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Thread: Concerns about slicing.

GanymedePharuu
Fri Jul 01, 2005 6:45 am
#573

i think i can see what's coming...

September 19th, 2005:
- Smuggling missions go onto TC.
- they're similar to how they were described on the In Concept forum, except ALL missions have the same structure.
- you get the mission from an NPC at Jabba's (and only Jabba's). you fly to a waypoint in space to pick up the cargo. (there's supposed to be fighters that try to intercept you, but the spawns are bugged. so instead of tier 4 Black Suns you get tier 1 freighters)
- then you fly to your destination planet to make the delivery. you aren't scanned at the starport. you aren't scanned anywhere in between. you make the delivery and get 2k credits plus 1 hit of grey gabiki.
- the NPC bounty hunters are bugged so they come after you even after you successfully complete a mission. but they're all level 184 and you get one shot killed by them.

September 20th, 2005:
- GreenMarine makes a post on the Smuggler forum titled Concerns about Smuggling missions. in it he tells us that the idea of NPC Bounty Hunters coming after us "just isn't fun", so we'll be going to "Plan B".
- "Plan B" consists of having to loot special tokens to be able to speak to the NPC at Jabba's palace to get a Smuggling mission. also there will no longer be any NPC Bounty Hunters coming after us at all. in fact we will encounter no enemies during any of our missions. oh and we won't have to fly in space anymore either. we'll just have to drive from Jabba's palace to Wayfar and back.



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SpinningCloud
Fri Jul 01, 2005 6:58 am
#574

Ganymede; ""Plan B" consists of having to loot special tokens to be able to speak to the NPC at Jabba's palace to get a Smuggling mission."


*sigh* I can honestly see SOE actually doing this.






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SpinningCloud
Fri Jul 01, 2005 7:13 am
#575






dlc3007 wrote:
Its the thread that won't freakin' die..... /sigh





Well, what do you expect? How many red-name threads do we get in this forum?




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Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie"

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Dancers can't smuggle and neither can I.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie."

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Why are there Jedi, I don't know why.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie."

GanymedePharuu
Fri Jul 01, 2005 7:39 am
#576



dlc3007 wrote:
Its the thread that won't freakin' die..... /sigh





no i won't let this die. because this is BS. maybe you wanna roll over and take it, but i for one want to b!tch and moan about it.



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Kohs V'sto
I wanted Smuggling for Christmas
but all i got was
<--- this stupid hat.

I am Jack's ignored profession.
Luke Skywalker is DEAD!
majorslappy
Fri Jul 01, 2005 7:40 am
#577

Smuggler = necromancer? I am confused.



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jobothehobbit
Fri Jul 01, 2005 9:11 am
#578

Green Marine were you In teh Corps and if so when and where?


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VitoGenovese
Fri Jul 01, 2005 1:27 pm
#579

Yup so far Publish 19 has been a huge let down for me too. I'm still not sure why they ever thought loot components for anything was a good idea. I'm not sure how they can say we are the "Masters of Crowd Control" when we have 2 redundant shots that immediately break on damage, 1 shot that has no discernable effect, 1 shot that kills us, and one shot that actually appears to be working. I'm not sure how we can smuggle since the last time I smuggled anything it was me walking into air conditioning from the outside.

If I could say something to the devs it would be this, "You are not finished yet. We are not fixed. You did not help us in any way. The game is even less fun now than it was before the CU, and not just for Smugglers. If you communicate with us, we will work with you. We don't want to be 'uber', we don't want to be FOTM. We just want a system that is fun and workable for everyone. We have posted thousands of suggestions. Correspondants have distilled those down into hundreds of recommendations, and still we see that the implementations are exactly the opposite of what is fun. Any fun I have in game is in spite of the developement of it, not because of it. Please let us help you. You have taken the first step by talking to us, now please take the second step and listen to our answers and take them into consideration when you code. A publish a week is not important. Far more important is proper beta testing so that bugs such as the creature and lair bug don't make it into the live game. It takes more than the 48 hours allowed to properly test your patches. We don't want everquest in space. No More Loot Drops."


Well thats more than 1 thing but it was a good rant I think.



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GanymedePharuu
Fri Jul 01, 2005 1:33 pm
#580

it was a great rant Vito.

/sigh...

it just too bad it falls on deaf ears down there in Austin



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Kohs V'sto
I wanted Smuggling for Christmas
but all i got was
<--- this stupid hat.

I am Jack's ignored profession.
Luke Skywalker is DEAD!
THEEVILFORCE
Fri Jul 01, 2005 3:01 pm
#581

what to say.....has anyone seen anyone else ask for these kinds of changes to smuggler or slicing? personaly i have not. why in the world do i need high end loot to slice. we want to smuggle or some neat things but who really asked for this garbage? will soe quit trying to force this garbage at us. i want to play a game to have fun, not go and hope a loot drops so i can slice 1 day. soe shows again why they dont have a single clue how to run a game.
David665
Fri Jul 01, 2005 3:22 pm
#582

How did we go from a mini-game for slicing, to the PoS we got with Pub 19?



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JorenNighthawke
Fri Jul 01, 2005 3:33 pm
#583

See you guys and gals later. I'm using my last respec to go BH.



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faub915
Fri Jul 01, 2005 4:25 pm
#584

I guess ill sign this, i have been around long enough to know it does no good.


Just a piece of advice for you younger players. Dont get your hopes up for this upgrade to be good. I was disappointed with the slicing changes but not suprised. Once you start looking at the game from that perspective you have lots more fun. In one way or another soe keeps their promise about game changes just never in the way the player base expects.



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chefNstuff
Fri Jul 01, 2005 4:38 pm
#585


I really dont envy GM....I think he honestly is trying to do a good job....hard when it appears the corporation you work for doesnt seem to care about its customer base......just crank up the marketing program and replace the bxxtxxds.


Very disheartening.


/cheers for GM

Message Edited by chefNstuff on 07-01-2005 07:46 PM



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