Tailor Archive
Thread: With decay comes underpants: discuss
NJ62 wrote:
The fact is, decay is coming in patch 10. The devs implemented clothing decay upon deathspecifically because they did not want people to be able to wear clothing forever.It is a bug. It is getting fixed. Debating this is moot.
Syzygy-Gorath wrote:
I'm sorry if I don't sound at all sympathetic, but to be quite honest I'm not. I no longer care what the rest of the game thinks of me as a tailor—I've been slapped in the face too many times by players who view me as their personal craftslave and devs who seem to want to reinforce that view. So now we're even—you're mad because you're going to lose millions of credits in SEAs, and I'm mad because I've been treated as the bottom rung of crafting since my first day as a tailor. I want the problems with my profession fixed and to be brutally, totally honest I don't care how many millions of credits in SEAs it costs you or any other player.
I know what it is like to want to lash out, I was a DE for about 10 months. Then I mastered musician. You aren't the only one who feels like they are second rate citizens, believe me. But the wookiees are going to have a different point of view than most, simply because we have all of about 8 different things we can wear.
My point, once again, is to make it fun first. My clothes wearing out? Sure, that's fine because that's what happens to my clothes. But if I sew some sort of enhancement on my hood, and I tear my hood, the attachment doesn't necessarily need to be ripped. My clothes are destroyed? I get new clothes. But I do I really need to get new pins and patches too?
You know, if it were up to me I wouldn't have SEA's at all. It concerns me that tailors aren't in the loop for something that is so completely integral to clothing that it is destroyed when the clothing wears out, yet requires no skill whatsoever to integrate. I don't know why SEA's couldn't be schematics. Especially since they are going to wear out. Or why Tailors can't just have more options like with the BE enhancements.
But you know, whatever. I am a wookiee. I usually have to special order anything I am going to wear, becauseonly the besttailors actually stock wookiee garb. It is even harder to find BE enhanced wookiee garb, and then I get to pick the color on my shoulder pad, from what I understand to be a limited color palette. I really don't need to be alienated any further, thank you.
ROFLMAO!!!!!- Make a new type of NPC stormtrooper - "Fashion Police" to enforce this
3) More expensive. The Imperial Crackdown: an elite corps of the stormtroopers (i.e. the fashion police) should fine people for appearing in public indecently unclad. I'm only half joking on this one.
Akaara wrote:
I hope the wookiee life day robe will be exempt and wedding rings! No one wants their wedding rings or special gifts to decay. I personally am not in favor of decay, but then again I have been tailoring since day one and have a nice nest egg in my bank account.
There's more to Tailoring than money, at least for me
I get such a sense of satisfaction on the days I sell the most clothing, it's fun tosellmy latest creations
And I'm not selling things as quickly as I was the first couple of months of the game. I know some of you are selling just as much as you ever have and that's very nice for you (really no need to tell me again), but some of us are casual playersand don't have a hugecustomer base.
Shortly after launch people bought clothesbecause they didn't have any, and they wanted to look good. I don't believe that willchange. Remember how many silly people threatened to run around in their underwear when thedeath decay system went in? Before anyone even knew it was broken there was no mass underwear wearing as had been claimed 
People care more about their character's looks than the color of their droid or vehicle. And I'd warrant to say that it'seasier to find some clothing for sale than acolorization kit (at leastI can neverfind the silly things).
Remember when the ability for guys to beshirtless went in? Everyone was panicking saying that all the guys would be running around like that. I maybe see one every few weeks. People will keep on buying ourclothes...
Message Edited by Kwee on 04-25-2004 09:24 AM
I've got a Wookiee toon as well, and I was just bemoaning not being able to wear anything under/with armor last night (ended up deciding not to wear the leggings in favor of a Sigiled Waist Wrap—looks indecent without the wrap anyway.) But really none of this is the point, nor is it our concern. SEA functionality is something that should be taken up in Core Systems. As you rightly pointed out, we don't have a thing to do with them. As far as the life day robes go, it would be nice if they were treated like SE goggles and Geonosian rebreathers—never decayed. After all, they're purely aesthetic and they're irreplaceable, same as the goggles. Of course, that might entail a no-drop/no-trade restriction…who knows.
SinjenRandall wrote:
NJ62 wrote:
The fact is, decay is coming in patch 10. The devs implemented clothing decay upon deathspecifically because they did not want people to be able to wear clothing forever.It is a bug. It is getting fixed. Debating this is moot.
I wasn't debating this. I was just saying that having someone arrested now for not wearing clothing is perhaps going too far.
They fixed decay on clothing. Good enough for now. Wait and see how that goes before suggesting that the imperials shoot you for walking around nekkid. Not to mention that it would be another year before they got around to doing that, considering how long decay hasn't worked out for clothing. Nobody I know actually likes running around in the underwear that is already in the game.
Syzygy-Gorath wrote:
I'm sorry if I don't sound at all sympathetic, but to be quite honest I'm not. I no longer care what the rest of the game thinks of me as a tailor—I've been slapped in the face too many times by players who view me as their personal craftslave and devs who seem to want to reinforce that view. So now we're even—you're mad because you're going to lose millions of credits in SEAs, and I'm mad because I've been treated as the bottom rung of crafting since my first day as a tailor. I want the problems with my profession fixed and to be brutally, totally honest I don't care how many millions of credits in SEAs it costs you or any other player.
I know what it is like to want to lash out, I was a DE for about 10 months. Then I mastered musician. You aren't the only one who feels like they are second rate citizens, believe me. But the wookiees are going to have a different point of view than most, simply because we have all of about 8 different things we can wear.
My point, once again, is to make it fun first. My clothes wearing out? Sure, that's fine because that's what happens to my clothes. But if I sew some sort of enhancement on my hood, and I tear my hood, the attachment doesn't necessarily need to be ripped. My clothes are destroyed? I get new clothes. But I do I really need to get new pins and patches too?
You know, if it were up to me I wouldn't have SEA's at all. It concerns me that tailors aren't in the loop for something that is so completely integral to clothing that it is destroyed when the clothing wears out, yet requires no skill whatsoever to integrate. I don't know why SEA's couldn't be schematics. Especially since they are going to wear out. Or why Tailors can't just have more options like with the BE enhancements.
But you know, whatever. I am a wookiee. I usually have to special order anything I am going to wear, becauseonly the besttailors actually stock wookiee garb. It is even harder to find BE enhanced wookiee garb, and then I get to pick the color on my shoulder pad, from what I understand to be a limited color palette. I really don't need to be alienated any further, thank you.
Akaara wrote:
I hope the wookiee life day robe will be exempt and wedding rings! No one wants their wedding rings or special gifts to decay. I personally am not in favor of decay, but then again I have been tailoring since day one and have a nice nest egg in my bank account.
Wedding rings don't decay on death by the way hehe.
I love all your ideas, even the last one really. It's kinda sad to get to that when people who have sometimes millions in bank are too cheap to buy clothes for 1k though.
And for the brutal post... I couldn't agree more.
Well glad I got an armorsmith/tailor friend. I wont be buying any clothes. As it was I did anyway just to change fashion but not to satisfy your desires of wealth. I dont care about skill tapes as I dont spend millions of credits on anything. I feel if I cant get the stuff myself I dont deserve having it when it comes to loot items.
If you really want tokeep return business Id suggest a little more thought into whats good for your customer though. Maybe decay is a start but really I think you should push for tailors themselve being able to put craftable enhancements in clothes such as resists to damage types or anything but have charges and come back for that reason, instead of returning all pissed that their million credit items are gone. (which I dont know why they spend like that)