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Thread: SLICING Don't break my weapon, please
La-grange wrote:
AngusMacGregor wrote:
Was it really so hard to comprehend? If you didn't want to take a chance on the weapon breaking... you didn't have to get it sliced.
Considering how low the increases are with the new slicing system, slicing isn't a "gotta have it" thing, anyway. Getting an illegal sliceis just a little boost.
But since people will whine about anything that seems a little risky, we get our watered-down slicing system watered-down even more.
Oh I comprehend the post tiggs made perfectly.
And So'ren is a Msmuggler so im not worried about that. La-grange my jedi doesn't have anything that can be sliced so again I am not worried about either toon. I am not going to reduce the reliability of anyones weapons for profit. Plain and simple.
Real life example using firearms. If i mount a scope on my rifle to increase precision (yes there is a difference between precision and accuracy) of my shooting. The I would expect my rifle to function as it oncedid with the exception ofplacing the bullets I shoot closer together onmy target. If I have a trigger job done on that rifle to lighten the pull then I would expect my rifle to functionthe same as before with the exception of having a light trigger which would futher increase my precision. If my rifle broke due to these modifications and not due to abuse then the person who made these modifications would end up in court and I would end up with a nice settlement.Cars, computers, whatever. When you make a modification to increase perfomance you expect things to work as before. If you have repeat customers due to part breakage then that leads to a loss in sales, therefore bad business.
Message Edited by La-grange on 06-23-2005 06:42 AM
Ok, for starters, your "real-life" example sucks. It's not even close to being the same. Want a good "real-life" example? Check this out:
You have an AR-15. Now, an AR-15 is pretty much just an M-16 rifle that can't go full-auto.... unless you have it illegally modified. No reputable gunsmith will do this for you, because IT'S FRIGGIN' ILLEGAL!!!
To illegally modify this weapon is fairly simple, if you know how. It involves drilling a small hole through the housing and placing a pin (which has to be made or found through illegal means). Now, you're just an average joe, and you don't know how to do it, but you know this shady guy who does, and will do it for you... for a price. So you pay him to do it.
Now, after taking it out in the woods and shooting stuff full-auto all weekend, your illegally modified AR-15 jams up and doesn't fire. Yeah, kinda disappointing, but you know you can take it back to your shady friend to get fixed up. You wouldn't take this guy to court over it, like you stated above, because you had it modified illegally, and they'd lock you up right next to your pal, there.
Of course, you could have saved yourself the hassle by not letting your friend fiddle with your weapon, but hey... full-auto just kicks ass, right?
Your argument doesn't hold water.
They've removed breaking now eh?
Amazing.
Obviously, and as was stated earlier by other posters the breakage was taken out because the code is screwed. Once it's out I'm pretty positive it won't ever come back so while I admire the optimism of some - don't hold your breath.
Ahhh I still remember JFreeman coming into this forum to tell us confidently that the code is done! Whooo!! Code is done, that must mean it's perfect!! /sigh
Iain - your example with the AR-15 was bang on mate! It seems that a lot of people view slicing as a necessary part of the game, they must get it if they want to pwn - and if they must get it, then it mustn't fail otherwise they'll scream to high heaven, or their mommy - whichever is closer at the time I suppose.
Even though I'm not surprised, I am terribly disappointed yet again.
Cheers
Dat
XStarbracer wrote:
I've been a smuggler longer then 99% of you noobs, i know whats best for the profession and this isnt it.
Can it junior.
I followed your postings,..considered your ideas. Then I considered the posts like the one above.
You know what's best? You don't know jack, especially if you think calling your fellow Smugglers morons will help people to see your point. What you've done is convince people you are right - a right clown shoe.
As proposed, a weapon/armor would not be broken forever. Temporarily out of commission till a Smuggler can fix it. Since it was not working this way, it was removed. I can tell you that your posts had absolutley zero effect on the dev's decision. Why? Dev's don't bother to read remarks made by someone calling others morons.
Retarded because we have waited so long? Tired of waiting yes, but retarded? No, what is retarted is you claiming to be THE Master Smuggler who knows best.
It's not how long you've been a Smuggler, its what you contribute to the profession. And in that respect XStarbracer, you are a noob.
Datink_Nieleft wrote: What you've done is convince people you are right - a right clown shoe.
QFE
La-grange wrote:
AngusMacGregor wrote:
Was it really so hard to comprehend? If you didn't want to take a chance on the weapon breaking... you didn't have to get it sliced.
Considering how low the increases are with the new slicing system, slicing isn't a "gotta have it" thing, anyway. Getting an illegal sliceis just a little boost.
But since people will whine about anything that seems a little risky, we get our watered-down slicing system watered-down even more.
Oh I comprehend the post tiggs made perfectly.
And So'ren is a Msmuggler so im not worried about that. La-grange my jedi doesn't have anything that can be sliced so again I am not worried about either toon. I am not going to reduce the reliability of anyones weapons for profit. Plain and simple.
Real life example using firearms. If i mount a scope on my rifle to increase precision (yes there is a difference between precision and accuracy) of my shooting. The I would expect my rifle to function as it oncedid with the exception ofplacing the bullets I shoot closer together onmy target. If I have a trigger job done on that rifle to lighten the pull then I would expect my rifle to functionthe same as before with the exception of having a light trigger which would futher increase my precision. If my rifle broke due to these modifications and not due to abuse then the person who made these modifications would end up in court and I would end up with a nice settlement.Cars, computers, whatever. When you make a modification to increase perfomance you expect things to work as before. If you have repeat customers due to part breakage then that leads to a loss in sales, therefore bad business.
Message Edited by La-grange on 06-23-2005 06:42 AM
AngusMacGregor wrote:
But since people will whine about anything that seems a little risky, we get our watered-down slicing system watered-down even more.
XStarbracer wrote:
Your all proving your noobs, Whine more about breaking being taken out, and cancel your accounts. I hope guys enjoy Wow, while the Real Smugglers stay in SWG with a large customer base now. You guys are the ones who know Jack, SOE seems to agree breakage is bad.
dude, you don't even know the difference between You're and Your. don't come here calling the rest of your Smuggler community a bunch of noobs.
what makes you more of a "Real Smuggler"? the fact that you don't like a good risk/reward system? yeah you sound about as daring as an old lady.
HOTDOG wrote:
You people DO realize that your weapon wouldn't be broken forever, right? You would have been able to take it somewhere to get it fixed.
I hope they don't back down from this because people are to simple to understand how severely temporary a broken weapon/armor would be.
But then- why should logic stand in the way of everyone's mad dash for mediocrity.
QFE
XStarbracer wrote:
Its akin to forcing people to see Dancers all the time because of BF (which too thankfully is being put to a stop), theres no need to force people to pay us all the time, thats like making defective items, bad business.
So are you saying you want to play the game withut relying on another player for anything?
XStarbracer wrote:
Your all proving your noobs, Whine more about breaking being taken out, and cancel your accounts. I hope guys enjoy Wow, while the Real Smugglers stay in SWG with a large customer base now. You guys are the ones who know Jack, SOE seems to agree breakage is bad.
They didnt agree breakage was bad - they agreed breakage was not giving the effect they desired it to have. You are assuming too much. You dont know that the breakage was permanently removed or just removed because it was impedeing on the testing of the game, maybe it was bugged beyond belief - after repairing the weapons that were "out of tune" their condition was at 0. I'd say thats a pretty strong bug to fix before implementing it.
XStarbracer wrote:
I've been a smuggler longer then 99% of you noobs, i know whats best for the profession and this isnt it.
wo0t! i'm in that 1%!!!
u no0b!!1!