Teras Kasi Archive
Thread: TK Robes?
Mankind00
Mon Apr 04, 2005 12:26 am
#27
It's really something we should wait till after the CU goes live to look at. There would be issues about any robe as most people would want them to supply a bonus of somekind, however alot of people would then feel forced in to wearing something they might not like.
It's something I plan on bringing up a bit after the CU though.
It's something I plan on bringing up a bit after the CU though.
Ryecrash
Mon Apr 04, 2005 12:34 am
#28
After?
Seriously?
I thought that the point of the TC was to make everything work BEFORE it hits Live. So are we supposed to just be a lesser creature until someone gets around to it?
Since we don't get armor, or robes, or anything but Hawtpants, are we just supposed to get used to taking a beating?
Seriously?
I thought that the point of the TC was to make everything work BEFORE it hits Live. So are we supposed to just be a lesser creature until someone gets around to it?
Since we don't get armor, or robes, or anything but Hawtpants, are we just supposed to get used to taking a beating?
Mankind00
Mon Apr 04, 2005 12:50 am
#29
Ryecrash wrote:
After?
Seriously?
I thought that the point of the TC was to make everything work BEFORE it hits Live. So are we supposed to just be a lesser creature until someone gets around to it?
Since we don't get armor, or robes, or anything but Hawtpants, are we just supposed to get used to taking a beating?
Robes are a request for extra content though, the point is we should be in balance without them, they arn't to do with the CU.
The deffences we do get as a TKA though should stop our need for armour, it's just something to wait till higher level testing to see.
FourthNail
Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:17 am
#30
First off, I'm a Ranger and not a TK, nor even a brawler. But I have always figured that robes and TK's kinda go hand in hand. Heck, go over to the Ranger boards sometime and look up the Ranger Hat threads 
We want something that will distinguish our profession as much as anyone else does and NO, we do not want camoflaged item-who's-name-I-will-not-mention.
Plunk
We want something that will distinguish our profession as much as anyone else does and NO, we do not want camoflaged item-who's-name-I-will-not-mention.
Plunk
Cango
Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:55 am
#31
FourthNail wrote:
First off, I'm a Ranger and not a TK, nor even a brawler. But I have always figured that robes and TK's kinda go hand in hand. Heck, go over to the Ranger boards sometime and look up the Ranger Hat threads
We want something that will distinguish our profession as much as anyone else does and NO, we do not want camoflaged item-who's-name-I-will-not-mention.
Plunk
Thats the problem, they DONT go hand in hand. People keep thinking TKA are shaolin monks, they arent. They are fighters.
Nerz
Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:34 am
#32
Well i think that Teras Kasi would be more like phow ji in medstar one,if steve perry(creator of teras kasi in Star wars eu) had written more books about them(cause of the matador novels).
I dont think we can say teras kasi have nothing to do with robes and monks
reasons:
phow ji would not wear any teras kasi outfit in medstar 1because he was a military instructor and a soldier.
We dont know the clothing of Zan and Zu Pike+i gues they were not part of the followers of palawa
EU quotes(from starwars roleplay game:heroes guide,+edi sourcebookand from Star Wars Encyclopedia ):
Both a martial art and an Order. The Teräs Käsi were formed from the remnant civilians of a long-ago battle which devastated their home world of Palawa, a war which involved the awesome powers of the Jedi Council. The few survivors of Palawa migrated to a nearby world called Bunduki, where they decided to master mind over body so they may keep the Jedi use of power in check. The Teräs Käsi are thought to be sensitive to changes in the Force, and Teräs Käsi Masters are feared by the Jedi. But Teräs Käsi are not generally Force users as Jedi are: Teräs Käsi draw internal, personal power, while Jedi draw from everything around them
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The martial arts form known as Teräs Käsi is an extremly rare ancient art. The form's origins are found on the world Bunduki in the Pacanth Reach, populatet by a near-Human species known as the Epicanthix. The Followers of Palawa are a secretive sect of hermites that guard the teachings of Teräs Käsi.
It is unknown wheter or not the Followers created the martial arts style, but nearly all Teräs Käsi masters learned the style by journeying to Bunduki to learn form these keepers. The name Teräs Käsi acutally means "steel hands," referring to the damage and thougness of the martial artist's unarmed attacks. The style focuses on power and strength, including varying levels of damage depending on the force that is appled to the attacks. The style is unique, and masters are few and far between
It is unknown wheter or not the Followers created the martial arts style, but nearly all Teräs Käsi masters learned the style by journeying to Bunduki to learn form these keepers. The name Teräs Käsi acutally means "steel hands," referring to the damage and thougness of the martial artist's unarmed attacks. The style focuses on power and strength, including varying levels of damage depending on the force that is appled to the attacks. The style is unique, and masters are few and far between
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The martial arts form known as teräs käsi(roughly translated as "steel hands") orginated in a remote star cluster in the Outer Rim called Pacanth Reach. Many who have learned the secrets of Teräs Käs have brought the knowledge to other corners of the galaxy. Practioners of Teräs Käsi also studty history, philosophy and metaphysics.
The martial arts movements of Teräs Käsi are based on the hunting characterisitcs of various beasts througout the galaxy and are given names such as Charging Wampa, Rancor Rising, Riding Bantha or Dancing Dragonsnake
The martial arts movements of Teräs Käsi are based on the hunting characterisitcs of various beasts througout the galaxy and are given names such as Charging Wampa, Rancor Rising, Riding Bantha or Dancing Dragonsnake
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While saying this,i dont like the idea of robes to much.. they should at least be full customizeable and just give minor advantages( if any).
Message Edited by Nerz on 04-04-2005 09:35 AM
Oberon_Ra
Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:47 am
#33
If TKM defense really stacks up to be just as good as saber block is now for Jedi. To the point where we don't need armor. Then that really frees us up to make our characters look how we want.
Maybe Jedi will look more forward to fighting unarmored TKM / MBHs. Assuming we can still fight anything at all?
So we can look nice and get wasted doing it.
Cango
Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:03 am
#34
Nerz wrote:):Both a martial art and an Order. The Teräs Käsi were formed from the remnant civilians of a long-ago battle which devastated their home world of Palawa, a war which involved the awesome powers of the Jedi Council. The few survivors of Palawa migrated to a nearby world called Bunduki, where they decided to master mind over body so they may keep the Jedi use of power in check. The Teräs Käsi are thought to be sensitive to changes in the Force, and Teräs Käsi Masters are feared by the Jedi. But Teräs Käsi are not generally Force users as Jedi are: Teräs Käsi draw internal, personal power, while Jedi draw from everything around them--
I want to know your exact source on that
CUSWE? If so, whats their source.
Was it in one of the WoTC RPG books? the d6 books? I want a specific cite.
Phow Ji is about as much of a master as you can get. He won the tournament on Bunduki, and is a member of the Followers of Palawa.
Even Padawan ofee didnt fear him.
That part right there sounds a LOT like the fan fiction RPG rules some guys made up, that is confusing a LOT of TKAs in this game as to what is EU and what snot.
Arajl
Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:09 am
#35
Cango wrote:
what snot.
hah snot.
All kidding aside, TKs do NOT go hand in hand with robes. Like a previous poster said, the fan fiction of TKs are confusing many people as to what we really are.
starcrusher04
Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:26 am
#36
i can hunt almost anything besides the highest lvl mobs without armor now. i think with the defense bonuses in teh cu we will be fine.
Mankind00
Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:27 am
#37
Cango wrote:
Nerz wrote:):Both a martial art and an Order. The Teräs Käsi were formed from the remnant civilians of a long-ago battle which devastated their home world of Palawa, a war which involved the awesome powers of the Jedi Council. The few survivors of Palawa migrated to a nearby world called Bunduki, where they decided to master mind over body so they may keep the Jedi use of power in check. The Teräs Käsi are thought to be sensitive to changes in the Force, and Teräs Käsi Masters are feared by the Jedi. But Teräs Käsi are not generally Force users as Jedi are: Teräs Käsi draw internal, personal power, while Jedi draw from everything around them--
I want to know your exact source on that
CUSWE? If so, whats their source.
Was it in one of the WoTC RPG books? the d6 books? I want a specific cite.
Phow Ji is about as much of a master as you can get. He won the tournament on Bunduki, and is a member of the Followers of Palawa.
Even Padawan ofee didnt fear him.
That part right there sounds a LOT like the fan fiction RPG rules some guys made up, that is confusing a LOT of TKAs in this game as to what is EU and what snot.
The stuff you have quoted is deffinatly fan fiction, just incredibly well spread fan fiction.
But as far as the comments 'TKA's go hand in hand with robes' & the comment that they don't. At the end of the day it is down to your perception of them, not enough is known for sure about whether or not they were worn by some TKA. As they are very much based on real life martial arts it's very very possible they do go hand in hand, however it's not deffinate.
But at the end of the day there isn't enough either way to know what they wore & what they didn't, one thing about all fiction is it's often that the most unique versions of a group are those that turn up in books & films, those that don't always follow tradition etc. To say "they didn't as XXX didn't" is jumping to conclusions even more so then those who believe they probably did wear some type of robe as they at least have alot of real life facts suporting them about how it does limit hinderence etc.
But once again I will stress we don't know for sure either way, however it's something I want to follow up & get a general opinion on what the community think, should a very large majority feel it would be a good thing to add I will push for something, but I dislike the idea of been pushed in to wearing something set as well, & so anything I will push for probably will not be something that make us the new comp clones.
Cango
Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:45 am
#38
Mankind, I think we are finally seeing on equal ground.
I would love to see TKA, and every other profession, to get some great and fabulous item for their profession alone. My only worry is to keep it as something that wont pigeon hole the profession as something they arent.
I would love to see TKA, and every other profession, to get some great and fabulous item for their profession alone. My only worry is to keep it as something that wont pigeon hole the profession as something they arent.
Nerz
Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:48 am
#39
fanfiction?wow it was even used on this forum by ryutek as official history.
Anyway the othere quotes are from books(which i own myself)and i got something else from theforce.net :
Followers of Palawa
Category: Religious
Planet of Origin: Bunduki
Category: Religious
Planet of Origin: Bunduki
this group of hermits were highly revered on their homeworld of Bunduki. They were also masters of the martial art known as teras kasi.
Shadows of the Empire Sourcebook, by Peter Schweighofer, copyright 1996, from West End Games
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note the category(religious),hermits also reminds me on monks in some way
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Kashi Mer
Category: Alien Races
Planet of Origin: Kashi (Kashi Mer)
an extinct culture that reached its height sometime before the formation of the Old Republic. Their civilization was based on the tenets of the Followers of Palawa, and many Kashi Mer had some control over The Force. They also practiced the martial art of teras kasi, refining it over the years into an almost religious form of combat. Through the use of teras kasi, many Kashi Mer were turned toward the Dark Side of the Force, leading up to the events of the First Great Schism. The Kashi Mer culture was wiped out when the primary star supporting the planet Kashi went supernova and destroyed the entire system.
Star Wars Adventure Journal, Number 6, by Peter Schweighofer (Ed.), copyright May 1995, from West End Games
Star Wars Gamer, Issue 5, by Various, copyright 2001, from Wizards of the Coast
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After all you can say thats not how teras kasi should be in the first place,cause this doesen't fit well to the "steve perry teras kasi"