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Thread: Smuggler Request to the Devs to clarify the changes on Feign Death. What does it mean to us?

Novock
Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:38 pm
#66






JustG wrote:

The intention is that you can be deathblowedwhile feign-death(ed). If not this is essentially an invuln button for PvP.


This has been a long-standing bug that was fixed because of the impending GCW changes.






So what is it suppose to do? You FD then they kill you anyways it seems pointless doesn't it?



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Smuggler_Caylin
Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:38 pm
#67



Undergrid wrote:


JustG wrote:
The intention is that you can be deathblowed while feign-death(ed). If not this is essentially an invuln button for PvP.
This has been a long-standing bug that was fixed because of the impending GCW changes.






So now we can get DB'd too? Even although I'm pretty sure the skill description says you cant... I hope to heck thats a typo..


Well I guess that will solve the griefing/black bar issue. I don't have to like it but I do understand it. I'll try to be optimistic as to a complete redesign of FD in the combat upgrade that remains useful in PvP and PvE.



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Ragnaat
Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:38 pm
#68

*scratches head*

So um... I'm a bit confusored... whats FD supposed to do when you hit it and why would you use it?



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WesBelden
Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:39 pm
#69






Smuggler_Caylin wrote:

Well I guess that will solve the griefing/black bar issue. I don't have to like it but I do understand it. I'll try to be optimistic as to a complete redesign of FD in the combat upgrade that remains useful in PvP and PvE.




QFE.


Thanks for the clarification JustG.





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DevilsAdvocate
Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:39 pm
#70


Well as many have said like all moves that were overused it is being nerfed. As for useless in PVE I use it quite effectively when I need to. If you are trying to use it right next to the lair where the creature lives yeah its not going to help. If you know the fight is going badly move away from the lair and FD, the mob travels back to its lair and as long as it doesnt have a DOT on it, it shouldnt agro untill you get close again.
DarkBShadow
Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:40 pm
#71

it won't be pointless in PvE. cuz once you FD the mobs stop attacking you.

just made it useless in PvP.



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01201986
Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:40 pm
#72

great, another useless smuggler skill. all this because jedi dabble in our profession



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RagNoRock5x
Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:41 pm
#73






SilentSlayer wrote:

If I look like I'm dead, how can someone deathblow me again? The skill is now only useful for PVE then? Will NPCs db you?



Its called over kill, I do it in FPSs all the time. As do alot of people. Shooting a corpse repeditivly to make shure they are dead and know that they died.




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JTGAlpha
Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:41 pm
#74

Yes, but this makes it useless in PvE since we'll get incapped three times by bloodthirsty mobs....


There are many many suggestions that would have solved all this that were a lot better...why choose this?



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Durinthiam
Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:42 pm
#75



Ragnaat wrote:
*scratches head*

So um... I'm a bit confusored... whats FD supposed to do when you hit it and why would you use it?




Its now a RP'er skill it seems, to RP sleeping on your back



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gomi321
Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:42 pm
#76






DarkBShadow wrote:
it won't be pointless in PvE. cuz once you FD the mobs stop attacking you.

just made it useless in PvP.





except the minute you get up they aggro right back on you.




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lostdeity
Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:42 pm
#77

OK, here is the question to answer all, well 2 questions, or, . . . .one clarification. . . . . . . . maybe


Once you feign death and then become incappacitated while feign'd can a character player npc or otherwise perform a deathblow on you, OR is the only way you can be killed while feign death is you have been incapped for your 3rd time or what not and just happen to die upon incapacitation?



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LaughingWolf
Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:42 pm
#78

Ok, the way I see it.....

PvE: That change actually help. 1- If you go FD and a mob incap you, the mob should not aggro again when you get up, because while the FD didn'T break agro, being incapped do. Question tho: will DBing mobs incap and DB you, or just incapp and leave, believing you dead?

PvP: With that clarification from JustG, they just made the skill completly worthless in any PvP situation. Lucky Smugglers, we have the ONLY combat skill of all profession that is intentionally made non usable in PvP. I agree something HAD to change, but I was hoping for a more...fair solution, maybe with the CU. I hope we get something evetually that will allow Smugglers to PvP without being butchered.



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