Teras Kasi Archive
Thread: VK's are bugged an always have been but devs are afriad to touch it
Skedoozy
Wed Mar 17, 2004 9:36 pm
#14
pyclone wrote:
The conclusion: the code got messed up and stacks as oposed to overide dmg figures.
No, you are jumping to a conclusion because obviously you were beat in PvP by a TKM and instead of figuring out how to beat him or her you try to figure out why you lost, and why you lost must be because TK is overpowered, it couldnt have been your fault, now could it? No, yer too uber to lose at PvP to anyone so you thought of a way that you could come to the TK board and call everyone here an exploiter in so many words.
It's a game. Get over it. Play harder, cry softer.
pyclone
Wed Mar 17, 2004 10:59 pm
#15
Skedoozy wrote:
pyclone wrote:
The conclusion: the code got messed up and stacks as oposed to overide dmg figures.
No, you are jumping to a conclusion because obviously you were beat in PvP by a TKM and instead of figuring out how to beat him or her you try to figure out why you lost, and why you lost must be because TK is overpowered, it couldnt have been your fault, now could it? No, yer too uber to lose at PvP to anyone so you thought of a way that you could come to the TK board and call everyone here an exploiter in so many words.
It's a game. Get over it. Play harder, cry softer.
translation: "waaaa waaa dont' take away my tka skillz what will i do with out kd/dizzy on the gtef waaa waaa, or what will i do when i can't do 900 dps in pvp waaa waaa"
SkydogHex
Wed Mar 17, 2004 11:55 pm
#16
pyclone wrote:
translation: "waaaa waaa dont' take away my tka skillz what will i do with out kd/dizzy on the gtef waaa waaa, or what will i do when i can't do 900 dps in pvp waaa waaa"
Further Translation: Whaa, I'm a tool. I got killed by a TKA so obviously the developers are stupid and didn't code VK's right. I KNOW this! I'm a mind reader! Look at me go! Whaa my arguement is bunk and they questioned my authority, so now I must call them noobs and fools cause I can't win an argument of facts. Whaa.... (insert further idiotic whining)
Oh and before you bother to post anything else, do us and your argument a favor, learn somee basic sentence structure. You're post reads like my 6 year old wrote it.
pyclone
Thu Mar 18, 2004 12:02 am
#17
SkydogHex wrote:
pyclone wrote:
translation: "waaaa waaa dont' take away my tka skillz what will i do with out kd/dizzy on the gtef waaa waaa, or what will i do when i can't do 900 dps in pvp waaa waaa"
Further Translation: Whaa, I'm a tool. I got killed by a TKA so obviously the developers are stupid and didn't code VK's right. I KNOW this! I'm a mind reader! Look at me go! Whaa my arguement is bunk and they questioned my authority, so now I must call them noobs and fools cause I can't win an argument of facts. Whaa.... (insert further idiotic whining)
Oh and before you bother to post anything else, do us and your argument a favor, learn somee basic sentence structure. You're post reads like my 6 year old wrote it.
still waiting for a reason why i'm wrong other then TKA's obviously desended from the warrrior race of heavan and as a result must have the best fastest and most powerful everything... oh and we are too weak we need stun vk's on the side
flames don't weaken my argument sorry
ToneCapone
Thu Mar 18, 2004 12:04 am
#18
Okay, first lemmie mention that I just picked up TK so I am only 0-1-1-2
Anyways...
VK's are the most powerful weapon???? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? lol
Bud, I have all 4 flamethrower skills for commando and with flamesingle2 I hit for over 12k, aintno VK in the game that could even get close to that, so dont tell me how VK is the most powerful weapon.
Yes it is probably the fastest but guess what? Its an unarmed weapon. You got Commandos hitting for 12k, creature handlers molesting you with rancors and kimogilas, everyone and their mother is toting a gun of some type so I would hope they would give an unarmed character something.
VK's are more speed than they are power. If I punch you in the face, its not going to hurt nearly as bad as if I slam an axe into your grill. Or a sword, poleaxe, whatever
Remeber this always, no matter how uber or badass you think you are, there is always going to be someone else out there that is going to beat you. Just cuz you get your ass handed to you doesn't mean the other person's class is overpowered or unfairly stronger, it just means you gotta drop your narcissism and your thinking that you are God, and come up with some new tricks and skills to beat the guy/gal the next time. As I said, I am new to TK, but I don't yet see how anyone thinks that they are the most powerful and/or damaging class.
novakaine
Thu Mar 18, 2004 12:19 am
#19
Po' widdle Pyclone musta been schooled by a TKA...
First off we only do kinetic damage bub, and we are easy to kite...go troll someone elses board or better yet get a clue ad learn how to use your own profession.
Utess
Thu Mar 18, 2004 12:41 am
#20
Okies, valid arguement: VK's stack onto our damage, but outside of armor piercing, they add very little to our damage without them. Extremely high damage vk's will carry an insane HAM cost thus making them almost unusable(especially once the new ham system takes effect).
Moderate damage ones will, at most, add roughly 500 damage per hit with Unarmed hit 3. So instead of 2k damage, I now do 2500 damage, and thats with my best attack(these are PvE numbers by the way).
Low ham cost vk's will actually add almost no damage to my attacks so outside of AP1 I gain nothing but increased ham costs.
VKs really do not add that much damage at all. I rarely if ever use them in PvE, and those who play PvP, really the only reason they wear them is for the AP1 to get past composite and the like.
You claim we are in denial, but I'm not talking at all about how much damage we deal, I'm saying TKA has to be treated differently because we have innate damage mods where as all other professions simply gain speed and their damage depends on their weapons. We *are* our weapon.
If VKs worked like regular weapons, we'd actually lose our normal base damage when having them equiped, and that makes no logical senseat all based on the way the profession works. If you want us to do less damage, thats a different story and a different post and arguement, but VKs are not bugged, they are operating as intended, as they have to to work properly with the design of this profession.
Jybisu
Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:23 am
#21
I apoligize to the TKA community on behalf of the Kettemor server.
Looks like you came up aganist Ilcoz, the whiner who never stops whining about TKA 
The reason he whines is he can't PvP out of a paper bag.
Don't mind him
chuckynickels
Thu Mar 18, 2004 11:04 am
#22
lol damnit ilcoz, get out of here, leave these people alone
sorry everyone
KiIIgore
Thu Mar 18, 2004 11:33 am
#23
VK = RIGHT HAND ... DAMAGE
BARE KNUCKLE = LEFT HAND ... DAMAGE
1+1=2 .... nuff said
herculewhodaman
Thu Mar 18, 2004 11:51 am
#24
Vk's DO override damge of the base hands.
Base hands are 4 seec speed 10-30 damage
the VK replaces with that stat. The rest is a modifier that would not be replaced, it does not logically make sense in the game to replace a modifier. There are skill tape modifiers that add damage for other profession, TKA just have these modifers built in.
Base hands are 4 seec speed 10-30 damage
the VK replaces with that stat. The rest is a modifier that would not be replaced, it does not logically make sense in the game to replace a modifier. There are skill tape modifiers that add damage for other profession, TKA just have these modifers built in.
KiIIgore
Thu Mar 18, 2004 11:55 am
#25
Oh and to clarify, if we do get 2x damage good, and who cares... a commando hits for 4000+ but his guns rated 1050 max damage ? .... dont post stupid comments on the forums please ...
Ithyalgia
Thu Mar 18, 2004 1:32 pm
#26
pyclone wrote:
Ithyalgia wrote:
Ok so a boxer in real life would do less damage to your skull if he was wearing brass knuckles ? but would easier hit through your helmet ?
You know that's what your saying right ?
The way VK work now is not only the logical way but also in a gaming perspective right way.
And you say there has to be a trade off, of course, have you seen the ham used by a TKA using a VK ?K noob i'll be you "tka is fine no no don't hurt tka no waaa waaa" lolyou fool, i'm saying that he advantage to vk's isnot more dmg its AP1 witch comes with more dmg, so your analgy does not apply.Do you think that they ment for tka to be able to double their dmg potential by equiping VK's? no they didnt'Because they didn't want tka, "unarmed" to have a 250-500 dmg weaopon with is what they have right now with vks', its a power hammer with one sec speed and lower ham.
I phrased my reply very neutral and non-abusive to you and this is how you reply ?
/lol
You have proved with this and the other reply's in this thread that you are a nerf crier troll.
If you want aggression in a post let me show you how that is done.
Oh and BTW Mr. "1337 Tka killer", i can take you anytime, your a rifleman you say... well so am i and i'm tkm also, if your on Radiant name a time and i'll be there to hand you your butt and a paper tissue to cry in after i kick your a$$ so many times your children will be born with bruises.
I'll beat you with and witout my VK, hell i'll even kill you with my E11, i'll bring my doctor friend so he can heal you while you and me duel and i'll still rip you a new and stomp on your face.
I'm going to smack you up for you little **edit** attitude and make such and example out of you that ppl will remember you always as "the person who oppened his mouth and played to strong to the wrong kind of ppl".
I'm gonna send you crying to your mommy, crying so hard for god to nerf reallity, because you can't figure out how you ended up so low on the food chain.
I'm going to rough you up so much, the scars will never heal and from this day on you'll be scared to even figth a kreetle
/aggression of
Now is this the intelligent answer to you ? do we really need more anger ? or could you at least come with some facts about where you get your info ? and maybe we can have a serious discussion between mature ppl ? or is that beyond you ?