Smuggler Archive
Thread: Smugglers who Don't understand Smugglers
Golrok
Tue Sep 21, 2004 12:14 am
#27
Yea we need some action really bad. I like when someone attacks me first cause then there in no position to cry about dirty fighting. butI so dont careabout the stupid GCW and that drama, we needour own pvp going on outside that. Oh man, this game needs some actionSO bad. The Sims Online In Outer Space isnt going to cut it for memuch longer.
fishbrains
Tue Sep 21, 2004 12:15 am
#28
I don't think the Devs can help with that!
Golrok wrote:
Yea we need some action really bad. I like when someone attacks me first cause then there in no position to cry about dirty fighting. butI so dont careabout the stupid GCW and that drama, we needour own pvp going on outside that. Oh man, this game needs some actionSO bad. The Sims Online In Outer Space isnt going to cut it for memuch longer.
PhoenixOrion
Tue Sep 21, 2004 12:19 am
#29
I don't care for forced PVP, so if BH is after me, Feign Death time. I have an alt account. I'll just alt-tab to it and wait out the BH. Plain and simple as that. I'm a patient man. Look how long I've been waiting for Smuggler to work! 
fishbrains
Tue Sep 21, 2004 12:25 am
#31
PhoenixOrion wrote:
I don't care for forced PVP, so if BH is after me, Feign Death time. I have an alt account. I'll just alt-tab to it and wait out the BH. Plain and simple as that. I'm a patient man. Look how long I've been waiting for Smuggler to work!
Funny sorty relating to something simmilar. Months ago I was PvPing alot and using FD a good deal. I got nasty tell after nasty tell so I changed my AFK message to this 'You are most likely sending me a /tell because you cannot kill me. Good job, I hope it makes you feel good. Just know that while you are standing over my body shooting me over and over that I'm in the kitchen making a sadwich. I'm thinking I'll go with ham today, what to you think? Well anyhoo it's ben nice being AFK with you, have a good time feing useless. Cheers
'
fareone
Tue Sep 21, 2004 1:03 am
#33
when u master smuggler u should get +5k all thugs and criminal org. fp and ur name must be in bh terminals..and all sec forces must be ur enemy... i wanna slice people home doors and i wanna go inside and hide there... i want sniking skill for my thif skill ( haa?) ... i waan use my det droid in coronet and i wanna wound them...i want one option if anybody try to talk to me or examine to mei wanna attack them ( like calo nord thinks ..just kill someone try to talk to u..hehehe)...i want lats of thinks ..and i know they are just dreammmm
hrmpf2
Tue Sep 21, 2004 5:43 am
#34
I must admit, I don't like the idea of being forced to do a partial PvP template just to go about being a smuggler. If FD would make me immune to attacks, fair enough, but as of now I wouldn't want my armor ruined, also don't want to go to a med center begging for black bar patchups. While it would add excitment being hunted, I think it'd be (for lack of a better term) unfair if only the creators of spice 'n slice were to be punished, and I certainly don't want other players to do it. NPC raids fine, but not other players.
Also, if it was to be implemented, illegal should be illegal for everyone, got a sliced armor? Watch out when using it in cities. Got spice? Good luck catching a shuttle, you might get caught. If this is to happen, I'd at least expect us to have some additional positives, this could be spices actually being useful to most, "illegal" gear sold by vendors would have a chance to be discovered, simple thing could be "you're not allowed to sell this item on that vendor anymore". Smuggles should then recieve bonuses to not get caught. As I see some of the posts here, they want danger, they want to be hunted, but I don't want to unless my skills makes it worthwhile.
Also, if it was to be implemented, illegal should be illegal for everyone, got a sliced armor? Watch out when using it in cities. Got spice? Good luck catching a shuttle, you might get caught. If this is to happen, I'd at least expect us to have some additional positives, this could be spices actually being useful to most, "illegal" gear sold by vendors would have a chance to be discovered, simple thing could be "you're not allowed to sell this item on that vendor anymore". Smuggles should then recieve bonuses to not get caught. As I see some of the posts here, they want danger, they want to be hunted, but I don't want to unless my skills makes it worthwhile.
rogue_eight
Tue Sep 21, 2004 6:19 am
#35
"As I see some of the posts here, they want danger, they want to be hunted, but I don't want to unless my skills makes it worthwhile. "
Exactly.
Give me the tools to do the job that I want.
Exactly.
Give me the tools to do the job that I want.
yimaz
Tue Sep 21, 2004 6:49 am
#36
I think everyone is in agreement that before we are added to the BH terms we need to be revamped. I dont think anyone (who is pushing this)is saying just put us in the sites of BH's right now and as is. I for one cant wait for a full re-vamp that includes asonly one part,a risk vs reward type of system that is used as a way to fairly put Smugglers on the BH terminals. Smuggler should be a dangerous profession and we need to be added to the BH terminals in a manner which lets the smuggler (to a degree)deside just how dangerous he wants his life to be. There are a ton of great ideas on how to do this in a fair manner here in this forum, just digg a few pagesback andIm sure they will turn up.Truth of the matter (for me) is if your afraid to be hunted by a BH then theSmuggler life is not for you and I mean that with all due respect.
Vrond
Tue Sep 21, 2004 7:50 am
#37
I still want to have to have risked something to show up on a terminal.Let me take a hard mission and fail then sure yeah a BH can come after me. So a smuggler who wants to avoid pvp just takes only low end missions and stays off the terminals.
Will I take these missions yep you bet. I want to smuggle something we need our own mission terminalswith its own risks and rewards and the BH terminals need to get fixed so their existing missions work.
Do I want some one to be able to hunt me when ever I log on just because I am a smuggler? Nope when I want that I go overt and stay overt till some one kills me (some time till they kill me several times)
Basically what I am saying is if I get aded risk I want added reward to go with it. When I pvp I go overt. If I could go overt as a criminal faction (Hutt or what ever) I would.
No matter what happens I dont forsee any change in the short term. JTL and hopefully some kind of rebalance is coming. Long term I want a a full smuggler revamp I want at least as much content for smugglers as they have put in for Jedi anything else will be a disapointment.
SpinningCloud
Tue Sep 21, 2004 8:19 am
#38
There needs to be something we can do that has HIGH reward but risks us getting put on the BH terms if we are careless or fail.
We should NOT go on the terms for doing what we do now...the reward simply isn't there.
Before I want to be on BH terms I want the whole visibility/tef mess with BHs fixed. Right now the jedi-bh system is completely screwed up. I don't want to be added in to a botched system. Fix it first.
Then, IF we are going to be hunted we need some pistol skill increases in our pistol line. The specials alone are NOT going to give us a chance against a BH with a second fighting skill set.
The can still keep us generally weaker than a BH IF, and I mean IF IF IF they give us smuggler type means of evading the BH...like slicing terms and seeker bot systems so that the BH is mislead. Or disguises so we can hide out. Or means of gaining positive fp with like Black Sun so we can walk into the Death Watch bunker and stay safe.
Unfortunately I'm a skeptic that ANYTHING like this will happen in my lifetime with this game...sorry SOE but your trackrecord gives you NO credibility with me in the matter of Smuggler Revamp.
true_Kieran
Tue Sep 21, 2004 8:39 am
#39
yimaz wrote:
I think everyone is in agreement that before we are added to the BH terms we need to be revamped. I dont think anyone (who is pushing this)is saying just put us in the sites of BH's right now and as is. I for one cant wait for a full re-vamp that includes asonly one part,a risk vs reward type of system that is used as a way to fairly put Smugglers on the BH terminals. Smuggler should be a dangerous profession and we need to be added to the BH terminals in a manner which lets the smuggler (to a degree)deside just how dangerous he wants his life to be. There are a ton of great ideas on how to do this in a fair manner here in this forum, just digg a few pagesback andIm sure they will turn up.Truth of the matter (for me) is if your afraid to be hunted by a BH then theSmuggler life is not for you and I mean that with all due respect.
The number in my first post is the exact number of posts in the smuggler forum containing the word bounty (did a search before posting) and 50%-75% of these posts belong to threads which arecontaining these ideas, pros and cons, hundreds of examples and so on! It seems some already understood what I wanted to say since I had 7 replys and no one asking what the meaning of this number was.