Teras Kasi Archive

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Iwifia wrote:
speed > damage any day

if ur faster then ur oponent then u can hit him more times per second thus inflicting more dmg thus being the winnner of the fight

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Horribly untrue. You want less SAC to win against any opponent since it lets you do more specials. It's special moves that win combat...if you need less time to regen, that's more time pummelling. Eventually, you'll win. Damage is the second most important characteristic on a weapon...the higher the damage, the higher the special attack damage will be. Speed is ignored for the most part since any master will have a high enough speed mod to bring weapons down to almost 1.0 or below, making all weapons the same essential speed.

When it comes to the Katarn Knuckles, you want two things: a tier 3 damage slice (good luck looting an illegal core booster...very rare) and a SAC pup to bring the SAC down to at least 60. With a 60 SAC, you can squeeze in a fifth attack for the cost of four without the pup, and that can make a hell of a difference.

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Cango wrote:
Damage doesnt matter.

If you had a weapon that had 2k min 2500 max damage

But a 20 second speed

would you use it?


DPS is what you gotta watch. The Katarn has higher DPS, generally low SAC, and the elemental damage is nice as well.

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dude, go to the pistoleer forums and reference the sticky on dps.... it's pointless. NEVER I repeat NEVER take dps into account when looking at a cl 54 weapon!

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XTvrnal wrote:

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Daikatsu wrote:

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Iwifia wrote:
speed > damage any day

if ur faster then ur oponent then u can hit him more times per second thus inflicting more dmg thus being the winnner of the fight

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Horribly untrue. You want less SAC to win against any opponent since it lets you do more specials. It's special moves that win combat...if you need less time to regen, that's more time pummelling. Eventually, you'll win. Damage is the second most important characteristic on a weapon...the higher the damage, the higher the special attack damage will be. Speed is ignored for the most part since any master will have a high enough speed mod to bring weapons down to almost 1.0 or below, making all weapons the same essential speed.

When it comes to the Katarn Knuckles, you want two things: a tier 3 damage slice (good luck looting an illegal core booster...very rare) and a SAC pup to bring the SAC down to at least 60. With a 60 SAC, you can squeeze in a fifth attack for the cost of four without the pup, and that can make a hell of a difference.

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Meh. Speed > SAC. As far as TK weapons go. both necrosis and katarn are both insanely low. I have my kk tweaked way out. .77 speed, the reg 75 SAC, almost 800 damage. with my doc buffs, I promise I hit faster than you do, regardless of any "speed cap" I have YET to see any evidence of it. the more SEAs I put in, the faster I Can attack. I get complimented on a daily basis on how fast I can attack.......... and if you have a DECENT damaging weapon. speed > sac > damage.

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wrong....id rather have more dmg any day than spd....every special has its own timer anyway...once you get the doc speed buff or mushroom pie you are fine on spd

Higher Min-Max Damage > Speed

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XTvrnal wrote:

Meh. Speed > SAC. As far as TK weapons go. both necrosis and katarn are both insanely low. I have my kk tweaked way out. .77 speed, the reg 75 SAC, almost 800 damage. with my doc buffs, I promise I hit faster than you do, regardless of any "speed cap" I have YET to see any evidence of it. the more SEAs I put in, the faster I Can attack. I get complimented on a daily basis on how fast I can attack.......... and if you have a DECENT damaging weapon. speed > sac > damage.

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I have been a weaponsmith since the beginning of CU and after much experimentation the order of importance is this: Damage, SAC, speed. Unless you're using melee hit, there is a cooldown cap on specials. If you have a doc buff or use mushroom pie, then you should be able to do attacks at their cap (1hit per second). The only thing is that you have to actually know HOW to do your attacks and arrange them so that the cooldown timers don't conflict. After the next publish, however this may change as combat speed buffs are getting toned down.

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Iwifia wrote:

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AramusLowca wrote:

speed > damage any day

if ur faster then ur oponent then u can hit him more times per second thus inflicting more dmg thus being the winnner of the fight

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You know nothingh about dueling, or specail attacks, doa bitta research and learn about dmg multiplyers and what there based on.

Kthxbye.

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u sir need to mind urself, i havent lost a fight since the CU against 3 or less ppl. ive gone by speed over damage since the CU and u know what, it works fine.i have lvl 2 dmg and lvl 2 crit slice on my katarn with a capped sac pup, thus my sac takes ages to fall because of my regen. in other words i think u should clamp it considering ive probly fought in more battles in 1 week then you will ever in a month, thats pvp and pve both

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QFE

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XTvrnal wrote:

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Iwifia wrote:

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AramusLowca wrote:

speed > damage any day

if ur faster then ur oponent then u can hit him more times per second thus inflicting more dmg thus being the winnner of the fight

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You know nothingh about dueling, or specail attacks, doa bitta research and learn about dmg multiplyers and what there based on.

Kthxbye.

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u sir need to mind urself, i havent lost a fight since the CU against 3 or less ppl. ive gone by speed over damage since the CU and u know what, it works fine.i have lvl 2 dmg and lvl 2 crit slice on my katarn with a capped sac pup, thus my sac takes ages to fall because of my regen. in other words i think u should clamp it considering ive probly fought in more battles in 1 week then you will ever in a month, thats pvp and pve both

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QFE

to the guy who told me damage was better than speed. I really wish you were on lowca so I could disprove that theory of yours. Learn how to play your template, and damage #'s on the weapon don't matter.

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i fought a jedi with a vk yestarday and won because of my speed

the way i c it, u show me a Teris Kasi who never worried about speed, and ill show u a Teris Kasi who doesnt know how to fight

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Daikatsu wrote:

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Iwifia wrote:
speed > damage any day

if ur faster then ur oponent then u can hit him more times per second thus inflicting more dmg thus being the winnner of the fight

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Horribly untrue. You want less SAC to win against any opponent since it lets you do more specials. It's special moves that win combat...if you need less time to regen, that's more time pummelling. Eventually, you'll win. Damage is the second most important characteristic on a weapon...the higher the damage, the higher the special attack damage will be. Speed is ignored for the most part since any master will have a high enough speed mod to bring weapons down to almost 1.0 or below, making all weapons the same essential speed.

When it comes to the Katarn Knuckles, you want two things: a tier 3 damage slice (good luck looting an illegal core booster...very rare) and a SAC pup to bring the SAC down to at least 60. With a 60 SAC, you can squeeze in a fifth attack for the cost of four without the pup, and that can make a hell of a difference.

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in that i wasnt talking SAC, SAC to me is 1st then speed then damage

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Iwifia wrote:
the way i c it, u show me a Teris Kasi who never worried about speed, and ill show u a Teris Kasi who doesnt know how to fight

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^ exactly. I haven't lost a 1v1 duel in quite a while..... not because I hit super hard, or hit soft for a long period of time. but because I have a ridiculous speed, and I can toss out TONS of damage over a super short period of time because of that speed. speed is and always will be more important than damage when concerning a tka

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XTvrnal wrote:

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Iwifia wrote:
the way i c it, u show me a Teris Kasi who never worried about speed, and ill show u a Teris Kasi who doesnt know how to fight

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^ exactly. I haven't lost a 1v1 duel in quite a while..... not because I hit super hard, or hit soft for a long period of time. but because I have a ridiculous speed, and I can toss out TONS of damage over a super short period of time because of that speed. speed is and always will be more important than damage when concerning a tka

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thank u! come to ahazi now lol

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AramusLowca wrote:

speed > damage any day

if ur faster then ur oponent then u can hit him more times per second thus inflicting more dmg thus being the winnner of the fight

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You know nothingh about dueling, or specail attacks, doa bitta research and learn about dmg multiplyers and what there based on.

Kthxbye.

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u sir need to mind urself, i havent lost a fight since the CU against 3 or less ppl. ive gone by speed over damage since the CU and u know what, it works fine.i have lvl 2 dmg and lvl 2 crit slice on my katarn with a capped sac pup, thus my sac takes ages to fall because of my regen. in other words i think u should clamp it considering ive probly fought in more battles in 1 week then you will ever in a month, thats pvp and pve both

Your arguement about speed lost any credibility when you said you had yet to see any evidence of the spped cap. Its there, always has been there, and coupled with cool downs it makes speed a non issue for TK.