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AngusMacGregor wrote:

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La-grange wrote:

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AngusMacGregor wrote:

Was it really so hard to comprehend? If you didn't want to take a chance on the weapon breaking... you didn't have to get it sliced.

Considering how low the increases are with the new slicing system, slicing isn't a "gotta have it" thing, anyway. Getting an illegal sliceis just a little boost.

But since people will whine about anything that seems a little risky, we get our watered-down slicing system watered-down even more.

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Oh I comprehend the post tiggs made perfectly.

And So'ren is a Msmuggler so im not worried about that. La-grange my jedi doesn't have anything that can be sliced so again I am not worried about either toon. I am not going to reduce the reliability of anyones weapons for profit. Plain and simple.

Real life example using firearms. If i mount a scope on my rifle to increase precision (yes there is a difference between precision and accuracy) of my shooting. The I would expect my rifle to function as it oncedid with the exception ofplacing the bullets I shoot closer together onmy target. If I have a trigger job done on that rifle to lighten the pull then I would expect my rifle to functionthe same as before with the exception of having a light trigger which would futher increase my precision. If my rifle broke due to these modifications and not due to abuse then the person who made these modifications would end up in court and I would end up with a nice settlement.Cars, computers, whatever. When you make a modification to increase perfomance you expect things to work as before. If you have repeat customers due to part breakage then that leads to a loss in sales, therefore bad business.

Message Edited by La-grange on 06-23-2005 06:42 AM

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Ok, for starters, your "real-life" example sucks. It's not even close to being the same. Want a good "real-life" example? Check this out:

You have an AR-15. Now, an AR-15 is pretty much just an M-16 rifle that can't go full-auto.... unless you have it illegally modified. No reputable gunsmith will do this for you, because IT'S FRIGGIN' ILLEGAL!!! Ever hear of a class 3 firearms license. Yes it is very legal. All aside ever hear of "bump firing"? Get the same effect without having to modify the weapon.

To illegally modify this weapon is fairly simple, if you know how. It involves drilling a small hole through the housing and placing a pin (which has to be made or found through illegal means). Now, you're just an average joe, and you don't know how to do it, but you know this shady guy who does, and will do it for you... for a price. So you pay him to do it. Actually it is different with every weapon I encounter. Can I as an "average joe" do it myself. You bet. Will I? Heck no.

Now, after taking it out in the woods and shooting stuff full-auto all weekend, your illegally modified AR-15 jams up and doesn't fire. Yeah, kinda disappointing, but you know you can take it back to your shady friend to get fixed up. You wouldn't take this guy to court over it, like you stated above, because you had it modified illegally, and they'd lock you up right next to your pal, there. The AR-15/M-16 jams anyways unless you keep it immaculate. As long as its clean it will function flawlessly. The same can be said about all weapons. Heck as reliable as my glock 22 has been for me over the past five years I still encounter a jam every now and then.Now if you have the money to shoot that illegally modified AR-15 all weekend then youmost likely have the money todestroy the current weapon you own and buy a newone and start from scratch.Unfortunately if you have been shooting that weapon like I think you have been shooting it then your "shady" friend doesn't stand a snowballs chance in hades of fixing that weapon.

Of course, you could have saved yourself the hassle by not letting your friend fiddle with your weapon, but hey... full-auto just kicks ass, right? Waste of ammo bud. Speaking from personal experience. Sure military surplus is pretty cheap but why bother. Unfortunately the modifications in the game have legal equivalents in real life as full auto doesn't exist in game. Scopes, trigger jobs, re-boring the weapon for a larger cartrige for greater power. Just three real life LEGAL examples of how to modify your weapon to shoot faster, more accurately, and with greater power.

Your argument doesn't hold water. Actually mine holds up. Yours is flawed.

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Message Edited by La-grange on 06-23-2005 06:42 PM

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La-grange wrote:

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AngusMacGregor wrote:

Ok, for starters, your "real-life" example sucks. It's not even close to being the same. Want a good "real-life" example? Check this out:

You have an AR-15. Now, an AR-15 is pretty much just an M-16 rifle that can't go full-auto.... unless you have it illegally modified. No reputable gunsmith will do this for you, because IT'S FRIGGIN' ILLEGAL!!! Ever hear of a class 3 firearms license. Yes it is very legal. All aside ever hear of "bump firing"? Get the same effect without having to modify the weapon. It's not legal if you aren't licensed. You're nitpicking here.

To illegally modify this weapon is fairly simple, if you know how. It involves drilling a small hole through the housing and placing a pin (which has to be made or found through illegal means). Now, you're just an average joe, and you don't know how to do it, but you know this shady guy who does, and will do it for you... for a price. So you pay him to do it. Actually it is different with every weapon I encounter. Can I as an "average joe" do it myself. You bet. Will I? Heck no.If you can do it, by definition, you aren't an "average joe". Once again, nitpicking.

Now, after taking it out in the woods and shooting stuff full-auto all weekend, your illegally modified AR-15 jams up and doesn't fire. Yeah, kinda disappointing, but you know you can take it back to your shady friend to get fixed up. You wouldn't take this guy to court over it, like you stated above, because you had it modified illegally, and they'd lock you up right next to your pal, there. The AR-15/M-16 jams anyways unless you keep it immaculate. As long as its clean it will function flawlessly. The same can be said about all weapons. Heck as reliable as my glock 22 has been for me over the past five years I still encounter a jam every now and then.Now if you have the money to shoot that illegally modified AR-15 all weekend then youmost likely have the money todestroy the current weapon you own and buy a newone and start from scratch.Unfortunately if you have been shooting that weapon like I think you have been shooting it then your "shady" friend doesn't stand a snowballs chance in hades of fixing that weapon.Ok, this whole reply really has nothing to do with anything that was said previously.

Of course, you could have saved yourself the hassle by not letting your friend fiddle with your weapon, but hey... full-auto just kicks ass, right? Waste of ammo bud. Speaking from personal experience. Sure military surplus is pretty cheap but why bother. Unfortunately the modifications in the game have legal equivalents in real life as full auto doesn't exist in game. Scopes, trigger jobs, re-boring the weapon for a larger cartrige for greater power. Just three real life LEGAL examples of how to modify your weapon to shoot faster, more accurately, and with greater power. See.. the whole point here is to compare a virtual real-life example about illegally modifying a weapon, which is the whole point of Slicing. But you seem to want to keep de-railing the whole conversation toward legal modifications. That's not Slicing, that's a powerup.

Your argument doesn't hold water. Actually mine holds up. Yours is flawed. Only in your mind, bud.

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However, since "breaking" has been taking out of the new system (feel free to rejoice) all of this is a moot point anyway, eh?

Message Edited by AngusMacGregor on 06-23-2005 10:09 PM

Don't want breakage? Don't have your weapon sliced. Simple as that.

I don't care if this isn't profitable, if it's an advantage I can use in combatagainstnonsmugglers. That makes perfect sense to me.

-Zz

Please excuse the question redundancy if this has already been asked, but there's TMUI in this thread and I don't have timeto read everypost.

A weapon that's been sliced for max dmg with an illegal booster core breaks. Do I take it to any ol' smuggler to have it fixed or does it need to bea master? Will the max dmg slice need to be"re-sliced"afterit getsrepaired?

Thx

lol....all the ranting taking place in this thread and I missed the most important part.

Thx

Message Edited by Antonnio on 07-07-2005 09:16 PM

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