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Thread: TKA vs Pikeman
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antares_Kauri
Thu Dec 18, 2003 7:52 am
#40
I know of TKA's disadvantages. TKA are supposed to be good player tanks, but so are all melee classes. Your facts are not facts. TKA spends the same amount of skill points as each of the other elite brawlers. If the devs intend anything, it's making the field more even, rather than making TKA even more superior.
If you haven't already, drop TKA and master pikeman alone and then come back here and tell me again what you think. Yes, everyone should diversify and improve by getting skills from other classes, that's the way the game is made, but it should not be such that one class (TKA) doesn't have to, while another (pikeman) has to just to compete when they both spend the same skill points.
antares
master pikeman
If you haven't already, drop TKA and master pikeman alone and then come back here and tell me again what you think. Yes, everyone should diversify and improve by getting skills from other classes, that's the way the game is made, but it should not be such that one class (TKA) doesn't have to, while another (pikeman) has to just to compete when they both spend the same skill points.
antares
master pikeman
Maharaja
Thu Dec 18, 2003 10:30 am
#41
You misunderstood. I am all in for a pikeman overhaul and it needs to be done. TKA are supposed to be a balancing form between damage dealers and damage takers, and still be a good tank. Yes other melee can be good tanks as well according to how they use their skill points, the same way if one is a TKM alone he won't be a better tank than the other melee classes who have used the sp wisely. Since the devs did not state that all melee professions are supposed to be good tanks, and stated that TKA would be the new player tanks, and lately that they are working upon making TKA better tanks by fixing the problems, it is quite clear from that. Other professions have their uses (fencors kill TKM easily so does heavy swordmen), but TKA has its own purpose as they made it clear. The Pikemen or other melee professions have nothing to do with it, because already it is easy to deafeat a TMK for them if the right tactics are used. The pikemen have to be, and will be fixed but are not supposed to as good for "tanking" as TKA, because there is evidence on the dev's statements and intent. Still those melee classes have their advantages which a TKA doesn't have, and could do more than just stand their own against the TKA>
antares_Kauri
Thu Dec 18, 2003 10:40 am
#42
You're closer, but, no, not according to how they use their skill points. Other melee classes should not have to spend more skill points just to be as effective overall as TKA. And, for the love of God...the devs have not stated that TKA were specifically going to be the best tank. That bullet you keep pointing out in the State of the Profession post was not written by a dev, but by the correpondent. The Fencer correpsondent could have posted exactly the same thing and it would have been just as true. CoB was added to all melee classes because the devs want all melee classes to be better tanks.
The evidence you keep pointing out points to the fact that the devs want ALL melee to be better, not JUST TKA.
The only 'right tactic' a master pikeman-only has against a TKM-only in a duel is to get warcry to land first, and that's not even a pikeman special.
antares
master pikeman
The evidence you keep pointing out points to the fact that the devs want ALL melee to be better, not JUST TKA.
The only 'right tactic' a master pikeman-only has against a TKM-only in a duel is to get warcry to land first, and that's not even a pikeman special.
antares
master pikeman
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