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Thread: Wait, a TKM can't take a Fencer now?

Shadusdarkmour
Tue Dec 02, 2003 11:10 am
#14

Fencer here.Yeah now we are a very defensive class but we stil our disadvantages. if defense acurity worked for you guys you would have similar benefits. Too bad it doesnt as it would make for great duels. personally i like the new defensive role given to us as our damage stinks. Before our only was benefit was our multiple versions of blinding attacks as they were the only way to insure surival.



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_Macabre_
Tue Dec 02, 2003 12:47 pm
#15

Using specials does not cancel CoB.


We have CoB, it just doesn't work very well against anything with a better chance to hit than a gnort. Don't worry though, there's a new patch coming in a couple weeks that will re-shuffle the deck again


I have see a whole bunch of fencers since the last patch. Either they're getting their turn on the pedestal or they've all just come out of hiding.




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Rassoar
Tue Dec 02, 2003 3:28 pm
#16

Good!! let fencers have CoB that works. Finally another melee class with a viable skill. Melee needed loving and glad fencers got it as well. Now if the developers can only hook up the pikeman a bit.....



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Aynsun
Tue Dec 02, 2003 4:08 pm
#17

Been thinking and testing CoB somewhile now and what I feel that it sort of works as it should. Really the problem here is that it seems to affect most on dodge, block and counter attack which are defencive skill that we don't have. So you can imagine that we won't be doing much of those. Even if it affects to ranged&melee defence (I hope it will) there is still limiting factor that hit modifier is being -50 to +50. If CoB works as it seems then the reason why tka CoB "sucks" so bad is that we dont have other defencive mods than melee/ranged defence.


My thoughs, maybe some one else have done better study as I dont have any other melee tree skills or pistol dodge atm




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KaliMirchi
Tue Dec 02, 2003 4:47 pm
#18

A fencer beating a tka??? OMG Say it isnt so!!!!!!




Seeeesh.



Don't factor skill into it.... or perhaps the fencer picked up other defense trees (like tka even?) just whine and complain that finally fencers are a viable profession.



The fact that plenty of TKM have beat Fencers is saying that the classes are finally balancing.



get over it.



Seena




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scphares
Tue Dec 02, 2003 6:12 pm
#19

Paper beats rock, rock beats scissors, scissors beats paper.
EATENG
Tue Dec 02, 2003 6:38 pm
#20

i can almost guarantee that most of the fencers you face are also master brawlers... and probably have a few lines in the other elite melee professions as well.



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VikaLine
Tue Dec 02, 2003 7:37 pm
#21

A well played Fencer will own a well played TK everytime hands down. To many people think TK is the ultimate tank and there wrong were good but were not gods. Fencers get a 50% resist to KD and I beleave very high Dizzy as well. TKM have 5% to dizzy and 30% to kd ya 20% difference to KD doesnt sound like much but trust me it is. Esp. if that Fencers is a pistoleer with combined dodge of 210 I beleave that breaks down to over an 80% chance to dodge PRE COB.



Vikaline
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Ktwhobbes
Tue Dec 02, 2003 7:55 pm
#22

Could you plz tell that to the heavy swordsmen? They spend night and day thinking about how to beat us.



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KnightHawk420
Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:03 pm
#23

Some of you need to take a pill. Not a single post in here whining or crying, or calling for nerfs.



But this is a somewhat new phenomenon.... fencers used to be somewhat of a tarnished and hated class, and suddenly they are taking us TKA's down with relative ease just as we TKA's are really feeling our power.... I think at least a few of us are wondering what is it about fencer that lets them do that...


To that effect I think some of you are right.. it must be Master Fencer/Master Pistoleer combos, I remember the guy I fought was a pistoleer as well.... and no doubt some of the best defensive mods are stuck in these two classes.


Was a good fight, not just a cold hard beating... it took a few minutes.. but he always ended up the winner, and me ended up stunned at having lost. lol...


I did manage to flame him and get some nice wounds in though.. yay for small victories




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XingYuen
Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:33 pm
#24

Speaking from slightly outside the TK world, as a Blademaster, I think some things have changed in my profession for the better. While we gained heavily in the last couple of patches, TK really seems to stay where they where. I don't think that puts my profession ahead of yours, just closer in line with it. Dueling TKM's previous to the patch that brought us CoB, I won maybe 1/5 times. Some of those losses simply due to problems with my profession. Our dodge didn't even work right until the CoB addition. I think that when the CoB addition was added, fencers looked a lot different in the combat scene because we gained CoB but at the same time they corrected some calculation problems with the way our dodge worked. Turned out to be a pretty good day for me as you would imagine. Now, against an evenly skilled TKM, I win probably 60-70% of the time. I wouldn't say that it's because of fencing, I've spent a lot of time building my fencing templte into a PvP build. I've mastered brawler, and even picked up some of your line for additional defenses.


Thanks for your time.





Xing Yuen

KnightHawk420
Tue Dec 02, 2003 10:26 pm
#25

I'm really rather happy with the setup.. Fencers own TKA's.. so be it... Fencers aren't owning flame throwers so easily...




It doesn't seem to me fencers are doing the kinds of dmg tka's are doing either... My god it may just be balanced.....




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vexingthought
Tue Dec 02, 2003 11:56 pm
#26






KnightHawk420 wrote:

It doesn't seem to me fencers are doing the kinds of dmg tka's are doing either... My god it may just be balanced.....





Try telling that to the thousand people starting threads everywhere saying TKA is overpowered.



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