Swordsman Archive
Thread: How??
You think giving melee's a 35m attack is a fix?! lol..My "SNIPER RIFLE" has a range of 64m.
What your doing is crying about YOUR inabillity to PvP and it must be the class' fault not yours. Ontop of that your asking for "fixes" that would unbalance the entier game.
What ever... I'm done with this thread. I think I'll stop posting sugestions to improve peoples combat, it's pretty obvious that they don't really care about PvP, the Game or Mechaincis, they simply just want to whine.
Vym out
I haven't PVPed much, but the only times i have was when someone wanted to me to DB them or it was to test the range vs. melee pvp.
I decided to try it out with my brother since we share a connection andI figured it wouldn't be much of a problem, I was warping into him as we were both running and I still could not hit him with any of my attacks.
Some feat it is to take multiple ranged while they're moving like that, would love to see it for myself sometime.
Let me make sure we are clear on the 35m thing. I probably did say that. You have to understand what was meant though. If a ranged person is running and a melee person is after him the melee person has to stop because of animation of getting in the stance. At least that is what it seems to me to be happening. In that case the ranged person continues to run and fire. In that case on a full blown run with us stopping to get into stance and server lag, the ranged person is easily 20m away. I am not talking about standing toe to toe and hitting someone 35 meters away. I wholeheartedly don't want that.
Honestly, I dont know what answer is. I only know that hitting a moving target is nearly impossible for me.
Hmm, i get why morath cant believe what he is reading cause hes wookie, no armor = gimped thats my view. Yes i too have killed 4-5players in closed areas, having 2500health/action and 2000+mind pool helps 
Yes i was tanking pets and players, area attack rocks and bleed everyone in case they run
No that particular story was just me after the rest of our group had been beaten. I knew I was going down but I was surprised how long I lived (I didn't give up, kept running and healing myself). I literally had all the overts in Bestine on my tail at that point in time.
Did I win? Hell no. I did take 2 or 3 with me, though, before falling myself.
I think a great many of the people on these swordsmen forums tend to not want to (or be able to) adapt their own tactics to fight better, content with complaining in the hopes the devs make the class stronger so it's easier for them (why do you think the majority of people playing are BH or CH? they want to play SWG in 'easy' mode).
"By putting this crap on here all you are really doing is hurting the swordsman class. If the devs think it is not broke, we will not get what we trully need."
The fact is I can compete and I am happy with my class. I am sorry you are not. I do not think the swordsman class is broken. I think a lot of the swordsman players are broken. That's the truth as I see it.
-Shi
When she says she does not PvP (Player vs Player) much, she means duel or 1 vs 1. GvG means group vs group or Guild vs Guild. Meaning she fights in groups a whole lot. Which is most of the "PvP" conflicts out there. As our groups are usually 4 or less, yes she does end up "solo'ing" a lot of people. Especially if she runs indoors.
Bestine was our last city raid. I personally killed 12 before being brought down. Stabbed a little too deep in the city. Got tagteamed by 2 BH's eyeshotting me. Had to Equilibrium to counter, then I killed them and 1 other. After that I got swarmed and was ended by an ATST I think.
I then laid there as a corpse, waiting for Shimond to revive me. I watched the whole city chaseing her around for a looong time. She was eventually brought down. If I remember right she had so many wounds she was bugged and a CSR had to heal her after she cloned.
If you don't belive me, and your on Starsider, I'd be happy to give you a PvP "demonstration" hehe. Just send me a tell, unlike Shimond, I duel all the time.
I think there is a little group of kids here that we can call the kendreck club. Notice no explanation of tactics just that you eye shotted him and he beat you all. Its bull man and anyone with half a brain can see it. Who are you trying to fool? I am a Master of both and have been for about a month now. It isn't possible unless the other side is lying down.
Again we see the truth start to creep in here. Shi admitted it was her group not just her. However to take it a face value you would think it was only him/her.
Like I said you are only hurting our cause. Im not asking for us to be uber but we have got to find a way to hit a moving target. Lunge 1 doesnt cut it. Thats what I am asking for. Not to make us invincible.
I think Shi feels special because she is running around in the group and healing people and getting the occasional kill after the range boys have done all the work. That may be good enough for you, but not me.
you also have to remeber that when you kite your accuracy is decreased, me being a master swordsman with only 15 ranged defence, i think, have been missed alot from ranged classes standing still in prone. So when you get close to them and they start running they miss prolly 7 out of 10 times to me, and if they keep running run the other way and if they follow run back that way and repeat until you get bored, die or finally kill him. i dont mind being killing in pvp. cause then you learn more that ranged claases who kite will own you if they have common sense and dont run into a building cause they were looking the other way. I think we should get some indoor battle fields so that their isnt really room to run around and kite us so we can run around a corner and jump them with a headhit3.
just my thoughts
It's very hard to remain sympathetic to your "plight" when you insult me assuming I am unable to kill people alone.
I can assure you, I can and have killed a great many people by myself and even at one time (I incapped a room of5 people bymyself in a clone war, including a Master Fencer - one of the best defensive classes possible).
You started a 'pvp character' because you were unable to compete as a swordsman/doctor. I am of the strong opinion it is because you were not able to play that combination properly. Not that the combination itself is broken.
At this point I do not care that you are unable to succeed as a swordsman. You have already sold out without even trying as far as I am concerned.
I am done with this conversation.
-Shi
Until more recently I'm the only real ranged member of Cats. Strangly enough we are almost all melee.
Now I do drop people like it's going out of style, but Shimond is every bit as brutal as I am in combat.
I have seen her _solo_ on several occasions groups of 4+ people. I think the most was at the Oasis which was at least 8 of them. They were in the bottom of the indoor area in a small room grouping. There was a TON of them and I dont think they expected her to run in there and go off on them. The end result was her truely soloing them ALL while the rest of us were on the upper levels.
A lot of the times too it is just Shimond and me. I'm a master sniper. If there is a tightly packed group of people, I AOE, which means they auto target me. Which means I am the easiest to simply spam attack at while she can move in. Typically we are so outnumbered the oposition does not feel the nececity to kite. If were not outnumbered thier dead before they get a chance to kite.
Remember if a swordsman stacks a double mindbleed on you with that evil power hammer, your pretty much done. It makes my mindbleeds from my T21 look plesant =) So try kiting someone with that on your head, and then cry when they just step behind or into a building or object. Then your only choice is to go incap or go close range. Either means your dead.