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Thread: Last ditch working as intended?

JenniferAmidala
Fri May 13, 2005 7:23 pm
#53






Cooter_Scylla wrote:


If the problem is with BH's taking it, we might as well have set classes across the board eliminating any form of dabbling at all. What is the point of having extra skill points unless they can actually be used for something beneficial?





Oh God no!! We can't letPadawans lose all their regular prof abilities and start their new life as a Jedi with no skills at all, like they did originally, can we?


I don't even have Last Ditch, but I'm tired of Jedi trying to dictate how everyone else has to play so that their gametime is more enjoyable for them. God forbid we have a dose of reality here and a Jedi might...*gasp*...actually die on occasion!



Lesa Edow - Elder Doctor - Elder Combat Medic - Elder TKM - Elder Fencer - Elder Rifleman - Elder Pistoleer - Elder Carbineer - Elder Bounty Hunter - Elder Jedi
I'm Nobody! Who are you?
Are you—Nobody—Too?
Then there's a pair of us!
Don't tell! they'd advertise—you know!

CapnKate
Fri May 13, 2005 7:30 pm
#54



JenniferAmidala wrote:


Cooter_Scylla wrote:
If the problem is with BH's taking it, we might as well have set classes across the board eliminating any form of dabbling at all. What is the point of having extra skill points unless they can actually be used for something beneficial?


Oh God no!! We can't let Padawans lose all their regular prof abilities and start their new life as a Jedi with no skills at all, like they did originally, can we?
I don't even have Last Ditch, but I'm tired of Jedi trying to dictate how everyone else has to play so that their gametime is more enjoyable for them. God forbid we have a dose of reality here and a Jedi might...*gasp*...actually die on occasion!





I think the point he was making is in favor of not locking BH out of the skill, because it flies in the face of the whole skill system.



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JacobHiggins
Fri May 13, 2005 7:31 pm
#55

Excactly what a poster said a couple of posts up, that's why you WANT to use other skills. If Bounty Hunters want to use Last Ditch, FINE, let them use it. There making the sacirfice by picking it up, the skill should not be nerfed at all, just because ONE spoiled profession does not like it.
JenniferAmidala
Fri May 13, 2005 7:33 pm
#56






CapnKate wrote:





JenniferAmidala wrote:





Cooter_Scylla wrote:


If the problem is with BH's taking it, we might as well have set classes across the board eliminating any form of dabbling at all. What is the point of having extra skill points unless they can actually be used for something beneficial?





Oh God no!! We can't let Padawans lose all their regular prof abilities and start their new life as a Jedi with no skills at all, like they did originally, can we?


I don't even have Last Ditch, but I'm tired of Jedi trying to dictate how everyone else has to play so that their gametime is more enjoyable for them. God forbid we have a dose of reality here and a Jedi might...*gasp*...actually die on occasion!







I think the point he was making is in favor of not locking BH out of the skill, because it flies in the face of the whole skill system.




No, you all misunderstood me. I'm sorry, I was simply being sarcastic, I knew exactly what he meant. My bad.





Lesa Edow - Elder Doctor - Elder Combat Medic - Elder TKM - Elder Fencer - Elder Rifleman - Elder Pistoleer - Elder Carbineer - Elder Bounty Hunter - Elder Jedi
I'm Nobody! Who are you?
Are you—Nobody—Too?
Then there's a pair of us!
Don't tell! they'd advertise—you know!

Mystix17b
Fri May 13, 2005 7:45 pm
#57

The effects of Last Ditch are highly overexaggerated by the Jedi community....just like everything else that *might* be effective against them. Last Ditch is just that, a last ditch. It's a pot shot, it works once in a great while and is basically a luck shot if you do kill them in one hit. I used it for 3 days against 15+ 220k+ jedi and decided the negatives far outweigh the positives.

Spiderhammer
Fri May 13, 2005 11:14 pm
#58

Hmm how to say this without offending the Jedi.. probably cant be done so i'l preface it with a no offence


no offence but, for a profession that quite honestly has ruined the feel of the game for a great many people, ok mostly people who are here to roleplay and not just pvp, I find it a bit offensive for that profession to cry for a nerf on a skill, especially one that is so very in the character of the profession, just because it challenges them in their absolute dominance. If you fear to face the wrath of last ditch from a bounty hunter dabbler ther is a simple solution that would make the game better for everyone...


STOP USING YOUR FORCE POWERS IN THE CANTINA.. dont get visibility.. your not supposed to get visibility... your suposed to be in hiding.. your supposed to have already been hunted nearly to extinction.... part of playing a jedi at this point in the timeline should be hiding the fact that you are a jedi!


er but like i said.. no offence






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Player Based Smugglin... its the only way!
AshleTavi
Sat May 14, 2005 7:15 am
#59



JacobHiggins wrote:
Excactly what a poster said a couple of posts up, that's why you WANT to use other skills. If Bounty Hunters want to use Last Ditch, FINE, let them use it. There making the sacirfice by picking it up, the skill should not be nerfed at all, just because ONE spoiled profession does not like it.





Spoiled Profession? Do you have a Jedi account? Have you even played on a Jedi account in the last 20 days? If not, then how do you know jedi profession is spoiled.

You have to think real hard about alot of things.
1.) What profession loses exp when they die? Jedi
2.) What profession has been nerf'd more times? Jedi
3.) What profession takes the longest to aquire NOVICE? Jedi
4.) What profession can you put all your skills in and not be able to be a Master of that profession? Jedi



GO talk crap now little boy. Once you get a Jedi to Master (am I'm not talking about Master LS, Master Defender etc etc. I'm talking full outright MASTER JEDI) then and only then will I listen to your comments.


RIght now you're just a crybaby that hasn't got his way yet so you will continue to cry.



Boscuia,Boscuian and Ashly
DARK
Real life member of PETA (People Eating Tasty Animals)


mka
Sat May 14, 2005 8:09 am
#60






AshleTavi wrote:


You have to think real hard about alot of things.
1.) What profession loses exp when they die? Jedi
2.) What profession has been nerf'd more times? Jedi
3.) What profession takes the longest to aquire NOVICE? Jedi
4.) What profession can you put all your skills in and not be able to be a Master of that profession? Jedi






5.) What profession had TWO revamps since launch already and still complains just like on the first day?


6.) What profession is 1.5 times stronger BY DESIGN and still tries to get everyone else nerfed?



99% of the Smugglers didn't care about the BH/Jedi minigame until they started to drag us in. Just leave it be. Or take LD for all I care, just give us our well-earned revamp.





Jeswin Esqui - Master Smuggler - Master Commando - Master Pilot - Chimaera Galaxy
MISTagent01
Sat May 14, 2005 2:19 pm
#61








AshleTavi wrote:

Spoiled Profession? Do you have a Jedi account? Have you even played on a Jedi account in the last 20 days? If not, then how do you know jedi profession is spoiled.

You have to think real hard about alot of things.
1.) What profession loses exp when they die and whine about it, when there's another profession named Smugglerthat would KILL to be hunted by PC BHs? Jedi
2.) What profession has been attended to more times, while putting every other profession on the backburner because they believe to be _the_ most important profession in this game? Jedi
3.) What profession takes thefun out of SWG? Jedi
4.) What profession can you put all your skills in and not be able toactually do what your profession implies? SMUGGLER.


You need to watch yourself. Jedi have gotten us nerfed before, and we're not going to take your crap anymore. YOu abused FD to the point where BHs needed to get it nerfed. Now, you're complaining BHs are abusing FD and you want it nerfed.


STOP nerfing our profession. If you want to b!tch about something, go complain to the devs that 5 bounties at once is too much for you.


You chose to be a Jedi, you knew it was going to be hard, so don't give me this "Oh, waaaambulance, I loseexp and you don't"song and dance bullcrap. You knew what you were getting into. BHs will find any way to beat you, because that's what their profession does, they hunt Jedi.


Of the three iconic professions:


Jedi:They canhave a lightsaber, they can behowever they choose to be, whether it be honorable (unlikely) or unhonorable. They can be like Obi-wan, Luke, Darth Maul, etc.


Bounty Hunter: They hunt bounties, they hunt Jedi. They can be like Jango/Boba Fett, Greedo, etc.


Smuggler: Can NOTSmuggle, like their title implies. All the dirty moves they getare nerfed by whiners in the other two iconic professions. They can NOT be like Han Solo, Talon Karrde, Mara Jade, etc.










V E E L A "her royal hawtness"
I am Jack's Smirking Revenge. I am Jack's Ignored Profession.
Theed was a bustling commerce city...people hawked their wares, danced, laughed, dueled, and had a rollicking good time. Cantinas packed with Entertainers of every race, shape and size...along with scoundrels, Stormtroopers, and drunks. People grouped up and stuck together in the wilderness, and you ALWAYS took a Scout or a Ranger with you. We lived our own Star Wars saga. We created our own personas, our own histories, and it all blended into this wonderful, magical experience that I will always remember...


That magic is gone now, but I'd pay 50 bucks a month to have it back.

Editor's Note: The author of the above post has quit giving SOE her money. She suggests you do the same, because this game will never be what you want it to be.


BaronJuJu
Sat May 14, 2005 2:31 pm
#62



AshleTavi wrote:

Spoiled Profession? Do you have a Jedi account? Have you even played on a Jedi account in the last 20 days? If not, then how do you know jedi profession is spoiled.

You have to think real hard about alot of things.
1.) What profession loses exp when they die and whine about it, when there's another profession named Smugglerthat would KILL to be hunted by PC BHs? Jedi
2.) What profession has been attended to more times, while putting every other profession on the backburner because they believe to be _the_ most important profession in this game? Jedi
3.) What profession takes thefun out of SWG? Jedi
4.) What profession can you put all your skills in and not be able toactually do what your profession implies? SMUGGLER.


You need to watch yourself. Jedi have gotten us nerfed before, and we're not going to take your crap anymore. YOu abused FD to the point where BHs needed to get it nerfed. Now, you're complaining BHs are abusing FD and you want it nerfed.


STOP nerfing our profession. If you want to b!tch about something, go complain to the devs that 5 bounties at once is too much for you.


You chose to be a Jedi, you knew it was going to be hard, so don't give me this "Oh, waaaambulance, I loseexp and you don't"song and dance bullcrap. You knew what you were getting into. BHs will find any way to beat you, because that's what their profession does, they hunt Jedi.


Of the three iconic professions:


Jedi:They canhave a lightsaber, they can behowever they choose to be, whether it be honorable (unlikely) or unhonorable. They can be like Obi-wan, Luke, Darth Maul, etc.


Bounty Hunter: They hunt bounties, they hunt Jedi. They can be like Jango/Boba Fett, Greedo, etc.


Smuggler: Can NOTSmuggle, like their title implies. All the dirty moves they getare nerfed by whiners in the other two iconic professions. They can NOT be like Han Solo, Talon Karrde, Mara Jade, etc.






QFE


Thank you Veela




Daxuk
Copper Dune, Guild Leader

"Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience"
CapnKate
Sat May 14, 2005 3:06 pm
#63


MISTagent01 wrote:


AshleTavi wrote:

Spoiled Profession? Do you have a Jedi account? Have you even played on a Jedi account in the last 20 days? If not, then how do you know jedi profession is spoiled.

You have to think real hard about alot of things.
1.) What profession loses exp when they die and whine about it, when there's another profession named Smuggler that would KILL to be hunted by PC BHs? Jedi
2.) What profession has been attended to more times, while putting every other profession on the backburner because they believe to be _the_ most important profession in this game? Jedi
3.) What profession takes the fun out of SWG? Jedi
4.) What profession can you put all your skills in and not be able to actually do what your profession implies? SMUGGLER.


You need to watch yourself. Jedi have gotten us nerfed before, and we're not going to take your crap anymore. YOu abused FD to the point where BHs needed to get it nerfed. Now, you're complaining BHs are abusing FD and you want it nerfed.

STOP nerfing our profession. If you want to b!tch about something, go complain to the devs that 5 bounties at once is too much for you.

You chose to be a Jedi, you knew it was going to be hard, so don't give me this "Oh, waaaambulance, I lose exp and you don't" song and dance bullcrap. You knew what you were getting into. BHs will find any way to beat you, because that's what their profession does, they hunt Jedi.

Of the three iconic professions:

Jedi: They can have a lightsaber, they can be however they choose to be, whether it be honorable (unlikely) or unhonorable. They can be like Obi-wan, Luke, Darth Maul, etc.

Bounty Hunter: They hunt bounties, they hunt Jedi. They can be like Jango/Boba Fett, Greedo, etc.

Smuggler: Can NOT Smuggle, like their title implies. All the dirty moves they get are nerfed by whiners in the other two iconic professions. They can NOT be like Han Solo, Talon Karrde, Mara Jade, etc.








Actually, Veela, I have to disagree with you on one point. Jedi are, like us, nothing like their canonical counterparts.

THEY'RE ALIVE

Message Edited by CapnKate on 05-14-2005 06:06 PM



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Kaitlin Mainwaring, Kettemoor - Master Smuggler/Master Shipwright/Rebel Ace
--Former SpaceBeta1 Master Tester
AngusMacGregor
Sat May 14, 2005 3:51 pm
#64








CapnKate wrote:



Actually, Veela, I have to disagree with you on one point. Jedi are, like us, nothing like their canonical counterparts.

THEY'RE ALIVE


Message Edited by CapnKate on 05-14-200506:06 PM





QFE!!!!! And a hearty ROFL, as well!




"C O L O N E L A N G U S" M A C G R E G O R
DEAD SMUGGLER - KILLED BY LACK OF CONTENT AND COMMUNICATION
I am Jack's ignored profession.
My account payment has been moved to a long term implementation.
CapnKate
Sat May 14, 2005 4:58 pm
#65



AngusMacGregor wrote:


CapnKate wrote:


Actually, Veela, I have to disagree with you on one point. Jedi are, like us, nothing like their canonical counterparts.

THEY'RE ALIVE

Message Edited by CapnKate on 05-14-200506:06 PM



QFE!!!!! And a hearty ROFL, as well!




Well, honestly, I'm not saying that we shouldn't have jedi. But you can't deny that it's true.



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Smuggler: We Diggs the Tiggs


Kaytlin Mainwaring, Starsider - Smuggler/CM/Commando/Rebel Pilot
Kaitlin Mainwaring, Kettemoor - Master Smuggler/Master Shipwright/Rebel Ace
--Former SpaceBeta1 Master Tester
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