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Thread: Just a Quote & Clicky that Makes me a Sad Smuggler *Tiggs Posted Within*
Cloudchasing wrote:
Hmmm...
what do I want?
what do I want?
what do I want?
what do I want?
I want every idea that I've had. I want every idea that I've read in this forum and said to myself " Now THAT is freaking cool!!" I want to get chased by BHs and have a damn good reason they are chasing me. (too much to say what I want)
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*muffled voice box* Total iv sh' sh'-sh'ee 'evan. E pull to uh se'on' win'ow. *muffled voice box off*
Cloud is teh pwn 
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=smuggler&message.id=130148
What makes you think they aren't using those as a starting point for the revamp, then they'll eventually release their version with modifications for comment? As was stated, you don't really want them coming up now and saying "so, what do you want?" you want them to take your proposals and run with them which doesn't happen overnight, so they STARTED with your docs and will ask for feedback when they're ready.
LastEE wrote:
I see several revam proposals here
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=smuggler&message.id=130148
What makes you think they aren't using those as a starting point for the revamp, then they'll eventually release their version with modifications for comment? As was stated, you don't really want them coming up now and saying "so, what do you want?" you want them to take your proposals and run with them which doesn't happen overnight, so they STARTED with your docs and will ask for feedback when they're ready.
That's fine by me so long as I know that's what they're doing. If they come to us in 3 or 5 months and show us some document that is reminicent of the Publish 9 revamp because they didn't bother to look at our documents or ask us questions, then there's going to be problems.
If they told us that they're using our documents and they'll work on something and show it to us, that'd be cool. We'll know they're doing things from our end. We just want to know if we're being left out of the loop or kept in it. All of this was promised to us by Thunderheart and GreenMarine. We just want to know what's up and make sure that our ideas and viewpoints are taken into account and used in the revamp.
LastEE wrote:
I see several revam proposals here
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=smuggler&message.id=130148
What makes you think they aren't using those as a starting point for the revamp, then they'll eventually release their version with modifications for comment? As was stated, you don't really want them coming up now and saying "so, what do you want?" you want them to take your proposals and run with them which doesn't happen overnight, so they STARTED with your docs and will ask for feedback when they're ready.
The fact that no one officially said "Hey, we are using Thread #1, Thread #2 and Thread #3 as a starting point, we'll try to merge those ideas into a bigger revamp document and get back to you as soon as we have something solid so you can throw some comments at us, but bye for now, because we're busy working on this!".
LastEE wrote:
I see several revam proposals here
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=smuggler&message.id=130148
What makes you think they aren't using those as a starting point for the revamp, then they'll eventually release their version with modifications for comment? As was stated, you don't really want them coming up now and saying "so, what do you want?" you want them to take your proposals and run with them which doesn't happen overnight, so they STARTED with your docs and will ask for feedback when they're ready.
Shrendyc wrote:
Guys, really - we've been over this before and we're coming to the same place. I understand the anger and frustration as well as anyone here, but we're just going to get worked up over nothing again. nothing's changed; we've gotten bent out of shape before and its gotten us nowhere.
Time to just go with it. We have no control over anything; they have the power. The revamp will come or it won't. Nothing we do, nothing we say, will have any effect on it coming sooner or later.
Yeah, they broke a ton of promises; shame on them. They're all bad, evil, foul smelling people. We know that. But its not worth the aggrevation of slogging through all the muck one more time for no reason.
I am certain Wes has been letting them know how disgruntled we are; he's doing all he can to help out. Least we can do is keep things civil - not that I am accusing anyone of getting out of line, but I just don't want to see it go that far, hence this post.
Hear Hear! Thanks for posting this one!
Dat
Tiggs wrote:
Folks,
You have provided us with tons of feedback and changes on what you would like for the Smuggler profession already. Let us do what we need to and then we will post it to you and the other non-combat professions we are working on.
does that mean they are reading the stickies? If they read Green Marines thread they should be good to go
Message Edited by Ackehece on 02-02-2005 10:05 AM
Tiggs wrote:
Folks,
You have provided us with tons of feedback and changes on what you would like for the Smuggler profession already. Let us do what we need to and then we will post it to you and the other non-combat professions we are working on.
Thanks Tiggs. This is perhaps the most important statement you have made in this forum to date. Knowing that you are using the past threads that have hashed out many ideas will put a lot of people at ease and you have eliminated the fear that you will come in here and ask us what we want yet again.
You're defnitely learning how to deal with us.
TomoRainer wrote:
Not to dimish the commando's plight any, but.. did you ever try one BEFORE their revamp?
Commando got a revamp??
News to me...And I have had a Commando toon since about 2 months after launch
Tiggs wrote:
Folks,
You have provided us with tons of feedback and changes on what you would like for the Smuggler profession already. Let us do what we need to and then we will post it to you and the other non-combat professions we are working on.
Praise GOD! You mean we won't have to answer another "What would you like in your revamp?" thread?
This is the best post I think I've ever seen as far as communication from the Devs.
Now, if you could keep this up with just a small update (just a sentence or two) every now and then, you will start earning credibility back.
That's all I personally ask, just a little tidbit every now and again to let us know you're still out there.
And like another poster said above...if you would update us ahead of time on negative things that will impact us (ie: slipping in a change to the Spice downer), you wouldn't have near the problems earning back your credibility with the community. We just want to be informed...good or bad...information is the key.
RankorCity wrote:
TomoRainer wrote:
Not to dimish the commando's plight any, but.. did you ever try one BEFORE their revamp?
Commando got a revamp??
News to me...And I have had a Commando toon since about 2 months after launch
DrevenStrobe wrote:
Tiggs wrote:
Folks,
You have provided us with tons of feedback and changes on what you would like for the Smuggler profession already. Let us do what we need to and then we will post it to you and the other non-combat professions we are working on.
Praise GOD! You mean we won't have to answer another "What would you like in your revamp?" thread?
. Thanks for posting Tiggs 