Squad Leader Archive

Thread: *Charges in!*

InfidiMihi
Thu Oct 21, 2004 11:15 am
#79

not a SL and never was one, just dropped by to say a few words about people that can't stop crying about things -


sometimes I think that once everything is fixed you will quit the game, because you enjoy whining about things and how much "The Devs" hate you. There are 33 professions out here, all or most of them

need fixes; some work better than others. Instead of logging on and thinking "oh noes devs hate me" every day, and proceeding to troll the forums, go master tk, rifle, doc or some other profession that works and takes a day or two to get - once whatever you really want to play is fixed, go play it!

People need to understand, it is not up to Devs to decide how many people are working and how much money is spend where - except for maybe small decisions. If they have 30 people, and they need at least 25 to get JtL done, then they need say 2 people to work on combat balance and 3 to fix in-game bugs, they can't magically create more coders now can they?


and a little advice to people that like leading - if lack of skills prevents you from doing that maybe you should not be a squad leader. Let me explain myself. On every server there are people that are known leaders - if you are into PvP and you see them leading a group of 13 people against your full group, you know you are dead. "Squad Leader" is not about useless skills, its about LEADING. Heck I'll give you a good example - a few weeks ago our group of non-pvpers (with few exceptions) went to battle a pvp guild, and somehow one of the "old people" logged on as we were getting owned - he was a master fencer, but he didnt fight at all - he just turned on CoB, stood up on the hill and /shout commands and sent tells to people - guess what, we won. Then more backup came, and he thought its safe for him to log off - the moment he did it, our adversaries came back and owned us (i think we only killed1 or 2 of them), even though we had more people than before!


Bottom line is- if you want to be a leader, go lead. Some day the profession will be fixed - until then you can still do what you enjoy, if you are good.
FlintH
Thu Oct 21, 2004 11:48 am
#80






Tiggs wrote:








tacwraith wrote:
Tiggs, sorry to bring this up, but we were told that JTL did not take any of the resources from SWG.








Community is excluded from that. We have to be in touch with all aspects of the game. That statement is referring to designers, Programmers, Art ect. Also that statement is very outdated (before my time) but I can tell you that in the gaming industry things change constantly and very quickly. At the time that statement was made it was true. Then along the line it was decided that JtL needed more and poof that statement is gone like the wind.








Yet here you say its been hectic from the JTL launch.

Of course, given SOE's record of lying this comes as no surprise to me.

Stuff dont make sense you know?

The squad leader proffession has had ZERO attention from the devs since launch. Its the least used proffession and by large, the most useless. Matter of fact I cant even remeber grouping with a squad leader in nearly a year...and bear in mind I play in Bria, biggest population server there is.



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Yip! I agree you haven't been getting attention lately. Actually not much of any attention has been paid since publish 10 to anything other then bug fixes. Why? Because once JtL is out the door the loving begins.


I think you will be happy when you finally hear about Combat upgrade and what it does for your profession. Just hang in there and remember you may have heard things before but not from me


With that being said, NO, I will not answer any combat upgrade questions or go into further detail. Why? Because we aren't quite there just yet.






There are many many regression issue that happened with Pub 10 that havent even been commented on. As a crafterI could honestly not care that much about combat revamp. I want stuff that worked before pub 10 to work.

FishBishop
Thu Oct 21, 2004 11:50 am
#81

I have to say that in the past few weeks, expecially in the beta forums, the lines of communication between the players and the devs has been nothing short of remarkable. It's really a shame that the players not in beta really cannot see how hard these people have been working on this game and how truly important players opinions are to them.

There are so many posts on these boards, some nice and some not so nice, but the quantity alone proves that people truly do care about this game. Even the ones who flame and troll and one star are here because they enjoy the game in the first place.

As players we very often don't have all of the information the devs do, so it can be difficult to have a complete understanding of what is really happening. These past few weeks have really made me feel as though this game is truly in the most capable of hands. All you need to do is read G's diary from the past few days to know this. Things take time, and galaxies is a very compicated system so problems will arise.

I just wanted to say good job devs, and expecially Tigs for improving the lines of communication. These forums have become a much better tool since you have taken some of the load off of G's an TH's back. /cheer .



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Ackehece
Thu Oct 21, 2004 11:54 am
#82






Tiggs wrote:


Just popping in to say hello to all of the SL's! I have been reading your forum and I see many negative threads. So I want to ask you what is it about Squad Leader that attracted you to make one?


actually tried SL when the first holocron i got was a SL holo - loved it and played it for three months when i finally dropped it to pick up BH (another holocron) I promised myself i would get back to it as soon as I was finished my next profession... that was three professions back. I am still going back to SL as it fits my play style more then anything else in the game.



And what is your motivation to continue with thisprofession?


Player style- I love yelling commands and help others just by being around! Wish we could do more to help others. Maybe with JTL SL can also mean Squad(ron) Leader not just squad leader.

(I have many ideas for that as well!)


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OnlyMaestro
Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:05 pm
#83

Squad Leader needs major major love. They are after all...our partners in crime.


Thanks for info Tiggs...kinda making me want to revist my Carbineer/Squad Leader...



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Acrod_Novys
Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:06 pm
#84




Tiggs wrote:




Note to everyone here:

I see all over these forums where you just want honest answers. That is fine but understand that I will give it and as long as I get the respect for being honest and not trolls or flames for it. In all aspects of life including the games we love and love to hate we have to take good and bad. It is how this information is processed once it is received.You don't have to like what I say and you can hate me for it. But respect the fact that I was honest (perhaps maybe brutally honest at times) and gave you the information you requested.


Message Edited by Tiggs on 10-21-2004 11:53 AM





50x5* for you...

Hope your boss knows how great your customer service is. Catch you in one of my own professions sometime



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WookieBounty
Thu Oct 21, 2004 2:43 pm
#85






Tiggs wrote:








tacwraith wrote:
Tiggs, sorry to bring this up, but we were told that JTL did not take any of the resources from SWG.








Community is excluded from that. We have to be in touch with all aspects of the game. That statement is referring to designers, Programmers, Art ect. Also that statement is very outdated (before my time) but I can tell you that in the gaming industry things change constantly and very quickly. At the time that statement was made it was true. Then along the line it was decided that JtL needed more and poof that statement is gone like the wind.








Yet here you say its been hectic from the JTL launch.

Of course, given SOE's record of lying this comes as no surprise to me.

Stuff dont make sense you know?

The squad leader proffession has had ZERO attention from the devs since launch. Its the least used proffession and by large, the most useless. Matter of fact I cant even remeber grouping with a squad leader in nearly a year...and bear in mind I play in Bria, biggest population server there is.



T







Yip! I agree you haven't been getting attention lately. Actually not much of any attention has been paid since publish 10 to anything other then bug fixes. Why? Because once JtL is out the door the loving begins.


I think you will be happy when you finally hear about Combat upgrade and what it does for your profession. Just hang in there and remember you may have heard things before but not from me


With that being said, NO, I will not answer any combat upgrade questions or go into further detail. Why? Because we aren't quite there just yet.









Tiggs,


I myself LOVE having you. I love the way you are direct and honest. I LOVE that about you!! Pls keep up the work...to me you have a lot of points atm. Please continue the way you are. I just can't say enough about how good it feels to have you answer simple questions even if its saying "hi i see it."



P.S. Can you tell JustG that I for one really appreciate his diaries!! I love having a better understand of what goes on with you all over there! i.e. not just ignoring us...(that means a lot) Great work!!!




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Blamj
Thu Oct 21, 2004 3:49 pm
#86

NJ62
Thu Oct 21, 2004 5:34 pm
#87






irott wrote:





TechnoCan wrote:
I would be carefull with holding Tiggs hostage... Team Hawtpants might allready be in position to free her







Pffft... your banned from my forums starting now.






So you mean that the official meter maid uniform isn't winged hawtpants?

And now the obligatory:

Team Hawtpants Pwns j00!


Uh oh. Please don't ticket my car....




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Blackferne
Thu Oct 21, 2004 5:35 pm
#88

Whether we like it our not as a community our fate is as follows: Wait for CB, then teh SL revamp sometime after that. And honestly if the CB is as paradigm changing as advertised, we would be smart to accept this timeline.


However, I notice my hostage responded quite often without addressing my demands. I'm cutting it down to the twinkies and chocolate milk.


/ticket n'jessi's car



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"No one plays SWG to be Uncle Owen" -Dallas Dickenson


AtriusSmith
Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:54 pm
#89

Back last August and October I wasa Master SL and 0/4/3/0 in BH. Nothing more annoying or hilarious than leading groups outside of Anchorhead into battle against Dewbacks and Squills. Like most I became a Squad Leader to "benefit" my guild and lead people into battle against the Empire, and like most, I was horribly disappointed. Making SL a real profession would definitely bring me back to the game that I haven't played since the beginning of summer. Props to the SLs still out there, keep the dream alive and help in those base raids since thats all our factions wanted us for lol.
ExDarthStorm
Fri Oct 22, 2004 12:18 am
#90


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Tiggs Wrote:


No, I didn't have to say anything thank you for noticing =)


Note to everyone here:


I see all over these forums where you just want honest answers. That is fine but understand that I will give it and as long as I get the respect for being honest and not trolls or flames for it. In all aspects of life including the games we love and love to hate we have to take good and bad. It is how this information is processed once it is received.You don't have to like what I say and you can hate me for it. But respect the fact that I was honest (perhaps maybe brutally honest at times) and gave you the information you requested.


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I couldn't agree with you more. Thanks again for the honest answers. Right now i think TH has seen what happens when he lies, and puts forth things from his mouth with out thinking about them, and i think that the people on the forums are starting to see what being civil and understanding about other PEOPLE's feelings get's them... keep in mind that the DEV's are other people as well, and they respond to the threats and the insults just as hard as any of us would. Think about it, would you be willing to be more responcive to a bunch of asshats that are on the forums posting this and that about how much the DEV's suck? No, i'd say screw you deal with it!


It's kind of weird, but i've started to notice a lot more of these constructive posts lately. Maybe all the lewtDooDz have decided to move on?


If dealing with SOE's BS for the last year has made that happen, then i congratulate SOE on getting rid of the rifraff and allowing the REAL players to step forward and start making a difference.


Maybe we can start here, with this pointed statement by Tiggs.


and yeah.. lol i'll spout a cheesy line.. "Can't we all just get along?!?!?"


Thanks again Tiggs..


All of Kettemoor thanks you...




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TechnoCan
Fri Oct 22, 2004 12:18 am
#91






irott wrote:





TechnoCan wrote:
I would be carefull with holding Tiggs hostage... Team Hawtpants might allready be in position to free her







Pffft... your banned from my forums starting now.




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