Swordsman Archive
Thread: Swordman PvP guide
AriasImmortal
Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:08 pm
#53
Heh, i don't notice the acc hit because i'm nearly maxed on acc mods and i take citros... and i'm also never blinded 
my PH is 256 min so I actually hit for more than with my scythe, but I'd go along with ya and recommend the scythe for melee opponents and PH for ranged (unless you're like me
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my PH is 256 min so I actually hit for more than with my scythe, but I'd go along with ya and recommend the scythe for melee opponents and PH for ranged (unless you're like me
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Noc-turnal
Thu Aug 19, 2004 6:53 pm
#54
i only got a few acc tapes myself but i am a speed capper, althought theoricly they shouldnt be a reason why your PH perform better in accuracy/status application than the scythe still since the scythe acc mod is better (usualy)
I think i need to make a new section on the guide about weapon selection and what is right for your character, what do you guys think?
SpidermanPuddin
Fri Aug 20, 2004 1:24 pm
#55
Noc-turnal wrote:Grouping : grouping with SL is very useful, in pratical application i find no many people fancy being SL. its very unloved profession even more so than swordman.
Yes, I have just started Dropping Master Squad Leader/Master Rifleman after an unfortunate episode I had in the Anchorhead Cantina where two IMPs killed me after I ran my @$$ off for 2 Kilometers. I was pissed because all that SP was wasted and I couldn't do a damn thing to help my self as a Squad Leader...
When I finish my new Brawler template I'm going back and killing everyone! -even the rebels
/evilgrin
TreindTyde
Fri Aug 20, 2004 8:52 pm
#56
Some great items for reference:
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=brawler&message.id=9850
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=brawler&message.id=11032
Accidentally went to the brawler forums and found those 2. One is about warcry and the other about intimidate. The uses the guy wrote down in them are phenomenal. Tried em out in a duel and they worked, especially warcry 2.
Naruk_The_Wookiee
Sat Aug 21, 2004 5:29 am
#57
SpidermanPuddin wrote:
Noc-turnal wrote:
Grouping : grouping with SL is very useful, in pratical application i find no many people fancy being SL. its very unloved profession even more so than swordman.
Yes, I have just started Dropping Master Squad Leader/Master Rifleman after an unfortunate episode I had in the Anchorhead Cantina where two IMPs killed me after I ran my @$$ off for 2 Kilometers. I was pissed because all that SP was wasted and I couldn't do a damn thing to help my self as a Squad Leader...
When I finish my new Brawler template I'm going back and killing everyone! -even the rebels
/evilgrin
Your Titel/Profession is Master Squad Leader...Next time have some bodyguards with u....
Noc-turnal
Sat Aug 21, 2004 1:24 pm
#58
Lord-Nasa wrote:
Hey noc, arias here. just gonna post some numbers on the acc thing
On my server, citros snowcake is a 40% acc increase. for a normal Mswordsman/Mbrawler, that means he has 189 acc while on citros. For a -39 range mod weapon (most acklay PHs on my server) that would affectively put him at 150 acc from a +0 standpoint. From a +8 standpoint that would put him at 142 acc, still higher than an Mswordsman/Mbrawler with a +8 scythe and no citros.
The gap between gets higher as the more acc you get. A Mswordsman/Mbrawler with +20 in acc attachments gets a total of 217 acc. for a -39 range mod weapon that would put him at 178 acc with +0, or 170 with +8... still higher than a normal Mswordsman/Mbrawler with a +8 scythe with +20 acc mods and no Citros.
So you see, its very easy to offset the range mod deficit with citros, and the only way you'll get better acc is if you use a +18 scythe over citros and a -39 hammer... which effectively gives you +10 more acc, not worth it in exchange for the higher damage IMO.
Normal hammers of course, have MUCH better range mods than acklay ones but the low min offsets that as well.
And that's why I never have acc problems with my acklay hammer
Nice post, although i did say that weapons are best picked according to your toons. I personaly save ALL food and drink space for survival method. as long as you stay alive you can win is my motto my +18 scythe is still godly.
They are pro and cons, the best person to judge what works best for you is yourself all anyone can do is give you options. the way i fight for me is 2 arisha 2 brandy enough room for canape is i get mind poisoned, and still be able to stick in a moun gold. In no way do would i say you shouldnt use critos with your power hammer but there is a down side, whiles your scythe isnt dependant on that for a regular performance. Thats why i say carry a few weapons, i know i do it gives me flexibility the joy of PvP is that not everone you fight is that same and some requires different tactics than other.
I would point out tho that for melee fighter your min damage is the most important stats so unless you have acklay hammer the better option is your scythe (most of the time). with speed cap a good acklay hammer can be your baby, you just need to be abir more awear of that status but it gives far better performace that the scythe with patice (if you are speed capped)
now that i writen that and we all had good dicussion on the topic i will add the section to the guide, arias if you dont mind i may need to quote your post, let me know if it's okay
Lord-Nasa
Sat Aug 21, 2004 5:30 pm
#59
my good acklay hammer is like 500 max condition now 
have to get a new one soon (and i hope to god it gets damage sliced, i had 4 acklay hammers sliced and only one got damage)
have to get a new one soon (and i hope to god it gets damage sliced, i had 4 acklay hammers sliced and only one got damage)yea, everyone should experiment for themselves and see what comes out. its the best way to do things for sure. i know a lot of peoplewho can't work with my tactics because their template is different or they have different gear, etc. but generally they work for people with similar templates (thats why i never need canape,/curep andno more poison 
)
)heh, i remember back when def stacking wasn't capped (did swords in december to go along with carbineer)... that was entertaining , nothing like 215 counterattack+CoB to piss off those ranged people. i wish i could still do that rofl.
, nothing like 215 counterattack+CoB to piss off those ranged people. i wish i could still do that rofl. ps-its fine to quote my post, i wrote it for the benefit of the guide
Lord-Nasa
Sun Aug 22, 2004 12:21 am
#60
Hey noc, arias here. just gonna post some numbers on the acc thing
On my server, citros snowcake is a 40% acc increase. for a normal Mswordsman/Mbrawler, that means he has 189 acc while on citros. For a -39 range mod weapon (most acklay PHs on my server) that would affectively put him at 150 acc from a +0 standpoint. From a +8 standpoint that would put him at 142 acc, still higher than an Mswordsman/Mbrawler with a +8 scythe and no citros.
The gap between gets higher as the more acc you get. A Mswordsman/Mbrawler with +20 in acc attachments gets a total of 217 acc. for a -39 range mod weapon that would put him at 178 acc with +0, or 170 with +8... still higher than a normal Mswordsman/Mbrawler with a +8 scythe with +20 acc mods and no Citros.
So you see, its very easy to offset the range mod deficit with citros, and the only way you'll get better acc is if you use a +18 scythe over citros and a -39 hammer... which effectively gives you +10 more acc, not worth it in exchange for the higher damage IMO.
Normal hammers of course, have MUCH better range mods than acklay ones but the low min offsets that as well.
And that's why I never have acc problems with my acklay hammer
TreindTyde
Wed Sep 01, 2004 8:28 am
#62
I recently picked up some pikatta pie and used it for the first time last night. Wow, it was amazing, I'm master swords/tka/bralwe/3000 fencer/medic 0040 and with a CoB macro going I was practicaly unhitable. I was dueling a rifleman/tka and he had me dizzy and KDed and he hit me like once out of 10 or so tries from ideal range with his jawa ion rifle. Moral of the story, use pikatta pie. I usually have 2 brandy 1 synth 1 citros and now 1 pikatta and I pop a canape if my mind looks like its in trouble.
AkieKrehor
Sat Sep 04, 2004 10:06 am
#64
Thanks i decided to be master swordsmen/master fencer/novice medic/master brawler
this info helped me out alot!
Sai-Em-Hefix
Tue Sep 21, 2004 6:58 am
#65
Also aboytPvP against combat medici think is good combin swordman+doctor.. u can heal your poison