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Thread: Poll: Do want to pick your slice?

Hvzeda
Tue May 04, 2004 3:17 pm
#105


B



but then again, this is not a scientific poll, but convenient poll.





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pull out my last pet from my creature handler days
and dance in an empty cantina in Mos Espa and disconnect from the game forever.
novakaine
Tue May 04, 2004 3:21 pm
#106






Cinergy wrote:

So when someone disagrees with you its posturing and bullcrap? Nice.....the reason the there is so much more traffic on this board of late is that people know the revamp is coming up so they want to find information and contribute feedback. Thisis going to lead to differences of opinion so if you are going to call everyone that disagrees with you a BSer or accuse them of posturing you might as well make a macro for it.


Btw you completely ignored my question where I asked for the reasons why a more casual and less fanatical group of smugglers (ones who dont visit or post on the boards) would be in favor of random slicing?


In fact I have yet to run into a single person in game, smugglers andnon smugglers alike, that is against p.a.s. The balls in your court....





I dont think anyone said that casual gamers would be against it. But we wont know because they weren't included in the poll. There lies the problem with forum polls.


And even if 100% of the community were for it, that doesn't make it a good thing. Poll every one if they would like SOE to put 10mil credits in everyones bank and I'm sure we would see a majority of "A" votes.





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dirlook
Tue May 04, 2004 3:21 pm
#107

B
Ipseck
Tue May 04, 2004 3:25 pm
#108



Cinergy wrote:
So when someone disagrees with you its posturing and bullcrap? Nice.....the reason the there is so much more traffic on this board of late is that people know the revamp is coming up so they want to find information and contribute feedback. Thisis going to lead to differences of opinion so if you are going to call everyone that disagrees with you a BSer or accuse them of posturing you might as well make a macro for it.
Btw you completely ignored my question where I asked for the reasons why a more casual and less fanatical group of smugglers (ones who dont visit or post on the boards) would be in favor of random slicing?
In fact I have yet to run into a single person in game, smugglers and non smugglers alike, that is against p.a.s. The balls in your court....





sigh. I never said disagreeing with me was posturing and bullcrap. I said alot of whats going on in the smuggler forum right now is posturing and bullcrap. No one seems to want real, thought-out answers, they just want their way and they want it now. And you called me illiterate.

You're right. I did ignore it, because its pure bait. By its very nature everyone will 'want' P.A.S. except weaponsmiths/armorsmiths/smugglers, because it saves them time and money. Now you have to ask yourself, is player feedback what purely what they should be making their decisions based on? Or would the long term effects on PvP, the economy and general player issues have more importance to such a decision.

You also ignored my earlier post about 'what about the grey area'. So what about it?





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Cinergy
Tue May 04, 2004 3:28 pm
#109






novakaine wrote:





Cinergy wrote:

So when someone disagrees with you its posturing and bullcrap? Nice.....the reason the there is so much more traffic on this board of late is that people know the revamp is coming up so they want to find information and contribute feedback. Thisis going to lead to differences of opinion so if you are going to call everyone that disagrees with you a BSer or accuse them of posturing you might as well make a macro for it.


Btw you completely ignored my question where I asked for the reasons why a more casual and less fanatical group of smugglers (ones who dont visit or post on the boards) would be in favor of random slicing?


In fact I have yet to run into a single person in game, smugglers andnon smugglers alike, that is against p.a.s. The balls in your court....





I dont think anyone said that casual gamers would be against it. But we wont know because they weren't included in the poll. There lies the problem with forum polls.


And even if 100% of the community were for it, that doesn't make it a good thing. Poll every one if they would like SOE to put 10mil credits in everyones bank and I'm sure we would see a majority of "A" votes.








I also mentioned that earlier, its a matter of feasability and game balance. One thing we can all agree on is giving everyone 10 mil is bad for game balance. How is letting us choose our slice at masterbad for game balance? I see no correlation.




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novakaine
Tue May 04, 2004 3:36 pm
#110

I take ityou don't think there is already too much power in the hands of PCs. How much power does anyone need? The Devs are constantly having to find ways to make mobs more of a challange. No one should be able to solo a krayt period. Last night as a wookiee in wooden armor I soloed two kimos at once. Should I be able to? I dont think so. More power in player hands mean more nerfs down the road.






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Cinergy
Tue May 04, 2004 3:49 pm
#111

Of course I don't want to base game decision solely on player feedback. When I analyze what p.a.s. would do to the GCW, economy and general player issues I see no large problems.


How will it effect the GCW? There will be more quality weapons floating around...they will not be any better than what is currently in game there will just be more of them. P.A.S. will not increase the amount of Krayt Weps or other enhanced weps.


How will it affect the economy? We might make a little less money on slicing, weaponsmiths will make less on regulr weapons since people will not have to buy as many. However, I think people will pay more for Krayt and other special weapons since they know they will be able to get a damage slice.


General player issues? I dont see any glaring ones...


As far as the grey area....that is a decent idea except that if, for example, I have a 75% chance to get a damage slice and I get a speed slice then my customer will be even MORE disappointed than he would have been under the random system. That is what I want to avoid.





Corran H.- Master Smuggler

Ittsa Trap- Haven't Respec'ed Yet...


lisasdarren
Tue May 04, 2004 4:06 pm
#112






novakaine wrote:

Not to mention that 75 respondents is a pathetic sample.





Actually for anyone who knows anything about statistics you only need a sample size of over 25 to validly represent the population that sample was taken from.








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fatal-one-
Tue May 04, 2004 4:52 pm
#113

A



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TheWeaponsmith
Tue May 04, 2004 5:04 pm
#114

A.



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Mor-Dan
Tue May 04, 2004 7:23 pm
#115



fatal-one- wrote:
A





w00t! fatal voted for A = )

i, too, am in favor of a more intricate system than clamp, snip, snip. the format outlined by our Correspondent would actually make weapons BETTER than a straight speed or damage slice. i really don't care if it is a stright this or that. what i want is what every other profession has. a chance to affect the outcome. right now both % and attribute are random (and really attribute isn't very random. our server is experiencing 66% speed, 33% damage). i just want to be able to have some influence on either the % with the chances being a legit 50/50, or on whether or not it will be damage or speed. my preference is to pick speed or damage. i will settle for anything that allows me an influence.



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SmoothJazzMan
Tue May 04, 2004 8:00 pm
#116

B; Leave it Random its more fun that way


Dor'cha Faldo


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KaiRan
Tue May 04, 2004 8:17 pm
#117

A but not a 100%. maybe a 75/25? Perhaps requireing an additional piece of equipment... and make it expensive enough to make those slices worth something!



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