Squad Leader Archive
Thread: Banning of SL account for using form up command?
Jonaas wrote:
DiLune wrote:
The fundamental problem here is twofold. One, how in the world did someone manage 400 commands in 3 minutes? That's over 2 per second. Shouldn't happen. Two, SL cannot stop saying something when they use a command. I would love to see all combat professions have to say something everytime they use a special. The entire game would be lagged out. The low population of SL has kept this from creating lag of gigantic proportions I suppose. Perhaps its time to just get the spatial yells removed completely. Its not fair that the SL has to keep his combat commands to a minimum while any other combat profession can spam theirs at will.
And lay off CS. They are in a tough spot (how would any of you like your job to partially entail dealing with irate and often irrational people? Just because that's their job doesn't mean we should take advantage and heap more abuse on them.) I personally think telling someone to use their commands once every 30 seconds is pretty sketchy, but I don't think that means people should be flaming the CSR. You don't have to like what he said, but you also don't have to continue to attack him or CS in general. He didn't know, they don't know that /formup doesn't generate SL xp...so what? We know and we know how it sounds, but I won't hold someone else to my knowledge.
(yeah, I know its their job to know the game...its still no excuse to flame them...be disappointed? Sure...flaming...nah.)
Message Edited by DiLune on 07-20-2004 11:25 PM
busted logic! I work in a restaurant, if i under cook a piece of meat because i wasnt familiar with it, and someone gets food poisoning, thats my ass on the line. Ignorance is no excuse. If this is their job, they should no it inside and out, and if they dont know it, they should look for a new line of work
Message Edited by Jonaas on 07-21-2004 02:36 AM
Message Edited by Jonaas on 07-21-2004 02:37 AM
Getting physically ill - possibly dying - is not the same as losing out on a few days play time. If it ends up being a mistake that the person in question was suspended then yes it sucks but you can't compare those things.
Also, if your job is to cook food then you are going to be trained on the aspects of what you are making - but you don't have to memorize some 30 odd professions and how they work.
I was an EQ GM before I came to the SWG team, and yes I knew the game but I didn't know everything. I couldn't have told you how to do the necromancer epic, there are so many aspects to an MMO that someone simply cannot know everything. If you are at odds with the decision that's fine, but really don't bag on the CSRs- it's a hard job and there are a lot of things to keep track of. If anything this brings some attention to an issue that the SL profession faces and raises a level of discussion. Again, don't expect all of them to know everything - heck, I'm a dancer and I still couldn't tell you everything about being a dancer.
Jeassa wrote:
Getting physically ill - possibly dying - is not the same as losing out on a few days play time. If it ends up being a mistake that the person in question was suspended then yes it sucks but you can't compare those things.
Also, if your job is to cook food then you are going to be trained on the aspects of what you are making - but you don't have to memorize some 30 odd professions and how they work.
I was an EQ GM before I came to the SWG team, and yes I knew the game but I didn't know everything. I couldn't have told you how to do the necromancer epic, there are so many aspects to an MMO that someone simply cannot know everything. If you are at odds with the decision that's fine, but really don't bag on the CSRs- it's a hard job and there are a lot of things to keep track of. If anything this brings some attention to an issue that the SL profession faces and raises a level of discussion. Again, don't expect all of them to know everything - heck, I'm a dancer and I still couldn't tell you everything about being a dancer.
Jeassa wrote:
I was an EQ GM before I came to the SWG team, and yes I knew the game but I didn't know everything. I couldn't have told you how to do the necromancer epic, there are so many aspects to an MMO that someone simply cannot know everything. If you are at odds with the decision that's fine, but really don't bag on the CSRs- it's a hard job and there are a lot of things to keep track of. If anything this brings some attention to an issue that the SL profession faces and raises a level of discussion. Again, don't expect all of them to know everything - heck, I'm a dancer and I still couldn't tell you everything about being a dancer.
KardenTyrell wrote:
The player was given a warning, he neglected that warning, and said following up: I will continiu to spam. THATS why he was suspended, and it was a legitimate one.
BruceE-SOE wrote:
Hello folks,
No one has been banned. The difference between banning and suspension is that if you are banned, your account is forfeit and you will not be able to play it again. A suspension is a temporary lock out of your account ranging from three to ten days.
While I cannot give details about an account to anyone other than the account owner, I can tell you what kinds of actions will cause an account to be suspended in these circumstances.
We all understand how the Squad Leader profession works and that the commands are done via public channels. A situation becomes disruption when commands are being spammed in heavily populated areas. If a CSR asks you to please move to a less populated area or to notexecute the commands so frequently, you are expected to comply. An example of what is too frequent would be over 400 commands in a three minute time frame. If you think something may be construed as excessive, then it most likely is excessive and all we ask is for everyone to be considerate of others and not cause a disruption. If you refuse to comply with a CSR, you do risk having action taken against your account, ranging from a warning all the way up to account suspension or eventermination if the violation is serious enough.
So, with all of that said, please respect others and try to avoid doing something that is going to generate harassment tickets against you and possibly get you in trouble.
Jeassa wrote:
Also, if your job is to cook food then you are going to be trained on the aspects of what you are making - but you don't have to memorize some 30 odd professions and how they work.
I was an EQ GM before I came to the SWG team, and yes I knew the game but I didn't know everything.
Message Edited by Tref on 07-21-2004 06:44 AM
2.Despite the fact I don’t disagree with the CSR’s approach to the situation, I would still say always comply with there directions.
3.If you want to macro the command’s as a SL as the player in question obviously did, you always need to remember to place the 1 second pause in there ;-) /pause 1
4.The saddest part about all of this to me is that SL is so lacking in abilities or effectiveness that its so unpopular that this doesn’t come up as a problem daily, sure look forward to the revamp some day.