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Thread: Poll: Do want to pick your slice?
novakaine
Tue May 04, 2004 12:38 pm
#92
Vote withdrawn as Mor-Dan seems to be a bit of a Cheat. Adding A votes as you see fit just isn't cricket
Message Edited by novakaine on 05-04-2004 11:19 AM
Cinergy
Tue May 04, 2004 1:28 pm
#94
Currently the results are:
A: 51
B: 24
Player feedback is supposed to be a driving force in this game....on the subject of p.a.s. it is clear a majority of players support something of this type. I don't think it could be any clearer. Like I said earlier..this isnt a scientific survey, but it IS a good indicator of what players want. Lord maxx.....the main issue with your post and why it holds absoutely no credence is feasability and game balance. Having a command to unlock a jedi slot or increasing the slicing range dramatically like you said is something that is OBVIOUSLY bad for the game and would cause many problems. Letting a master smuggler pick their slice is bad for the game in what way? It may be bad for your pocketbook but lets get above the greed mentality for a minute and think about what makes for a happier customer base. I mentioned earlier....slicing is not meant to be a game balancing mechanism (if it is then we have much bigger problems to deal with) so don't try to claim that having random slices keep the game balanced, thats not our job, thats the devs job.
Message Edited by Cinergy on 05-04-2004 01:29 PM
Ipseck
Tue May 04, 2004 1:32 pm
#95
wow, yes its so clear that a majority of players want pick a slice, givin your scientific sampling of SEVENTY FIVE FRICKIN PEOPLE.
good lord.
good lord.
Message Edited by Ipseck on 05-04-2004 01:32 PM
KozakMamalyga
Tue May 04, 2004 1:33 pm
#96
B.
Unless slicer would be given an ability to choose the % the item would besliced. (Joke)
Seriously this will greately effect economy and not in a good way.
Mish
Message Edited by KozakMamalyga on 05-04-2004 01:33 PM
novakaine
Tue May 04, 2004 1:38 pm
#98
Cinergy wrote:
Currently the results are:
A: 51
B: 24
Player feedback is supposed to be a driving force in this game....on the subject of p.a.s. it is clear a majority of players support something of this type. I don't think it could be any clearer. Like I said earlier..this isnt a scientific survey, but it IS a good indicator of what players want. Lord maxx.....the main issue with your post and why it holds absoutely no credence is feasability and game balance. Having a command to unlock a jedi slot or increasing the slicing range dramatically like you said is something that is OBVIOUSLY bad for the game and would cause many problems. Letting a master smuggler pick their slice is bad for the game in what way? It may be bad for your pocketbook but lets get above the greed mentality for a minute and think about what makes for a happier customer base. I mentioned earlier....slicing is not meant to be a game balancing mechanism (if it is then we have much bigger problems to deal with) so don't try to claim that having random slices keep the game balanced, thats not our job, thats the devs job.
Message Edited by Cinergy on 05-04-2004 01:29 PM
It seems to be...but is it? How many of those As were really Cs? And how many respondents are smugglers and not WSs and ASs? This is our "revamp", not theirs. Of course non smugglers want this. Polls on forums are meaningless. People who post on forums are typicaly not representitive of the player base. They tend to be powergamers and what not. This poll in particular is seriously flawed.
Not to mention that 75 respondents is a pathetic sample.
Cinergy
Tue May 04, 2004 2:31 pm
#99
I suggest you guys go back and read where I said this is OBVIOUSLY not a scientific survey.I also suggest you go back and read in an earlier results post where I said I discounted everyone that put down C.....illiteracy can be fixed, practice actually READING the posts.
To dispute that a mjority of smugglers would support p.a.s. is pointless. The only basis we have for results is this thread and the other thread where it seems a mjority do support it. Do you guys really think that the more casual gamers and people who arent as fanatical about the profession as we are would be against it? How so?
novakaine
Tue May 04, 2004 2:51 pm
#100
With the utmost respect, I have to ask if you have been a smuggler very long? The reason I ask is because the smuggler community prides itself on the respect we show each other on these boards. As you notice we tend to be a mostly flame free community. Since no one has flamed you, and you just dissed me,I suspect you must be new here.
But my reading comprehension is quite good thank you.Did you happen to discount the non smugglers?
Unstable1
Tue May 04, 2004 2:53 pm
#101
A, wholeheartedly.
Smugglers should be allowed to choose their slice.
wouldn't it suck if you came to me for a buff, and i buffed you six times (for 6 stats) and you wound with up 1 strength buff for 1000pts, 2 constitution buffs for 2000pts, 3 action buffs for 1800pts, and no health, quickness or stamina buffs? would my service be worth as much?
if i owned a premium weapon and knew that i could go to a master smuggler and get a guaranteed damage slice, i'd have no problem payig 50k for that slice. chew on that.
-Unstable
tkm/doc
Cinergy
Tue May 04, 2004 3:00 pm
#102
Sorry if I came off strong in that post but it infuriates me to have people use something as counter argument that I already qualified earlier in a post. As I mentioned previously, I have been a smuggler since about the 3rd week of release and was one of the first masters on Bloodfin.
I did not discount the non smugglers that voted because as I said before, they are fuly entitled to have an opinion on th subject. I fully respect the smuggler community and everyone in it, I do not however, respect fallacious arguments.
Ipseck
Tue May 04, 2004 3:03 pm
#103
Cinergy wrote:I suggest you guys go back and read where I said this is OBVIOUSLY not a scientific survey. I also suggest you go back and read in an earlier results post where I said I discounted everyone that put down C.....illiteracy can be fixed, practice actually READING the posts.To dispute that a mjority of smugglers would support p.a.s. is pointless. The only basis we have for results is this thread and the other thread where it seems a mjority do support it. Do you guys really think that the more casual gamers and people who arent as fanatical about the profession as we are would be against it? How so?
If its "OBVIOUSLY not a scientific survey" don't parade around saying "obviously its what the players want". You can't say "this poll doesn't count" and then turn around and say "see? this poll backs up my claims!!!!! My idea rules!" without being a hypocrite.
seriously. I'm getting fed up with all the posturing and bullcrap floating around this forum atm.
Message Edited by Ipseck on 05-04-2004 03:05 PM
Cinergy
Tue May 04, 2004 3:14 pm
#104
So when someone disagrees with you its posturing and bullcrap? Nice.....the reason the there is so much more traffic on this board of late is that people know the revamp is coming up so they want to find information and contribute feedback. Thisis going to lead to differences of opinion so if you are going to call everyone that disagrees with you a BSer or accuse them of posturing you might as well make a macro for it.
Btw you completely ignored my question where I asked for the reasons why a more casual and less fanatical group of smugglers (ones who dont visit or post on the boards) would be in favor of random slicing?
In fact I have yet to run into a single person in game, smugglers andnon smugglers alike, that is against p.a.s. The balls in your court....