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Thread: Concerns about slicing.

chefNstuff
Thu Jun 30, 2005 1:18 am
#547

Just another short note about grouping: before combat upgrade (downgrade) I had the pleasure to group quite frequently with fellow teammates on various hunting expeditions. The groups were made up of a variety of professions and of different levels.


Since Combat Downgrade (upgrade as you call it) grouping has been nearly impossible....with the exception of my searching out newbies who want a level 80 to group with for the xp. This was you idea of improving the game....BAH!!! Then to make matters worse you removed any kind of decent resources from the game for....what is it now....how many months....seems like a year! So what the hell are we supposed to group to hunt??? DWB.... the jedi only dungeon???


I am very sad....even the emporer could have thought up a better plan than this.....then the only profession that has gotten NO real attention in 2 years and gets screwed even further in CU.......totally gets the shaft again in Patch 19.


Boy you guyz must be rolling in money to not give two hoots about the people who pay the bills.


Didnt anybody go to college and learn a little bit of simple psychology.....force people to do something and they resist....and with a passion!! As far as grouping is concerned you destroyed it for the forseeable future! So there goes any hope on your newest screw up.....smuggling plan B (blah). Who in their right mind is gonna share these components even if i was grouped with them....and dont forget the "Free for ALL" rule allowable in each group.


Everything you've done ....a few things withstanding....in both CU, Pub 18 ( gee my alts lights dont even work ...wow what a fix) and Pub 19....are the work of someone who totally doesnt understand or care about the people PAYING THE BILLS!!!


DOH!!! And I had a one time considered buying 2 more accounts to my existing 2.....boy was I confused.....or perhaps I was only drunk.....hmmm maybe thats who wrote this code.










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Wookus
Thu Jun 30, 2005 4:53 am
#548


Plan B sucks dudes.... 1 convertable kit out of a crate of 25? three hours of hunting on lok without a single drop? Ooh ooh - how about the fact that high end weapons are effectively unsliceable due to the hard caps?


Answer me this, oh high and mighty developers... how am i supposed to grind out my FS senses trees now that slicing xp has been removed completely? Am i supposed to drop a chunk of my tempolate just to get a different skill that i can convert? You gonna give me the last box i need? Somehow i doubt it. Good work here guys... outstanding job across the board.


Im starting to agree with all the cynics that post on these boards: your idea of "fixing" all the problems with the smuggler proffesion is to drive people out of it in frustration, hence reducing the incoming complaints.


Do me a favor.... tell me how i can go about getting the next eight months of my subscription fee back. After 16 mos of this nonsense i dont think i want to pay for the priveledge of being sodomized by SoE anymore.




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dlc3007
Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:28 am
#549

Can we lock this thread now? Please? Unless everyone is enjoying the little pity-party going on here.


You all are breaking my freakin' heart. "Poor me.... everyone hates us. Now I have to interact with other people in a multi-player game. I may have to buy loot components instead of making them from dirt-cheap, crappy materials." Oh, cry me a river.


If you hate this so much, why do you keep paying them? Seriously,I have lots of games I hated and don't play and I'm not even paying a subscription. Obviously, you can do what you want with your time and money, and if you wanna pay $15/month for a game you hate and the privilage of crying about it on forums, that's your choice. Just seems kinda silly to me.



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Ihovo
Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:52 am
#550

closing this threat will create hundreds of solo whining threats in the forum, why not keep them in here ^^
GanymedePharuu
Thu Jun 30, 2005 6:31 am
#551



dlc3007 wrote:

Can we lock this thread now? Please? Unless everyone is enjoying the little pity-party going on here.

You all are breaking my freakin' heart. "Poor me.... everyone hates us. Now I have to interact with other people in a multi-player game. I may have to buy loot components instead of making them from dirt-cheap, crappy materials." Oh, cry me a river.

If you hate this so much, why do you keep paying them? Seriously,I have lots of games I hated and don't play and I'm not even paying a subscription. Obviously, you can do what you want with your time and money, and if you wanna pay $15/month for a game you hate and the privilage of crying about it on forums, that's your choice. Just seems kinda silly to me.





i don't think that having to group, or having to make an effort to get a good slice is the problem most have.

it's the fact that once again they've put the focus on loot.
it's the fact that they didn't make the slicing system even the slightest bit fun or interesting or challenging.
the only challenge in slicing now is having to kill high end mobs, or bargain with a loot camper. and those challenges are NOT unique or interesting, and they have nothing to do with the idea of Smuggling.

"Plan B" is lame. it's just lame.

i don't care if they make getting a high-end slice the most difficult thing in the game. the effort is not the problem. it's the way they went about creating an effort.
plus it's the fact that any after slicing risk was removed. so we're back to a game where EVERYONE will have their weapons sliced. there's NOTHING special about it. it doesn't reflect the illegal nature of these sliced items.
it's just LAME!



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Eavik
Thu Jun 30, 2005 6:47 am
#552






dlc3007 wrote:

Can we lock this thread now? Please? Unless everyone is enjoying the little pity-party going on here.


You all are breaking my freakin' heart. "Poor me.... everyone hates us. Now I have to interact with other people in a multi-player game. I may have to buy loot components instead of making them from dirt-cheap, crappy materials." Oh, cry me a river.


If you hate this so much, why do you keep paying them? Seriously,I have lots of games I hated and don't play and I'm not even paying a subscription. Obviously, you can do what you want with your time and money, and if you wanna pay $15/month for a game you hate and the privilage of crying about it on forums, that's your choice. Just seems kinda silly to me.





Yeah!


Feedback? Suggestions? Comments? Bah!


Weshouldn't have any say in the path our chosen profession takes. We should just sit back and take what the devs give us and like it! If it's broken, too bad!




majorslappy
Thu Jun 30, 2005 6:47 am
#553






dlc3007 wrote:

Can we lock this thread now? Please? Unless everyone is enjoying the little pity-party going on here.


You all are breaking my freakin' heart. "Poor me.... everyone hates us. Now I have to interact with other people in a multi-player game. I may have to buy loot components instead of making them from dirt-cheap, crappy materials." Oh, cry me a river.


If you hate this so much, why do you keep paying them? Seriously,I have lots of games I hated and don't play and I'm not even paying a subscription. Obviously, you can do what you want with your time and money, and if you wanna pay $15/month for a game you hate and the privilage of crying about it on forums, that's your choice. Just seems kinda silly to me.





The problem is none of the things you stated. The problem IS, however, that with loot drops we will now be at the mercy of unscrupulous loot campers.



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Bachreus
Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:07 am
#554

When they first unveilled the new slicing mini-game it seemed so awesome and now, Its painful. I guess I will grind up jedi like everyone else and just loot camp so I can sell the compenets to smugglers. Less hassle and i will make much more money. Congrats.



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Nictolopy
Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:24 am
#555



riotcontrol wrote:
Oh, also... (regardless of the difficulty of dungeons in which the loot drops will happen) a much more starwarsy idea would be to gain the slicing components via, say... keeping a few of the components from the illegal weapon modification equipment crates you transport in Smuggling missions...

(Seriously, loot drops=ok for fantasy MMORPGs, but it should be Star Wars here... )

Message Edited by riotcontrol on 06-23-2005 09:15 PM





BRILLIANT idea. VERY smuggler-like. I really don't like depending all on loot drops. Crafting tools is fine. 100% loot drop dependancy doesn't sound like much fun.



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phantom542
Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:47 am
#556

probably been said but good pearls dont drop so why would good slicing loot drop. Why would a pearl that is a huge component for jedi drop from an ancient krayt that is easy to kill in a group but good slicing stuff drop from DWB that is a pain? Weapons inherantly do good damage where lightsabers don't. Sounds like the loot table is backwards to me.



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majorslappy
Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:59 am
#557

Should NOT have slicing tools be random loot. Loot camping = bane of all games.



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I don't like pointless grinds.
Thank you for reintroducing decay!!!
I like a complex, immersive world simulation, full of possibilities, challenges and roleplay.
I want a player driven, crafting-based economy.
Reyza
Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:42 am
#558

/final post as a master smuggler


Removing weapon/armor smiths ability to craft slicing components was a VERY bad idea. Plan B(ork) for slicing should have followed apattern similiar tocrafting generation 1-4 lightsabers with a slight modification.Novice weapon/armor smithswould have the most basic crafting functions for simple toolkits. To create progressively morecomplex slicing components wouldrequire specialized resources and master weapon/armor smiths to craft themlike the hair trigger assembly etc.


Rare loot drops could remain for those players who like to loot.


Sadly the prices for slicing components and slices are going to skyrocket thanks to pub19 and make slicing a relatively unviable profession for most.


Devs should have polled players about their opinions to upcoming changesfor the smugg profession to avoid such heartache and discord.


I'm just glad smuggling isn't the only profession in this game or I would have deleted my SOE account hours ago.



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gjholland
Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:58 am
#559


I re-subscribed last night after a year absence. I neglected to check the Smuggler forums, I didn't think they'd force Smugglers to farm loot for slicing. Just... wow... talk about non-Star Wars, non-fun, and non-sensical. Camping monsters for components to illegally modify weapons? What?


I should've checked the forums before I re-subscribed. As it stands, I'm one month and done again. This is ridiculous. I rolled a Smuggler to roleplay being a Smuggler, not another loot wh0re.



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