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The katana is not all that long of a blade when compared to a claymore, 36in or so as compared to 42in or more.Also the wakizashi is not a bastardsword (or hand-and-a-half sword since that's getting edited) the long hilt is simply a matter of astetics, since the blade is too short to be of much use when handled that way.If anything the Katana would be considered the hand-and-a-half sword, since it was used both with one or two hands.

That being said, using two hands on the katana, or any weapon of similar size for that matter, makes for bettercontrol and more power.

Well I have to say that at first I was drawn to the concept espoused by Moderator and referenced by raider7734, but then I realized that, as a Rodian, I have two arms, two legs and two antennae. Why should I be limited to only 5 weapons. So I decided that if that is the way you are going to be I prefer WarFerret's idea. I want to wield a master level VibroSpeeder.

I can see the stats now - damage range 7000 - 14000, speed 20. Oh, sure, it takes me forever to hit you but I only have to do it once.

As for fencers...I am not a fencer so I don't really care what they get. I assume that the devs will take things into account (okay, stop laughing) and won't give them full damage and speed on both weapons.

Just hope the dual wield is a visual thing only.

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OnlyMaestro wrote:

Besides I don't even care if it adds damage or extra attacks -- if I wanted an uber-easy to kill you character I'd be a Rifleman.

I'd rather have the looks of dual-wielding.

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THEN BECOME A FENCER! lol... If it's all for the looks, don't come and make OUR class totally illogic, and choose the class WITH dualwield..

And lol again, I've been HS since I started the game, it was my first class ever, don't come here and call us "post scythe" people because we actually see the meaning of the term HEAVY. Get real.

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OnlyMaestro wrote:

Just fyi...the game doesn't not consider us two-handed. The actual coded name for our profession is:

"Swordsman." Not "Two-Handed Swordsman" or "Heavy Swordsman."

The actual database calls it just a "Swordsman." Or Swordsperson I guess if you're a girl.

Truthfully, neither fencers NOR swordsman deserve two-handed. Fencing is about movement and defense, swordsman are about attacking and offense. But just so you know...not every weapon (dual-wielding style) needs to make sense to their profession.

Example: T21 is not a rifle, Flamethrower is hardly a "Commando-ish" weapon, a Gaderffi stick is almost certainly heavy, and not a fencer weapon...but they try to do things with balance/equity -- not just what makes "sense."

Besides...Samurai (the idiom of Swordsman) had two weapons they were able to wield at the same time...the Katana (main weapon) and the Wakizashi (I believe that's the name of it) (the smaller sword they could use to defend with opposite hand, and main katana to attack with.

I could be wrong there...that's just from what I read and know from Japanese History classes taken in college...and the information gathered through the years. But could easily be wrong.

I know everyone wants heavier swords for damage...but slower. Damaging STRIKES are not what rules this game, it's damage per second that does. Why do you think everyone and their sister is a rifleman now?

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Uuuuuhh.... Why do we need to do the two-handed weaponsskilline to become Heavy Swordsman then?

Also, it's easier to call the class "swordsman" than "heavy Swordsman" but if you see the fencer totles, they say Swordsman, while ours say "Heavy Swordsman". Also all our weapons are too big to dualwield, not should we get dualwielding weapons, as they would clearly not be heavy swords. And yes, the game does concider us two-handed as is the name of our basic skilline.

As said before, it was not uncommon to use a second blade as a defensive option whilst wielding a single handed main sword, but I don't believe the second blade was ever used offensively with a couple of exceptions (like stabbing someone whilst their main blade is parried/blocked).

Although having said that, I believe there's certain branches of kung fu that deal with 2 identical blades wielded as an offensive pair and probably others.

Besides, it looks cool.

.. but a gigantic blade looks cooler It's an "I don't need two swords to get the job done" statement.

2-hand swordman is a difrent fighting style then dual wielders.

also fencer is diffrent fighting style from dual wielders.

that is why dual wielding should be a seperate class not in ether swordman or fencer. in randge profession pistol/bh/smuggler should be able to dual wield.

2-hand swordmen are based on being able to peirce trough and armor no matter how thick to kill someone. this is why we need a high damage weapon that is ar3. this wasy we could do tons of damage trough armor.

and if you dont think ar3 would do anything then ask riflemen the t-21 does trough compo with ease. so if someone has stun portection they switch to there t21 and is still able to do load of damage.

also fencers use one hand to wield a wepon and the other to balance and putting anouther weapon in teh other hand would trough them off balance. also would not fall into the style of fighting as a fencer has right now.

so dual wielding should be a new profession

and swordmen should be able to get an ap3 morning star that does like 150-500 damage unsliced or something like that

Fencer is probably a poor choice for a profession name to be honest, since they aren't really fencers, a master Fencer in SWG is actually called a "bladeMaster", but again that's pretty vague, since we're also swordsmen.

At any rate, just because they're called fencers doesn't mean they're restricted to foils and epees, they are in effect just light swordsmen or short swordsmen.

This makes me happy. not only because i am a fencer but because it means the devs are bing more open with their ideas and should be giving new things to all classes.As for swordsmen wielding two weapons i dont see it as the physics behind our weapons would make it nearly impossible for a real warrior to wield effectively. Also the theme behind Swordsman has always been about poweriful hits. Duel wielding doesnt come close to the same power behind its hits as a single weapon used with both hands. Also considering if swordsman got duel wielding it would never be considered on the same level of power we are used to.

If we dont get duelwielding we should and probably will get some thing just as good. If you still want duel wield after that then pick up fencer also. Then you truly will be blademaster. Or at least that my stance on it.

I doubt dual wielding will be all that great, you'll probably see massive negative to-hit modifiers coupled with 25-30% damage reduction on each weapon as well as negatives to dodge/counterattack etc.., my guess is it will probably be more of a style thing than anything else.

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OnlyMaestro wrote:

Besides I don't even care if it adds damage or extra attacks -- if I wanted an uber-easy to kill you character I'd be a Rifleman.

I'd rather have the looks of dual-wielding.

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THEN BECOME A FENCER! lol... If it's all for the looks, don't come and make OUR class totally illogic, and choose the class WITH dualwield..

And lol again, I've been HS since I started the game, it was my first class ever, don't come here and call us "post scythe" people because we actually see the meaning of the term HEAVY. Get real.

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About the lamest reply I've ever seen, no offence mate.

The fact that you have no argument to back yourself up with, kinda just confirms my suggestion on you being a nice object for a fencer class. As you said youself "dualwield looks cool", well, thus it shoulden't matter to you which class you are, consequently, you could go fencer and stop bugging us.