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Thread: Raising the price of slicing

Gaarotharr
Thu Jul 29, 2004 1:25 pm
#53

lmao wow its hard to tell which side Mr. Star is on. he goes on about dont take advantage of people and their money and yet points out himself that its just a game.

i love it when people prove your point all by themselves



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Kwambus
Thu Jul 29, 2004 5:49 pm
#54

What never fails to amaze me is the reluctance of some smugglers to increase their pricing, what do they think the customers are going to do? This is a game folks, and we need to buy things in this ever inflating economy also.


You never see docs arguing or undercutting each other do you? Well I certainly haven't.


Guess I am lucky that other than one or two idiots most of the smugglers on my server are sensible, friendly people, its just the odd one or two who say "dont tell me what to charge, I can do what i want!", sure you can but dont spoil it for the rest of us bro!


As for people trolling the forums, well, it shows we are worrying them doesnt it


Keep at it fellow smugglers, we will get the prices pushed up to something reasonable!





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DHorse
Thu Jul 29, 2004 6:16 pm
#55






yimaz wrote:





glimmerstar wrote:

First of all 600k+? where in gods name do you get that? That would be high end armor my friend. 80% kinetic, 70%+ base usually... maybe just 80% kin, 60% base... depending on who you get it from. You think that EVERYONE, including noobs.... paid 600k + for armor? are you insane? Personally, i have a set of armor that I paid maybe around 400k for.... and it has 80% kinetic, 60% base roughly, and a very low encumbrance. But that's just me. Some dude trying to get some low end ubese to fit shouldn't have to pay outragous amounts of money just to do that.... to a noob, 45k is ALOT. Now im not saying 45k is outragous.... that's 5k per piece, and while I think thats still too high it's NOT highway robbery. 10k per piece IS. - to you not to other people And if you go ahead and say its not, GOOD LUCK with that.- been working fine for me n00bIm sick of everyone trying to justify overcharging people.- no justifying it is what it is, dont like it move on, no one cares about your opinion, because everyone has a different perspective on this issue.You exploit them. -lol thats just stupid, no one is forced to pay for anything.This is a game, your suppose to have fun, and THEY are suppose to have fun too.-good point it is a game and the money is not real, get a life!People like you make me sick, because you could give a rats ass if everyone else is having a horrible time, - wow your really stupid, i have clients that pay more then 10k a slice cause they know I need to make money why dont you spend less time caring about yourself and not worry about our prices, if they are to high move on and let the rest of us have fun!as long as you are having fun.


Hey, guess what, without the rest of us..... this game would not exsist. - no kidding you must be high on somthing We all pay SOE money. Every month, just like you. We all have an equal right to fun playing the game.- if what someone charges for anything gets you this upset you need to go back to yourXboxWe don't need to be griefed because the smugglers are on some powertrip with prices.... - lol, come on really now.if we can't afford your prices, we have to go out and try to get more... and end up dying alot in the process, because we can't get all the armor on that we need to..... - same can be said for ANYTHING you need to buy in game, n00b.and don't point to buffs, those NOOBS I was talking about can't afford buffs...- go yell at the doc's for while tell them they a greifing players, lolthey saved every penny for some time, just to get that set of armor one piece at a time. We where ALL there at one point... - and some have not gotten past it (i mean you n00b)and to alienate them is just wrong. - hate to tell you this but most of us cut true n00bs a break It shows no appreciation towards those who helped you when u where a noob. and you sir show no appreciation towards us for makeing your weapons and armor better. Also slicing is not a given owed to anyone, it is an option and really for high end players. BTW your new slicing fee if we meet up is 12,453,453 credits.


And if you think that if me, or smugglers I know, keep charging 3k, or even just 4k.... to undercut you,- ya so. that they would be lined up for YOU to do it? ARE YOU SERIOUS? Lets see here.... get something sliced for 3k by master, or for 5k by master.... same slice..... let me see here.... HMMMM?? Get a clue. - this game is to much for you to handle go back to super mario brothers before you have a stroke, Good day to you Sir!












Howdy boss, how you doing? been a long time boss. Sadly to see the Den dissappear, part of it is my fault Anyway, to all you great smuggler, is this crank up on price is on all server? Currently I am slicing only for friend and guildies to avoidcustomer like Mr. Star here, however, I am getting broke anyhow, if this is on for all server, I will open my slicing to public w/ 10K price



"I ain't crazy, i'm just metally un-balance. After all, I am one of the few, the proude, the neglected, I AM A SMUGGLER."
glimmerstar
Thu Jul 29, 2004 7:06 pm
#56






Delroh wrote:




And for the Low Post comment is was ment like this. You say you been playing for a long time yet you have jsut registered on teh forums and have now 9 posts to your name. What I am saying is you Obvously have not made any real Contributions to the forums but have spend your meager post count to come here and b|tch and threatedn the Smuggler community with a Boycott. Again Good luck with that one. Bahahahaha



Message Edited by Delroh on 07-29-2004 10:06 AM



Guess your just a TROLL then? If you think I have to be to have had to played for awhile, then your wrong. I dont normally post JACK in this forum... its just this issue has proven to gather my attention as it effects me (and everyone else as well) and it's just riduclous. I first notice this problem IN GAME not on the forums. I can here to help track the issue down and ask how you guys can charge so much. What reasoning is behind it. Unfornuately, I failed to find much reason at all other then you just DECIDED to charge that much now. It's not on par with other profession raises, and thats exactly WHY I got pissed... what gives you guys the right? Sure you can charge what you want to charge, nobody can make you do anything.... but there is common decency, and being fair to people. Which alot of you dont seem to want to do all the sudden... just seems kinda selfish.... and for no good reason.

MaxSteele
Thu Jul 29, 2004 9:40 pm
#57






glimmerstar wrote:

Never said all servers... just the one I play on.






Which is...?



Evarn Terallis - Master Smuggler on Kettemoor

There are missions in which you "deliver an item while hostiles attack you" in every profession. I still don't consider [Smuggler's Alliance] pilots to be Smugglers, nor 'Smuggling' - at least not any more than Rebel Pilots or Imperial Pilots might sometimes "smuggle", with a lower-case s - JFreeman - 10/6/04
Jaredus
Thu Jul 29, 2004 10:29 pm
#58

MMm guess its time to go from 4k to 5k.


What it all comes down to is if you dont like the price you get keep shopping until you find someone that will give you the price you want. Every gets to charge what they want to charge, its their right...period. Free enterpirse.


Plus some of us dont charge for slices under 20%, you can possibly end up with a lower average than what your stated in your price.


I've had folk pass up a smuggler spamming in the starport 100 cred per % to come to me so its all the buyer's preferance.



Jaredus Destrin Andrius Darkfyre
Jedi Sentinel Gunslinger
||GSA||
yimaz
Fri Jul 30, 2004 6:48 am
#59









glimmerstar wrote:


Guess your just a TROLL then?- only troll i see is you. If you think I have to be to have had to played for awhile, then your wrong.- you do act like a n00b. Most older players have figured out how to make a living and dontB*tch about what we charge. I dont normally post JACK in this forum... - I would have never guessed its just this issue has proven to gather my attention as it effects me (and everyone else as well) and it's just riduclous.-dude all chop bustin aside the only one this is an issue with is you.I first notice this problem IN GAME not on the forums. I can here to help track the issue down and ask how you guys can charge so much.- its called inflationsmugglers need to buy stuff just like everyone else. What reasoning is behind it. Unfornuately, I failed to find much reason at all other then you just DECIDED to charge that much now.- every profession "decided" what they would charge for a service just like we did.It's not on par with other profession raises, and thats exactly WHY I got pissed... - not true, how much was anything in this game at launch vs the current prices (way cheaper, which you would know if you played for more then 4months) what gives you guys the right? -from a RP point of view we are smugglers and live for the profit. From a game point of view we have the right to charge what we want, you dont like it MOVE ON! Sure you can charge what you want to charge, nobody can make you do anything.... but there is common decency, and being fair to people.- prices are more then fair you spend 200 to 400k for armor (sometimes more) you pay 10 to a million for a killer weapon, paying upto 10k for a slice is fair just because you dontsee that it does not make us bad people who are hurting the game, you need to climb down off the cross and go back to the xbox.Which alot of you dont seem to want to do all the sudden... - now your pissing me off,the smuggler community on a whole is one of the best and most trustedin the game, people trust us with weapons,armor and containers and time and time again we do an honorable job our fee is fine formost people. Sure some have told me i charge 2 much, others have payed me more it is what it is.just seems kinda selfish.... and for no good reason. - you are paying for a permanent improvment on your equipment which is illegal, you are paying for my time and you are dealing with the underworld, you dont like it move on before i pull outmyVK's and beat you down!








Message Edited by yimaz on 07-30-2004 09:53 AM



Yimayz Samoot
Master Smuggler & Master Pilot
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SSF
Fri Jul 30, 2004 8:17 am
#60

It's all about continuity, I slice for a base price of x / slice % point. Guildmen for whatever they give. Friends depending on the slice 500cr - 5K. But when it comes to people who don't realize that a "slice" is perminate !!! ( some peoples kids) Any ways we Smugglers work for "PROFIT" that may be a concept out of somes grasp? But as others have mentioned, "you don't like the price move on" for the Smugglers that are "under pricing" thats a part of simple economics supply/demand 101. If they can afford to slice for 1k / slice so be it he's a volume slicer and thats what he likes to do. Some of us make a living slicing for guild, friends or the general populas. For those of you that "haggle" about my base price I'll let you in on this you'll never get lower than my base price as I have tomake in game cash too. So just give us smugglers a break pay the price or move on. When JTL comes out that price for slicing will most likely jump for us to pay for a ship, and if the Devs implement some of the suggestions that have been tabled on the forums ... well I'm pretty sure space travel isn't going to be a 1000 credtis to move you and your backwater friend accross event the smallest Sector of Space so keep that in mind when you want off planet in a hurry cause it will be smugglers that you come too and its will be Smugglers that you will pay!!!!





"Smuggling is only illegal if you get caught ....... and better you than me"
Delroh
Fri Jul 30, 2004 10:13 am
#61






glimmerstar wrote:





Delroh wrote:




And for the Low Post comment is was ment like this. You say you been playing for a long time yet you have jsut registered on teh forums and have now 9 posts to your name. What I am saying is you Obvously have not made any real Contributions to the forums but have spend your meager post count to come here and b|tch and threatedn the Smuggler community with a Boycott. Again Good luck with that one. Bahahahaha



Message Edited by Delroh on 07-29-2004 10:06 AM



Guess your just a TROLL then? If you think I have to be to have had to played for awhile, then your wrong. I dont normally post JACK in this forum... its just this issue has proven to gather my attention as it effects me (and everyone else as well) and it's just riduclous. I first notice this problem IN GAME not on the forums. I can here to help track the issue down and ask how you guys can charge so much. What reasoning is behind it. Unfornuately, I failed to find much reason at all other then you just DECIDED to charge that much now. It's not on par with other profession raises, and thats exactly WHY I got pissed... what gives you guys the right? Sure you can charge what you want to charge, nobody can make you do anything.... but there is common decency, and being fair to people. Which alot of you dont seem to want to do all the sudden... just seems kinda selfish.... and for no good reason.








Troll, nope , I am what you call someoen that Posts about topics and issues concerning my server and my professions to keep a open link and acctully talk to the people around me and in my server community. Not come on line start up a account and come here to complain to people that are tired of morons like yourself that come and think the world owes you something. No one has to have sliced gear to play this game, Noone has to have sliced armor to play this game so stop your ramblings.



"Sure you can charge what you want to charge, nobody can make you do anything.... but there is common decency, and being fair to people. Which alot of you dont seem to want to do all the sudden... just seems kinda selfish.... and for no good reason."



WERE FRIGGING SMUGGLERS YOU MORON!!!!! WE ARE SLEFISH, WE ARE SHADY, WE ARE GREEDY AND MONEY MAKES OUR WORLD GO AROUND!!!!! NOW PISS OFF!




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Kwambus
Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:14 am
#62

Want to keep this issue busy.


so /bump




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KWAMBUS Master Swordsman-TKM-Master Brawler
APOLLO Master Smuggler-Master Pistoleer
TRADUS Master Doctor-Master Musician

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RedianDuckaus
Sat Jul 31, 2004 8:08 am
#63

This whole concept is stupid. I suppose we should all pay 20k for a FWG5 no matter what the quality as well? Smuggler equipment is extremely cheap and easy to produce as well. Consider what smugglers do as a unique service, not your way to make money. As I saw witha bunchof you have smuggler and TKM or even other combat classes, and you want to argue that this is how you make money? You can run mokk missions and make money as well, it isn't that hard. The X-credits per percent slice was the best system because people actually paid for what they got, which is how it should be. That is why loot made weapons cost more than normally crafted weapons.



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Kwambus
Sat Jul 31, 2004 10:21 am
#64

Heh.. so...


We cant sell spices cause nobody wants them and you get next to nothing for them anyhow, nobody is using much faction cause the galaxy war is broken and all we can do is slice... and you STILL think we shouldnt make any money?


So you think we work our asses off to get smuggler then supply our income with another profession?


lol, would you work for free? i am sure you wouldnt...


go troll elsewhere, this is smuggler business.



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KWAMBUS Master Swordsman-TKM-Master Brawler
APOLLO Master Smuggler-Master Pistoleer
TRADUS Master Doctor-Master Musician

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Joves Fury, Dantooine

isvadermyfather
Sat Jul 31, 2004 2:54 pm
#65

Wahhh cry about baby, give me a break will ya, you pay 10-15k for a buff on my server Eclipse, that lasts for 3 hours and 30 minutes, I do not see a problem with paying 8-10k per slice on a weapon or armor, something that will last longer than the 3 hour buff who cares what people think they should pay it really isnt up to them it is up to the smuggler doing the slicing if you dont ask what the price is before the slice then tough *edit* go homeand suck on mamas*edit* cry baby, or findyour way to the working end of a lightsaber. Decency is not in a scoundrel's code of ethics, profit is.




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