is TOO MUCH.
The ONLY thing out of ALL of melee that you don't have is stun damage, and you **edit** about that!!!
Do you know how much damage a swordsman would have to be able to do to justify their class compared to tkas?
Wiyth knucklers on your damage is about 300-450 @ 1.0...your new weapon gives you MORE damage(oh my god i know!!!)
350-500 @ 1.0
At teh speed they are now thier base damage would have to be about700-1200 @ 5.0. would you LIKE THAT!?!
And that is just so that they can catch up with you!?! Not out damage you.
Why don't you take one for the god forsaken team?
This isn't TKA:Galaxies.