Teras Kasi Archive

Thread: To Mr. Heavy, Don't take offense, but I disagree with the projected Teras Kasi you have set.

Amrien_Talfrey
Fri Dec 26, 2003 2:24 pm
#14

Yes, in fact I have been a Pikeman, and you know what?


They are just broken.


Period.


Nothing should be balanced againest them, they need a complete reworking.




Amrien Talfrey.
Retired Colonel of the Imperial Navy.
Curator of the Theora Aquarium.
...currently training as a Teras Kasi and a Doctor.
mega3113
Fri Dec 26, 2003 3:16 pm
#15

Lowest DPS and debuffing equals dead in PvP. Unless the class is set up to take/dodge a ton of hits in the field it equals dead in PvE too. I don't see how this new proposed direction will be fun and/or effective to play.


TKA are fineas they are now. This new vision won't be very effective the way this game is structured. Seriously, if this is the vision then we need all damage types so we can whack away at the new 350k HAM creatures and do our low DPS. As it is, being limited to kinetic is the perfect foil to our high DPS.

pyclone
Fri Dec 26, 2003 10:21 pm
#16

Not if its AOE debuffing, a stuned/dizzied/blinded anything is not a threat



Zocli a ilcoZ
Killer Doctor t Jedi Crafter
maliqai
Fri Dec 26, 2003 10:40 pm
#17

What's the deal?! Why would any TK want to nerf TK? Whats wrong with our profession? Why should we have to suffer?
Amrien_Talfrey
Sat Dec 27, 2003 11:54 am
#18

Wanna know my BIGGEST issue with the template?


This is NOT what Teras Kasi was when I began training it 6 months ago. And to suddenly have it change after I have JUST reached Master, is just kind of a kick in the balls.


It took me a long time to get here, and even if we are overpowered, I don't want the entirety of the class to change all of a sudden.


As we are, we have...



  • Good Damage

  • Good Tougness

  • Good Speed

And...



  • Bad Defences (all are broken)

  • Single Damage Type

  • Random Pool strikes for primary attacks

  • No bleeds

This is in fact BALANCED.


Believe it or not, it's not that we are over powered, it's that we are well built for this game.


Why?



  • Defences are almost entirely ineffective throughout the game. Thus, toughness is a must, as the game is all about how much damage you can take. We are the closest thing this game has to a tank.

But then again, anything with good DOTs can be equally effective, take Riflemen, Swordsman, and Commando. HUGE DOTs, and thus are popular.


And what about Creature Handlers?


In this game, they are the tanks, while Melee can't tank ANYTHING, COB doesn't help enough, and since the recent damage increases for enemies, Damage Mitigation is useless too (especially for melees)


It's not us who are imbalanced, it is the game itself.


--Amrien Talfrey




Amrien Talfrey.
Retired Colonel of the Imperial Navy.
Curator of the Theora Aquarium.
...currently training as a Teras Kasi and a Doctor.
Amrien_Talfrey
Sat Dec 27, 2003 12:08 pm
#19

Oops...


Pressed Enter before I was done


Well anyway...


What I was going to draw into my conclusion was that...


Even if we ARE imbalanced, than the sudden change from our current template, to one entirely different and foreign from our current state, will alienate an immense amount of the casual gamer's player base.




Amrien Talfrey.
Retired Colonel of the Imperial Navy.
Curator of the Theora Aquarium.
...currently training as a Teras Kasi and a Doctor.
mega3113
Sat Dec 27, 2003 12:31 pm
#20




Not if its AOE debuffing, a stuned/dizzied/blinded anything is not a threat





It can take me 5 to 10 attempts to lay on debuff on higher level MoBs. Most PvPers have high defense to all debuffs. If this is all TKA will be good for they need to make it so our debuffs are rarely, if ever, resisted and they need to make them last a good long time. Otherwise we will be the new pikeman.
Amrien_Talfrey
Sat Dec 27, 2003 12:34 pm
#21

Exactly what I've been saying,


Thanks for the support




Amrien Talfrey.
Retired Colonel of the Imperial Navy.
Curator of the Theora Aquarium.
...currently training as a Teras Kasi and a Doctor.
agerg
Sat Dec 27, 2003 12:46 pm
#22

so basically, we want what teras kasi was exactly like at release?



Xitri
I Heart t3h Buffs



Amrien_Talfrey
Sat Dec 27, 2003 12:49 pm
#23

...


I'm confused as to where you drew that conclusion...


I really have no response for you beyond "No"


Ok.


Please take a moment and browse through my posts for a moment, perhaps then you will aquire a jist of what I'm trying to say.




Amrien Talfrey.
Retired Colonel of the Imperial Navy.
Curator of the Theora Aquarium.
...currently training as a Teras Kasi and a Doctor.
VikaLine
Sun Dec 28, 2003 1:19 am
#24

I like alot of what Heavy has done in the past but I am hoping that he reads more posts on these purposed changes and doesnt put in that request. Reason being is that I feel we are the most balanced of the melee b/c of all the limiting factors.


1- 1 damage type and limited to ap 1 at the most and that increases our already high HAM costs


2- Some of the lowest if not the lowest def mods in regards to game winning moves like KD and Dizzy


3- The pool targeted moves are the weakest we have


4- We are the only of the melee that cant stack our COB with other ranged professions


I just dont want these changes to be brought on by FOTM TK's or Hologrinders that havent a clue. I dont want to offend anyone but I think that the older TK's opinions should be held in a bit higher regard than the new breed, since most of us have lived thru the bad and good times, and I think the majority of the old TKM's feel we are quite balanced.




Vikaline
-Master Doctor
-Tera Kasi Master
pyclone
Sun Dec 28, 2003 1:24 am
#25

Your totaly wrong when you say tka has random pool strikes, we have a 3x dmg special that targets mind, it doesn't get any better then that for directed dmg strikes



Zocli a ilcoZ
Killer Doctor t Jedi Crafter
VikaLine
Sun Dec 28, 2003 1:33 am
#26

Pyclone your wrong ua hit 1 , 2, and 3 are the best damage dealing moves we have and our random pool moves. Yes Head Hit is the best Precision strike move we have but frankly its worthless in anything but pvp. My damage with any of precision moves is far below that of my ua 2 or 3 move in pve or pvp.



Vikaline
-Master Doctor
-Tera Kasi Master
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