Teras Kasi Archive
Thread: TKA vs Pikeman
Maharaja, I really wish you would stop saying TKA is supposed to be the tank. ALL melee are supposed to be tanks in one way or another! TKA is not getting more defenses, only fixes to CoB and defensive acuity. TKA already has superior defenses overall, TKA should not get even more. You say this with nearly every single post I see from you, I just wish you would stop saying it. ALL melee are tanks, not just TKA.
Before, it was difficult enough to defeat a TKM as a pikeman, even a master brawler/master pike. The only real hope was in getting warcry to land first. Now, with mitigation, due to the spread our weapons have in the min-max damage range, it's even worse. Once TK get defensive acuity and CoB working properly, it will be back to the old status quo: Basically Hopeless.
antares
master pikeman
Maharaja, I really wish you would stop saying TKA is supposed to be the tank. ALL melee are supposed to be tanks in one way or another! TKA is not getting more defenses, only fixes to CoB and defensive acuity. TKA already has superior defenses overall, TKA should not get even more. You say this with nearly every single post I see from you, I just wish you would stop saying it. ALL melee are tanks, not just TKA.
Before, it was difficult enough to defeat a TKM as a pikeman, even a master brawler/master pike. The only real hope was in getting warcry to land first. Now, with mitigation, due to the spread our weapons have in the min-max damage range, it's even worse. Once TK get defensive acuity and CoB working properly, it will be back to the old status quo: Basically Hopeless.
I am sorry that you are annoyed but
The developers have stated that TKA were supposed to be player tanks
The developers have stated that TKA will be the player tanks
The developers have stated that they are being made the player tanks.
So it is not my repetitive posts, but how it was all intended to be. As for defenses,the additional defense comes into play withpart 4 of the full modification to combat, and that's what I meant.As for them having good defenses, they are supposed to be like that and the developers have explained why. And no, unlike you said, all melee are not supposed to be player tanks, but if you know how to play right using the right tactics, you can.
Once again I wish to say that *very good* TKMs get killed quite a lot by fencors, heavy swordsmen, and even some skilled pikemen. I have seen it a lot.
So it is not hopeless for anyone, but anyone with the right build and tactic can beat anyone if he/she knows how to play well, and with the right tactics.
I could try, but I will never find them because they have never said such a thing. Why did ALL melee get CoB? Why do fencers have more melee/ranged defenses than TKA now? TKA is one of 4 melee classes, all of which have their roles as a tank. Some will be better at taking more raw damage, others at evading/blocking, but all are tanks. The developers have never stated that TKA are the only tanks, nor that they will be built up even more so that they are the only tanks.
antares
master pikeman
No. TKA have been the only melee class close to a player tank for a long time. Now fencer is up there alongside TKA. The others will be brought up in their own specialties, not TKA raised even more. TKA is a player tank, not the player tank. The devs should fix CoB, but making TKA even better than they are now in comparison to the other melee classes is right out- they have not "clearly stated" that was their intent.
antares
master pikeman
Yes they are focusing on making TKA better tanks and that fact is "clearly stated". It, along with the disadvantages, bugs and certain broken features are listed in the sticky thread.
You do know that all melee classes got CoB, right?
antares
master pikeman
I know that indeed. That is exactly why I mentioned a lot of times before on how fencors defeat TKA easily. I am not sure if the Pikemen who defeated TKAs used it or not however. Still, the COB and other problems are getting fixed to make the TKA better tanks than they already are, as intended.
So if CoB was added to make TKA better tanks, it was added to make fencers better what? to make swordsmen better what? to make pikemen better what? TKAs CoB is simply broken, they're not fixing it so that TKA will have a lead on the others, it should have worked from the beginning, fixing it does not meant hat the devs have some intention on making TKA the end-all player tank and forcing the other melee classes to pick up more professions simply to compete with them.
You give me a headache. I'm going to sleep.
antares
master pikeman
So if CoB was added to make TKA better tanks, it was added to make fencers better what? to make swordsmen better what? to make pikemen better what? TKAs CoB is simply broken, they're not fixing it so that TKA will have a lead on the others, it should have worked from the beginning, fixing it does not meant hat the devs have some intention on making TKA the end-all player tank and forcing the other melee classes to pick up more professions simply to compete with them.
You give me a headache. I'm going to sleep.
I understand your disappointment but facts are facts. Currently TKA can do well, but not as intented to be because if you browed the forums and the above thread, you would know of other broken skills and severl disadvantages. They are fixing it not to make TKA to be "better" than anyone but better as "intended". Once again, they have stated before, about TKA being supposed to be good player tanks. Putting words in my mouth or twisting things around don't change anything. It was meant to be, and by fixing COB and the other broken skills TKA would become what was meant to be. There is a reason why several skill points are left. By making good builds anyone could do anything and I have said this a lot before. Once again, they have stated this before clearly. If you can't find it or missed it, it's your problem not anyone else's. No one is just a TKA and noone is just one of the melee professions. Players are supposed to be intelligent to make use of the skill points wisely for the role that they want to be. The dev's intention was already stated, and only now it's being implemented well. Some people may not like it, but facts are facts. Thank you.
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