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Thread: Nerf call for Last Ditch

Votiva
Fri May 13, 2005 10:59 am
#79



GanymedePharuu wrote:


Votiva wrote:
I just thought of something, what's Wes gonna say when he see's how we've been behaving?




we're just standing up for what we KNOW is right.

funny how the "Guardians of peace and justice" often act less honorable than the "Scum and villany".




Oh no don't get me wrong I wasn't saying it like it was a bad thing. Just wondering if we'll get cookies or something that's all /shrug



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GanymedePharuu
Fri May 13, 2005 11:02 am
#80



Votiva wrote:


GanymedePharuu wrote:


Votiva wrote:
I just thought of something, what's Wes gonna say when he see's how we've been behaving?




we're just standing up for what we KNOW is right.

funny how the "Guardians of peace and justice" often act less honorable than the "Scum and villany".




Oh no don't get me wrong I wasn't saying it like it was a bad thing. Just wondering if we'll get cookies or something that's all /shrug




hehe i know... mmm cookies?



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Onahj_Zicohr
Fri May 13, 2005 11:41 am
#81

We are the scum and villainy why are we so NICE....

/rant_on

Tell that WHINY Jedi to put down that STINKING NERF BAT and learn how to fight.

/rant_off

I do mean every word of my thoughts for removing Jedi from the GCW. Have a nice day!



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dlc3007
Fri May 13, 2005 11:44 am
#82

I would like to thank/congrat all the smugglers who have pretty much hijacked and dominated this post on the Jedi board. Next they'll be crying for a nerf on Smugglers to keep them from posting in the Jediforum.


Well Done!



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MISTagent01
Fri May 13, 2005 11:54 am
#83




dlc3007 wrote:

I would like to thank/congrat all the smugglers who have pretty much hijacked and dominated this post on the Jedi board. Next they'll be crying for a nerf on Smugglers to keep them from posting in the Jediforum.


Well Done!





Too late.




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That magic is gone now, but I'd pay 50 bucks a month to have it back.

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GanymedePharuu
Fri May 13, 2005 11:55 am
#84



MISTagent01 wrote:

dlc3007 wrote:
I would like to thank/congrat all the smugglers who have pretty much hijacked and dominated this post on the Jedi board. Next they'll be crying for a nerf on Smugglers to keep them from posting in the Jediforum.
Well Done!

Too late.






blast! you beat me to it!!!



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I wanted Smuggling for Christmas
but all i got was
<--- this stupid hat.

I am Jack's ignored profession.
Luke Skywalker is DEAD!
xTekx
Fri May 13, 2005 12:01 pm
#85

It looks like this is going to erupt into a big debate debacle. Big thread going on the jedi boards. I posted my thoughts there to.



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Erryc
Fri May 13, 2005 12:05 pm
#86

The Jedi whine about so much, it will be overlooked, as it should be. Heavens forbid someone but the glowbats get a nice attack for once...


Sorry if this subject irritates me, but I'm sick of the guns being aimed at us.



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xTekx
Fri May 13, 2005 12:10 pm
#87

I know exactly how you feel. I feel the same way. I was fuming when the FD nerf hit us, as people on my vent server can attest to. They took a perfectly good tactic that is smuggler by right and made it worthless in pvp. Took a tactic away that I used with success on a few occasions. Not all, but enough. And now they want to do the same thing with LD.



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DARTHBAYLOR
Fri May 13, 2005 12:39 pm
#88

f*****g jedi , all their whining has done is made me pick up bh so I can annoy em.



and ive got plenty of cheese for their whine



bring it!!!!!






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Votiva
Fri May 13, 2005 12:40 pm
#89

I swear, every day I log into the game or the boards and I find another reason to hate Jedi. I think it's time we start fighting back against them.



Raquin Votiva: Master Smuggler, Master Pistoleer, Master Smart@ss

--Leia Hologram: "Help me Obi Wan Kenobi, you're my only hope."
--Obi Wan accepts the quest.
--Quest Recieved: < Alderaan : Contact Bail Organna >

Rock is dead, long live paper and scissors!

HOTDOG
Fri May 13, 2005 1:04 pm
#90

Sorry Ris, I disagree.


A Jedi, at anytime can RUN from someone they suspect is about to use Last Ditch.

You can't do a good LD unless your health is down.


Beyond that, they can keep their opponent KD'd so they can't even use LD (or even any of the other states to reduce the chance that LD will land).


BEYOND THAT, they can eat foods that make sure their incap time is short so they can DB the Smuggler (who is most likely going to incap when they use LD).


BEYOND EVEN THAT, they can earn rewards, like Hero Quest items that help them avoid incaps or recover immediately from incaps.


BEYOND THAT AGAIN, - Don't Jedi have an avoid incap ability?

And a Cloak ability- So you can't even see them to shoot them?

And a Force Run ability- So while they are beating the snot outta someone they could take the opportunity to run 2x the speed of a swoop and get the hell out of there?


You see.

I don't think ANYTHING needs to be done to Last Ditch.

Don't move it.

Don't cap it.

And sure as hell DON'T NERF IT!






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chaos77
Fri May 13, 2005 1:09 pm
#91


FWIW, add one more jedi to stick up for smugglers getting anything BUT nerfed. Granted, I was a master smuggler from about 4 weeks into game until I needed to start dropping it for jedi skills (ground 27 additional profs, and only time I had dropped smuggler comletely was to master BH - in the master scout days) and still RP much more the smuggler than a jedi... in truth, I only started the jedi path because I was reasonably sure I could get it and finish it before the smuggler revamp. I was a smuggler when I started jedi. I watched hundreds of new jedi go out and grind smuggler for FD, only to get it nerfed (gah, the jedi community gets on my nerves sometimes...) Hey, I'm just happy I can use my spider-featherweight FWG5 again.



Last Ditch does NOT need to be nerfed. It can most certainly be improved with only pluses for smugglers. There are other skills in the game with 3 tiers, with the best version being available in the master box. Why not last ditch? Something for the dabblers, and then something better for the TRUE Smugglers. Honestly, the other specials could use some love too. What about panic shot? Remember that before the delay nerf?


Having played WoW, and seen the Dominate and Fear abiltiies in that game, I can say it would not be impossible to turn panic shot into a true panic shot. Make it truly make your opponent dive for cover, in a random direction. A delay on their attack, or whatever, doesn't do anything to change the fact that the player still has the ability to strategize, and be ready to hit keys as soon as their delay is over. Takes a lot more to jump back into a fight after diving beneath a hail of blaster fire.



More smuggler love: slicing. The code is in the game for bio-linking factional armor. Same should be available in the slicing discipline for smugglers, allowing them to link a personal weapon, and slice it better than a non-linked weapon. WHAT smuggler is going to slice someone else's stuff as good as their own? WHERE in any of the movies or EU did you see Han, Lando, Talon, or Mara shouting to the masses "now slicing weapons and armor!" Nowhere. Cause any modifications were done to their own stuff to give them an edge.



And really, shouldn't smugglers get a boost to burst run? I mean, come on!



Just remember; No gnerfs is good gnerfs. With Gary Gnerf.


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