Smuggler Archive
Thread: Just a Quote & Clicky that Makes me a Sad Smuggler *Tiggs Posted Within*
LaughingWolf
Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:04 am
#93
And me from losing my overly optimistic calm and growling 
Ah well lol
Thanks Tiggs.
oh and I am not so sure about Dreven's brain being safe from exploding tho... still is the matter of "newbie not reading the stickies and asking about slicing/fp selling/spice/can we slice ship components/question of the day" threads.
Ah well lolThanks Tiggs.
oh and I am not so sure about Dreven's brain being safe from exploding tho... still is the matter of "newbie not reading the stickies and asking about slicing/fp selling/spice/can we slice ship components/question of the day" threads.
Message Edited by LaughingWolf on 02-02-2005 01:05 PM
fishbrains
Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:08 am
#94
Tiggs wrote:Folks,You have provided us with tons of feedback and changes on what you would like for the Smuggler profession already. Let us do what we need to and then we will post it to you and the other non-combat professions we are working on.
impressive, most impressive. Pharhaps you guys are learning
RankorCity
Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:19 am
#95
Knightcrest wrote:
RankorCity wrote:
TomoRainer wrote:
Not to dimish the commando's plight any, but.. did you ever try one BEFORE their revamp?
Commando got a revamp??
News to me...And I have had a Commando toon since about 2 months after launch
You may not remeber the 200ish mx dmg flamethrowers then.... It was so long ago I don't even remeber when they made the changes. I couldn't really call that a revamp though.
Oh yeah, I remember them...Its what I used to level Commando with...Was before the LP gave heavy weapons xp, and gave pistol xp....
maxtheusher
Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:26 am
#96
Here's two points of view on one thing.
The Golden Rule.
Treat others as you wish to be treated.
Now of course, the Devs have treated us poorly in the past. One could then say, well that must be how they wish to be treated. I would agree with them. HOWEVER and I can't stress this enough, the Golden Rule is a two-way street. If we treat the Devs poorly, we we saying we wish to be treated poorly.
I'm going to take this opportunity to offer the Devs a suggestion:
Caylin gave you detailed notes about everything we want from our Revamp. Take these on a point by point basis. Give US two lists. One, things you just can't do. Two, things you think you can do. On the CAN'T do list, give us reasons WHY. On the CAN probably do list, tell us what changes you think you'll reed to make it work. If we say we'd rather live without a feature than have it the way you think you have to make it, listen to us. That's all.
Knightcrest
Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:27 am
#97
lol Then you remeber the pain... and yeah I agree to me that was not a revamp but just making the weapon functional
RankorCity wrote:
Knightcrest wrote:
RankorCity wrote:
TomoRainer wrote:
Not to dimish the commando's plight any, but.. did you ever try one BEFORE their revamp?
Commando got a revamp??
News to me...And I have had a Commando toon since about 2 months after launch
You may not remeber the 200ish mx dmg flamethrowers then.... It was so long ago I don't even remeber when they made the changes. I couldn't really call that a revamp though.
Oh yeah, I remember them...Its what I used to level Commando with...Was before the LP gave heavy weapons xp, and gave pistol xp....
maxtheusher
Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:36 am
#98
hey in a similar vein, all we're asking is for ourprofession to be functional... (and don't say slicing)
Knightcrest wrote:
lol Then you remeber the pain... and yeah I agree to me that was not a revamp but just making the weapon functional
RankorCity wrote:
Knightcrest wrote:
RankorCity wrote:
TomoRainer wrote:
Not to dimish the commando's plight any, but.. did you ever try one BEFORE their revamp?
Commando got a revamp??
News to me...And I have had a Commando toon since about 2 months after launch
You may not remeber the 200ish mx dmg flamethrowers then.... It was so long ago I don't even remeber when they made the changes. I couldn't really call that a revamp though.
Oh yeah, I remember them...Its what I used to level Commando with...Was before the LP gave heavy weapons xp, and gave pistol xp....
DarthMinos
Wed Feb 02, 2005 12:09 pm
#99
Tiggs wrote:
Folks,
You have provided us with tons of feedback and changes on what you would like for the Smuggler profession already. Let us do what we need to and then we will post it to you and the other non-combat professions we are working on.
Hey, at least the Devs didn't ask for what we would like to see. Thats a start.
maxtheusher
Wed Feb 02, 2005 12:19 pm
#100
Sorry, I can't help but be a little negative here. When did we get completely lumped in w/ the "other" professions being worked on? Last time it was Smuggler first, then everyone else. Then, it was Smuggler, and everyone else simultaneously. Now, it's Non-com profs, including smuggler. Too much wording we that belongs in lawyers' briefcases, not in these forums.
Again sorry, but it's been eating at me
Kamileon
Wed Feb 02, 2005 12:20 pm
#101
Another thing we really need to keep in mind is not to shoot the messenger. I'm willing to bet there's very little that the Devs who are sent here as liasons are able to say in do in response to the community. Ideas and interaction are great, but I'm sure they're hamstrung not by their being cold, heartless, abusive tyrant devs that are wastes of humanity, but rather by NDAs and having do what their bosses want, and so on.
Give 'em a break.
Give 'em a break.
Aelik Orrigo: Smuggler, Pilot, and Ranger. Kettemoor
JediArashi
Wed Feb 02, 2005 2:09 pm
#102
Tiggs wrote:
Folks,
You have provided us with tons of feedback and changes on what you would like for the Smuggler profession already. Let us do what we need to and then we will post it to you and the other non-combat professions we are working on.
One of the best posts for this forum. This is what we've wanted to hear. No, she didn't say they were using the feedback, nor anything else specific; but how many times have we said that we would simply like some ackowledgement?? eh??
Rank this up with GM's post finally stating that slicing is random, and we haveone thing that we have wanted for some time....acknowledgement!!!
Nick, seems you've steered the discussion back to proper heading...nice work m'man.
TomoRainer
Wed Feb 02, 2005 5:25 pm
#103
maxtheusher wrote:
Knightcrest wrote:hey in a similar vein, all we're asking is for ourprofession to be functional... (and don't say slicing)
RankorCity wrote:lol Then you remeber the pain... and yeah I agree to me that was not a revamp but just making the weapon functional
Oh yeah, I remember them...Its what I used to level Commando with...Was before the LP gave heavy weapons xp, and gave pistol xp....
QFE on Max. Original point on the subject was that nearly everyone, including commandos, has seen some serious attention. (Whether it was a revamp is debatable, but the changes to commando weapons were huge, as both of you clearly know.) Smugglers, on the other hand, still aren't functional as smugglers, and until these upcoming patches, I can't remember one change that expanded or added to our core abilities. I think we're earned a little priority.
Which, I'm happy to see, Tiggs' posts here seem to confirm. Those three posts were flat-out great to read, the kind of information we've been wanting for a long long time--and who knows, they might even go a ways toward removing the stingers from some of us old hornets.
LaughingWolf
Wed Feb 02, 2005 6:08 pm
#104
NickHeel wrote:
Tiggs wrote:Folks,You have provided us with tons of feedback and changes on what you would like for the Smuggler profession already. Let us do what we need to and then we will post it to you and the other non-combat professions we are working on.Thanks, Tiggs. That's what we needed to know. Now if, like Dreven said, we can get some updates along the way to let us know we're not getting a mild upgrade or enhancement like the other non-combat professions and what you're doing with us, we'll be in business. Oh, and have GreenMarine stop in with his input so that we'll get a first hand account by someone on the inside we've worked with before, please.
Scoundrels and Rougettes, I have presented to you the METHOD in action
It's Roguettes, not Rougettes! Arrgghhhh!!! *head explode*
lol sorry, personal pet peeve hehehe
lol Just teasing you Nick.