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DrevenStrobe

Wed May 04, 2005 7:45 pm

AntiBrand wrote:

The faction points cap needs updating, it is different now thecombat upgradeis in place..

It's going to have to be up to someone else to keep this updated. I'm on hiatus from SWG...I haven't even logged in since the CU went live, so I don't have any kind of clue what's going on.

/salute

Dreven Strobe (Colonel) ~~Tristyn Strobe~~

TKM / Master Pistoleer / Master Smuggler / ~~Master Merchant~~

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Smuggler 'til the end...and then some.

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Kylania

Tue May 24, 2005 10:06 pm

#54

Helpful info! Thanks!

KaiRan

Wed May 25, 2005 9:15 am

#55

/target Dreven;
/salute

I miss the old price wars, Col. Strobe. It will be good to see some honest competition on the trade forums again on your return.

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ScottyK

Mon May 30, 2005 9:19 am

#56

If you need to be SpecForces to buy/del FP, then how can you buy/del FP for both sides? I'm really confused. Also, how do you earn FP if you're neutral with 0 REb and 0 IMP?

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Ragnaat

Sat Jun 18, 2005 12:07 am

#57

Ok, lets see whats missing from this FAQ, and maybe we can pull an update together...

(1) What are faction caps now? is there a formula now, or just all over the place?

(2) Entertainer Inspiration Buffs - Need a mention that it is wise for you to have a buff when buying faction and your customer to have one wehn time comes to /del - and some math / formulas for calcualting what you should /del if they do, or what cost is if you do would be nice.

(3) Startegies for selling / meeting - someone in another thread mentioned using Dearic (rebel) as a place to declare SF then jumping in your MP ship to do safe transactions... hmmm

(4) Probably could use a writeup about perk costs and the GCW control system.

Anything else? I'll write up a few of these, but some things I don't have handy - in particular the new FP caps, so anyone know the new ratio for figuring out caps?

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Jaguarrr

Mon Jun 20, 2005 2:03 am

#58

Ragnaat wrote:
Ok, lets see whats missing from this FAQ, and maybe we can pull an update together...

(1) What are faction caps now? is there a formula now, or just all over the place?

(2) Entertainer Inspiration Buffs - Need a mention that it is wise for you to have a buff when buying faction and your customer to have one wehn time comes to /del - and some math / formulas for calcualting what you should /del if they do, or what cost is if you do would be nice.

(3) Startegies for selling / meeting - someone in another thread mentioned using Dearic (rebel) as a place to declare SF then jumping in your MP ship to do safe transactions... hmmm

(4) Probably could use a writeup about perk costs and the GCW control system.

Anything else? I'll write up a few of these, but some things I don't have handy - in particular the new FP caps, so anyone know the new ratio for figuring out caps?

Most save place for delegating rebel faction (rebel pilot):

Go combatant at any place convient for you

Have your customer(s) ready waiting at the starship terminal

Launch with your customer(s) into space

Have some fun blowing stuff up while on the way to the Dantooine Space Station

Assuming you have already done the quest, land at the abandoned Rebel Base (Vortex Pilots most likely have)

Walk (because walking is much cooler) into the base and go upstairs to the captain near Mon Mothma

Go SF and delegate, if your customer is not rebel he can't enter the building (I don't know what the range is but a line of sight seems not to be needed).

Any gank-squads that wil be that desperate to get you flail outside until your combtant/on leave again.

Give your customer a ride after a successfull deal or let your customer rott if he tried to scam you

We couldn't play SWG without Tiggs. Now we can =)

simba-dimba

Tue Jun 21, 2005 11:06 am

#59

thank you for sharing that information ... its rather helpful

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Javrie

Thu Jul 07, 2005 1:14 pm

#60

Hello, sorry in advance for the questions I'm not smuggler don't know anything about your prof. I've read the FAQ and still have these questions:

As an armorsmith wanting to make faction armor, do I get my local smuggler to smuggle the schematics or the fp so I can buy the schematic?

I have a friend who turned from imp. He's at -5k of faction. does he purchase 5k of reb fp to even out to zero or can he donate/give his imp fp to a smuggler so they can turn it into cash?

Thanks

Javrie Xarir, Bria, MAS RIS cert, MT. CL 1 Doncha think I could do some damage to a lvl 5 gnort with my tailoring scissors?

Drop winnings to Xarir's vendor -3515 5420 NE of Theed short ride. Or send tell or email to Javrie or Zetta ingame.

Jaguarrr

Fri Jul 08, 2005 1:31 am

#61

Javrie wrote:

Hello, sorry in advance for the questions I'm not smuggler don't know anything about your prof. I've read the FAQ and still have these questions:

As an armorsmith wanting to make faction armor, do I get my local smuggler to smuggle the schematics or the fp so I can buy the schematic?

Smuggle the shematics? *sigh* Would be great but there is no smuggling. In fact the /delegatefaction (is that the complete one? dunno, always use only /del ) command is NOT a Smuggler command. Another fact is that only Armoursmiths can buy the shematics, preventing non-AS Smugglers from buying them with a discount and making a nice deal. The deal with a Smuggler is only because a Smuggler can bribe/donate money to a recruiter and get some FP fast, and I mean real fast. Need 100.000 FP? No problem, just pay in advance and give me a minute.

I have a friend who turned from imp. He's at -5k of faction. does he purchase 5k of reb fp to even out to zero or can he donate/give his imp fp to a smuggler so they can turn it into cash?

From -5.000 Rebel faction to 0 he has to either buy them or earn them via missions. The "Sell Out" option a Smuggler has is gone, A Smuggler can not sell any faction to a recruiter. Besides there would be the problem that you have to be SF to delegate. And since your friend left the empire that might be a tidbit problematic.

Thanks

There

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Javrie

Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:11 am

#62

Ah thanks Jaguarrr, yeah found out ingame anyone can hand off fp if they have it and want to sell it...seems a pity, I thought that was a smuggler thing only at one time...also found out a person turning sides can reset their fp to 0 by changing sides, going neutral, then rejoining the side they want. I would think in the interest of RP that tailors could get blackmarket schematics, do faction armor if you were neutral if you had a blackmarket schem, or something like that...oh well. kk, thanks for the info, thought I needed the services of a smuggler, guess I didn't.

Javrie Xarir, Bria, MAS RIS cert, MT. CL 1 Doncha think I could do some damage to a lvl 5 gnort with my tailoring scissors?

Drop winnings to Xarir's vendor -3515 5420 NE of Theed short ride. Or send tell or email to Javrie or Zetta ingame.

Gair

Sat Aug 13, 2005 9:26 am

#63

Ok, sorry for having to ask this, but i been trying to figure out the math of what i need to charge for 1 fp up to a bulk of 1k of fp. im not that good in math ( shouldnt have dropped out in 3rd grade ) and im trying to follow the formula posted on here but i still cant grasp it. im an imperial colonel master smuggler. so if any one can help me i wuld appreciate it alot.

thank you.

SmugglinZane

Sat Aug 13, 2005 9:52 am

#64

Good luck getting an answer.... Drevin, an upstanding member of this community, was killed by SOE's long term development of his character.

"Jedi claims of being "broken" are like saying "But my TV isn't widescreen! It's broken! My TV can't show high-def pictures in 1080i, it can only do 720i! It's broken!" Meanwhile, crafters are saying "We'd really like to have a TV that's larger than 12" and gets more than 4 channels and doesn't constantly lose vertical control", and entertainers are saying "Can we get some color instead of this B&W piece of junk?" And smugglers? We're listening to radio programs of "The Shadow" and "The Abbot and Costello Comedy Hour" and hearing FDR's Fireside Chats. We don't even HAVE a damn TV, much less a broken one or a "broken" one by Jedi standards. I'd LOVE to be as "broken" as they are." - The Legendary Solo4114

TashunkaSapa

Sat Aug 13, 2005 11:10 am

#65

Colonels spend 1178 fp to delegate 1000 fp to someone. If you have an inspiration buff from an entertainer, you will get 1375 fp for 100k cr. That's 72.72 cr per fp for you, then you factor in the 1.178 transfer cost = 85.67 credits actual cost to you for each fp the customer receives.

Practically speaking, this means you're taking a loss if you sell for less than 86cr per FP. Personally, I never go anywhere near that low. My normal price is 140cr per FP, that's 60% cost and 40% profit. The way I see it,you spend about 3.36 million credits on the FPneeded to get to Colonel, and I intend to make back my money. If a customer balks, I can tell him "Sure, I'll sell you the FP at my cost... but the transfer rate for a Private" and see if they prefer that rate...

Simply put, the customer is paying for more than just the faction points - they're paying me because they need someone to obtain and transfer those points. This was an ability I obtained at a significant expense. Stingy customers will always try to convince me that they "know a guy" who sells them for 100cr per... I ask "well then, why didn't you buy from him?" The answer is invariably "he's not on right now." Of course he isn't... so you're paying for convenience. I may set a somewhat lower price for large transfers or repeat customers, and of course I'm not out to make a profit off my friends. But I've actually met people who ask if I can "spare 3000 faction" which to me is no different than begging for a quarter million credits. And I'm not going to do it just because they're a "fellow Imperial" because Imperials (or those wishing to become one) are the only people to whom my product/service is useful. My time is valuable to me, I don't waste a lot of it trying to undersell myself and I don't let the customer determine what it's worth. If the impression the customer gives me is that they feel my time isn't very valuable, they are invited to look elsewhere. I'm sure that somewhere, there's a fool working too hard for 14 cr per point profit, wondering why they're so poor and not realizing that they'll have to sell 240,000 fp before they break even on their ownFP investment.

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