Swordsman Archive
Thread: Guide to Soloing Elders
-Phoe-
Thu Sep 16, 2004 6:42 am
#14
If you're a melee stacker (or an aspiring one, like me 
Too lazy to grind), and you have the pistol defenses line, I'd recommend going prone at 60ish meters and putting a bleed on her then immediately peacing. Once the bleed ticks, she will run right to you without the agro of others in her group.
Too lazy to grind), and you have the pistol defenses line, I'd recommend going prone at 60ish meters and putting a bleed on her then immediately peacing. Once the bleed ticks, she will run right to you without the agro of others in her group.I used to do this with Rifleman, and it worked like a charm everytime. My fencer buddy would tank and I'd kneel a little bit away and headshot her, while my swordsman friend went and slowly worked the other spawns.
Its good to work in teams 
Rawauh
Thu Sep 16, 2004 9:48 am
#15
Oss_Wilum wrote:
YOU NEED DOCTOR
if you get into a serious KD+dizzy cycle, it could be curtains because she dizzies very frequently. getting in a dizzy cycle while you are bleeding is also very bad, make sure your stims can heal about 1000 at 0 BF because you'll get about 300 BF fighting her.
no you dont need doctor...
Master Swordsman, Master Bralwer (for time being as i need the +5 speed, need 1more attachment), TKA 0300, Pistoleer 0040, Medic 4040
you get something like +100 to both KD and Dizzy. along with +70 or so posture down. you dont get kd'd often...and if you do you got Combat Equilibrium from the TKA. once i can drop master brawler i can stack this even more with the few points i can free up.
Message Edited by Rawauh on 09-16-2004 11:49 AM
Eraint
Thu Sep 16, 2004 10:09 am
#16
The only problem I have had with elders is when they pull a stun baton on you. I was down so fast I didn't know what hit me. After that if they pull the baton, I run away.
Gazkan
Thu Sep 16, 2004 11:24 am
#17
Yep Phoe.. that's what I did to pull initially, but because I feigned I had immediate aggro when I got up, and that's when the friend's came along.
Wisky
Thu Sep 30, 2004 5:30 am
#19
I am master 2 hand speed capped
and I am a master Doctor
I have killed over 100 elders maybe 200
Some one mentioned a /stand;/clearstate macro or command BAH thatdoes not workall slowly click stand and then /healstate dizzy
As far as pulling elders its very very easy to do if you have a bleed shot. Another thing if you have no bleed shot is to just get within 39m of them. Thats it but only get within 39m of the elder. Then just do little circles like hit the arrow keys so you spin around a little and she will agro you. Start running away and slap an intim on her. Remember the thing the main poster mentioned about the way you face. That is the way she will run at 30K hams. You need to taunt asap. You dont want her to run into the spawn be cause if the other Night sisters agro you that takes aways from the amount of elders that spawn from that area. Yes they respawn if you find the usuallly 1 elder 2 protectors 2 spell weavers and 1 sentinal or initiate. You can get 8-12 elders to spawn from that area. All you need to do is wait and not kill any other NS but elders. After you kill the elder another will respawn in about 5-7 minutes.
I have master Doc so the healstate skill helps. along with the high heals But I know it is not a nessecity just helpful
Another Thing I have noticed that helps me is top key map useful commands. For instance My clear combat queue is kepmapped to my cntl on the left. My intimidate macro is mapped to my tab button. My healstate is keymaped to the Numpad + key. I find it alot easier to use keymaps opposed to click the Hotkeys. For one I can do it very very fast. Also some other keymaps I have are taunt, healdamage,mount and burst run.
Superdada
Thu Sep 30, 2004 11:50 am
#20
ok i just changed servers and i am starting over with my template will master swords/tkm and fencer and pistoleer defence stats be a good enough template to take NS? any help or template advice is appreciated
Del_Boy
Thu Sep 30, 2004 4:16 pm
#21
Definitely do-able with master doc/master swords. took 1 on tonight with a mindbuff and 2400 buffs. got the sucker down to 20k mind before she managed to mind kill me 
was pwning her ass up to then though, just use intimidate 1 (i have it modded to +20 which will only cost u about 20k to do) then mind hit her a few times, heal damage with 1000healingstimsthen mind hit again,then heal/intimidate as neccessary. took me about 10-15mins to get her down to 20k mind but she managed to mind incap me as i had no mind healing food/drink left to take - how i wished i had a muon on me
and as others have said it is vital that you taunt the elder when she starts to run, cause she has a nasty habit of finding protector/spellweaver spawns 
i guess my point is you don't need to be a defense stacker to do elders, so its good news for all you master doc/swordsmen out there
ooh, and i forgot to mention as a doc you have to heal your states, especially dizzy, if the elder dizzy/kd's you its pretty much game over (unless you get lucky)
Message Edited by Del_Boy on 09-30-2004 04:17 PM
Emotemaster
Fri Oct 01, 2004 12:21 am
#22
Moosemanuk wrote:
er .. teamwork? would that be like ... non-solo groups?
Hehe...Thats nice sometimes, but on the last elder i killed...i was with 4 people..me (swordsman/tk/medic) a doc / swords, rifle/doc and a fencer/swords...they all got slaughtered so i had to kill the elder, 3 protectors, 4 spellweavers, and elder alone >_> and let me tell you that bleed for 1.3k hurt cuz i don't have first aid..*sigh*..I finally killed her and got 638 credits 
grrr lol
so..anyway what i'm trying to say, is groups can make it more complicated sometimes...
Oh and great guide 
only 1 thing to add....RUN LIKE HELL IF SHE PULLS A BATON AND YOU DON'T HAVE STUN LAYER ARMOR AND A PSG!
only 1 thing to add....RUN LIKE HELL IF SHE PULLS A BATON AND YOU DON'T HAVE STUN LAYER ARMOR AND A PSG!
FD_Pilot
Fri Oct 01, 2004 6:48 am
#23
I have a half-a$$ed template...and I soloed my 1st elder (1st I've really tried since force powers came back) last night.
She had a basic lance. (AP0 I think)
Master Swords
Master Brawler
FS Melee Speed 3 (almost have 4)
TKA 4/0/0/4
Medic 4/4/4/0
Novice Scout
She only put me on my back with KD/Dizzy 3 times I think. No more than 4 times.
Use a off the shelf speed sliced powerhammer 138ish -472ish damage....(all I had on me at the time).
I'm trying to decide whether to drop medic and pick up something else...or drop TKA and take enough doc to cure states, poision, disease.
Wubbel
Sat Oct 02, 2004 4:19 am
#25
All those skills arent needed i can kill elders with just masterswords depending on weapon they use i usually avoid the 2h and stun baton and LVA for the rest walk in the park killed close to 300 of em now
Radditz Ryan MasterCH/Swordsman
Oss_Wilum
Sat Oct 02, 2004 9:52 pm
#26
just to add: now that i speed capped (finally!!) with my acklay hammer, it only takes me about 8-10 minutes to solo elders, depending on how mean they are with bleeds and KD Dizzies and such. i highly recommend the following:
Master Swordsman
Master Brawler(OMG intimidate 2 = teh pwnzors)
Novice Doctor(heal dizzies and such)
4000 TKA(i just know i'd miss meditation too much to lose it)
FS Skills(melee speed certainly made it cheaper to speed cap)
only thing i have to run from is the stun baton since i don't like having to buy overpriced stun armor and psgs and waste synthsteak.
i generally prefer not to fight them if they have a scythe or powerhammer. everything else is fair game tho.
now...
tips for soloing axkva? it's just soooo hard to deal with the protectors constantly