Smuggler Archive

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EdOWar wrote:

I don't have too much of a problem with Bounty Hunters tracking smugglers, but it would need to be tied into actual smuggling content. Take Han Solo for example. He smuggled spice for Jabba, which was illegal. And when his ship was boarded, he dumped the spice to avoid detection. Jabba insisted that Han owed him for the spice and, of course, Han couldn't, or wouldn't, pay up. So Jabba had to put a bounty on Han. It wasn't the government that put the bounty on Han for doing an illegal activity...it was Jabba, because Han sort of screwed up.

And that's the way Bounty Hunters against smugglers should be implemented. Smugglers get a mission or quest from a crimelord, be they Jabba, Valerian, Nym or someone else. Then, if you somehow screw up the mission, your name should go up on the BH terminals and an enterprising BHcan take it if they like. You shouldn't go up on the terminal just because you sliced some weapons or sold some spice...the government isn't going to hire a BH just to get youforlow-profile criminalstuff like that.

Slim Vargo, Corbantis

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1. I dont think anyone would get onto the BHterms because no one buys spice.

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Bzzzz wrote:

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FlyinDuke wrote:

I constantly re-read past posts, and there is one major thing I see. There are two major types of people.

The coolpeople who are giving ideas out that are challenging yet fair, and make the game more interesting.

And then the rest of the people who like the ideas, but don't like the challenge, who want the simple way out.

I am going to put it lightly. Being a Smuggler isn't supposed to be easy, it is supposed to be a challenge. You have people saying they shouldn't be hunted. Well what do you expect? A Bounty Hunter's main mission is to kill a smuggler and get money for it, we are supposed to be evasive, that is our nature. This isn't supopsed to be "Oh I'm a Smuggler, I can get away with anything and hide from anyone."

And people with the auto-pull...yes, I can see this is an issue, but comon, it isn't the biggest problem on our hands. If you are going to be slicing just fill your inventory to a point with WUKs and Tools. Complaining about it isn't going to solve it.

People on the Feign Death Nerf. You argue that you use it for PvE and it is awsome, heres the problem, this isn't just a PvE game, PvP is a major part in it. you can say it's somewhere between 50/50 or 60/40, either way, as to those who prefer PvP over PvE, or vice versa. The Devs have to make their decision to try to balance it for everything, and whining about how it will turn out doesn't get the Devs to work faster. We will just have to wait and see how that one turns out.

Thats all I can think about right now for this rant, maybe more later.

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Your rant confuses me. By "Cool People," you mean those that aren't bothered by the slicing bug,- no one is thrilled with it but we deal with it.want FD to be nerfed - who wants FD nerfed? and then want to be hunted? - cant take a little risk then go be an entertainer Do any of these people play smugglers?? - since day one n00b.

Playing around with conceptual ideas that will never be implemented is fine. - lol you new to this forum Getting them implemented into some revamp in the distant future is admirable.- again read some older threadsBut we need *something* in the meantime, - its been made very clear that nothing is going to happen until after JTL and a combat rebalence while we dont like it, many older smugglers have been fighting for a revamp for over a year, what makes you think thats going to change now? You think the dev's are going to listen to you after theve saidall revamps are on hold?and wanting us reducedbelow even the status quo isn't anything close to what I'd consider "cool." - what are you talking about? again nothing not the BH term addition or revamp is going to happen anytime soon, deal.

-Zz

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Bzzzz wrote:

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FlyinDuke wrote:

I constantly re-read past posts, and there is one major thing I see. There are two major types of people.

The coolpeople who are giving ideas out that are challenging yet fair, and make the game more interesting.

And then the rest of the people who like the ideas, but don't like the challenge, who want the simple way out.

I am going to put it lightly. Being a Smuggler isn't supposed to be easy, it is supposed to be a challenge. You have people saying they shouldn't be hunted. Well what do you expect? A Bounty Hunter's main mission is to kill a smuggler and get money for it, we are supposed to be evasive, that is our nature. This isn't supopsed to be "Oh I'm a Smuggler, I can get away with anything and hide from anyone."

And people with the auto-pull...yes, I can see this is an issue, but comon, it isn't the biggest problem on our hands. If you are going to be slicing just fill your inventory to a point with WUKs and Tools. Complaining about it isn't going to solve it.

People on the Feign Death Nerf. You argue that you use it for PvE and it is awsome, heres the problem, this isn't just a PvE game, PvP is a major part in it. you can say it's somewhere between 50/50 or 60/40, either way, as to those who prefer PvP over PvE, or vice versa. The Devs have to make their decision to try to balance it for everything, and whining about how it will turn out doesn't get the Devs to work faster. We will just have to wait and see how that one turns out.

Thats all I can think about right now for this rant, maybe more later.

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Your rant confuses me. By "Cool People," you mean those that aren't bothered by the slicing bug,- no one is thrilled with it but we deal with it.want FD to be nerfed - who wants FD nerfed? and then want to be hunted? - cant take a little risk then go be an entertainer Do any of these people play smugglers?? - since day one and far longer then you

Playing around with conceptual ideas that will never be implemented is fine. - lol you new to this forum Getting them implemented into some revamp in the distant future is admirable.- again read some older threadsBut we need *something* in the meantime, - its been made very clear that nothing is going to happen until after JTL and a combat rebalence while we dont like it, many older smugglers have been fighting for a revamp for over a year, what makes you think thats going to change now? You think the dev's are going to listen to you after they saidall revamps are on hold?and wanting us reducedbelow even the status quo isn't anything close to what I'd consider "cool." - what are you talking about? again nothing not the BH term addition or revamp is going to happen anytime soon, deal.

-Zz

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Message Edited by yimaz on 09-21-2004 03:58 PM

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yimaz wrote:

2 points though

1. I dont think anyone would get onto the BHterms because no one buys spice.

2. Slicing was mentioned I think only in extreme bulk slicesituations. (and spice in regards to mass production and sales)

I think you may be right however, mission terminal, NPC missions and *fingers crossed* player missions (smuggling tef'd and/or wanted jedi for example) should be more then enough trouble for us to get into with respect to BH's. The Dev's will need to put some time into developing worth wild missions/quests for us, we can only hope.

Underworld should be where smuggler mission/quest xpgoes and that skill tree should be used for things like:

skill 1 - /mask group tef (tef only not overt stat and only protectionfrom NPC attacks)

skill 2 - /mask from seeker droids (only works for said smuggler)

skill 3 - /mask jedi (only workswhen grouped with ajedi and for 1/2 hr only)

skill 4 - /slice Jedi names off the Bounty Hunter Terminals (but have a chance of it fail and if it does said smugglers name goes on the BH terms)

Keep what underworld has now andadd the new stuff, underworld should be the counter to the Investigation tree.

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Faderbain wrote:

Sounds like a vicious circle if you ask me.

1) Bounty Hunter seeks Smuggler to slice a weapon for him

2) Smuggler gets "marked".

3) Bounty Hunter kills Smuggler.. LOL

What if instead of marking a smuggler only for bounty hunters, the smuggler is marked on an opposing faction terminal.

Thus re-instating the long forgotten GCW. Imperials hunting down Rebel smugglers, Rebels seeking to end Imperial smuggling etc.

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Faderbain wrote:

Sounds like a vicious circle if you ask me.

1) Bounty Hunter seeks Smuggler to slice a weapon for him

2) Smuggler gets "marked".

3) Bounty Hunter kills Smuggler.. LOL - no one said anything about slicingone weapon and getting a mark. Also it says it was an option but if we have terminal missions there would reall not be a need for slice/spice marks, did you read the posts?

What if instead of marking a smuggler only for bounty hunters, the smuggler is marked on an opposing faction terminal. - the whole point is player content, not NPC content.

Thus re-instating the long forgotten GCW. Imperials hunting down Rebel smugglers, Rebels seeking to end Imperial smuggling etc. The GSW revamp is after the combat revamp which may be 4 to 12 yrs way, but still its being planed.

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Message Edited by yimaz on 09-22-2004 08:59 PM

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fishbrains wrote:

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PhoenixOrion wrote:

I don't care for forced PVP, so if BH is after me, Feign Death time. I have an alt account. I'll just alt-tab to it and wait out the BH. Plain and simple as that. I'm a patient man. Look how long I've been waiting for Smuggler to work!

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Funny sorty relating to something simmilar. Months ago I was PvPing alot and using FD a good deal. I got nasty tell after nasty tell so I changed my AFK message to this 'You are most likely sending me a /tell because you cannot kill me. Good job, I hope it makes you feel good. Just know that while you are standing over my body shooting me over and over that I'm in the kitchen making a sadwich. I'm thinking I'll go with ham today, what to you think? Well anyhoo it's ben nice being AFK with you, have a good time feing useless. Cheers '

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PhoenixOrion wrote:

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fishbrains wrote:

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PhoenixOrion wrote:

I don't care for forced PVP, so if BH is after me, Feign Death time. I have an alt account. I'll just alt-tab to it and wait out the BH. Plain and simple as that. I'm a patient man. Look how long I've been waiting for Smuggler to work!

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Funny sorty relating to something simmilar. Months ago I was PvPing alot and using FD a good deal. I got nasty tell after nasty tell so I changed my AFK message to this 'You are most likely sending me a /tell because you cannot kill me. Good job, I hope it makes you feel good. Just know that while you are standing over my body shooting me over and over that I'm in the kitchen making a sadwich. I'm thinking I'll go with ham today, what to you think? Well anyhoo it's ben nice being AFK with you, have a good time feing useless. Cheers '

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Yup. Just like in THIS picture, I went AFK and watched a movie, played some XBOX. Let them sit there and waste their time. I was being constructive with mine.

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