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Thread: Nerf call for Last Ditch

Kells
Fri May 13, 2005 8:18 am
#40






Navarchos wrote:

Just to give you guy's a heads up in case you don't know but there are people on the Jedi Forums complaining that Last Ditch is overpowered and are calling for it to be nerfed.


Apparently some enterprising PistoleerBounty Hunters have been using it as a last resort in combat and have managed to drop Master Defenders in one go with it. Apparently it's being used by BH/Riflemen as well, I hate to think how much damage a Last Ditched T-21 shot does but I bet it hurts. Lots.






I was dueling my buddy last night, just practicing. I used Last Ditch in five of the duels, once it incapped him in one hit. Second time I missed and was incapped. Third timeI hit him, but didn't incap. Fourth time I missed and was incapped. Fifth time I hit but didn't incap. Personally I do not see this as overpowered. Last ditch is, exactly what it should be. A throw all your eggs into one basket move. Something a man with nothing to lose uses. Speaking as a fully templated Jedi and a Smuggler I would not be upset if I got one hit incapped by Last Ditch. Why? Because I know that he/she pulled a gutsy move and that it easily could of backfired on him/her. Bottom line is you roll the dice, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Deal with it.



Bo' Tinsu
JiganSterling
Fri May 13, 2005 8:37 am
#41






Kells wrote:





Navarchos wrote:

Just to give you guy's a heads up in case you don't know but there are people on the Jedi Forums complaining that Last Ditch is overpowered and are calling for it to be nerfed.


Apparently some enterprising PistoleerBounty Hunters have been using it as a last resort in combat and have managed to drop Master Defenders in one go with it. Apparently it's being used by BH/Riflemen as well, I hate to think how much damage a Last Ditched T-21 shot does but I bet it hurts. Lots.






I was dueling my buddy last night, just practicing. I used Last Ditch in five of the duels, once it incapped him in one hit. Second time I missed and was incapped. Third timeI hit him, but didn't incap. Fourth time I missed and was incapped. Fifth time I hit but didn't incap. Personally I do not see this as overpowered. Last ditch is, exactly what it should be. A throw all your eggs into one basket move. Something a man with nothing to lose uses. Speaking as a fully templated Jedi and a Smuggler I would not be upset if I got one hit incapped by Last Ditch. Why? Because I know that he/she pulled a gutsy move and that it easily could of backfired on him/her. Bottom line is you roll the dice, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Deal with it.





This is about the same results I get from it as well. Though the jedi see it as working every time and doing ungodly damag, when this, in fact, is not the case.



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Erryc
Fri May 13, 2005 8:54 am
#42

Yes, this is spiralling to new levels. These 'middle ground' Jedi that are supposedly coming over to 'make peace' with us...watch the olive branch...one hand may hold the dove, the other has a glowbat ready to swing. It's always the same, try to calm us down while they work to destroy something.



I dare the Jedi to say its not true. Like it or not, you guys are JUST ANOTHER PROFESSION in this game, and if you feel you suck more than everyone else, you have the same option we do...



FIND ANOTHER PROFESSION. There is no such thing as an 'end game' in an MMO, so stop thinking that just because your community is smaller than most, you're elite. There's less shipwrights in the game then you, nobody calls them 'elite'. Hell, they don't even WHINE like you guys do, and have you ever seen the almost-perverted amounts of resources they have to expend to make one dinky ship??? That, and Jedi can't use their glowsticks to mine asteroids (but I'm sure you'll all be whining about THAT soon, and the devs will give you a /jedispaceminefrommyhousesoabounterhuntercantgetme ability).



No more whining from the Jedi, you guys have used all of your Wussy cards.





***Eyini Resresit***

Master Smuggler

The Black Widows

An Underworld Player Association

Sunrunner

Save your local smugglers, kill a jedi.
Erryc
Fri May 13, 2005 9:03 am
#43

/bodyslam Boycarino



doh!





***Eyini Resresit***

Master Smuggler

The Black Widows

An Underworld Player Association

Sunrunner

Save your local smugglers, kill a jedi.
dlc3007
Fri May 13, 2005 9:12 am
#44

The only way the Jedi have any case about LD or any other move in the game is if either of the following two conditions come into play:


1) They come off the terms and everyone, and I mean everyone, can attack them.


2) They suffer perma-death if their experience bottoms out at a certain level. Get below -x exp, toon goes bye-bye.


Personally, I'd accept a nerf to LD if option 2 was put in the game. Heck, I'd even grind up BH at that point.




Imperial Col. Croda L'to

Jedi kiss their sisters -- repeatedly.



Zombie_Arsani wrote: Quiet jedi, grownups are talking.
Erryc
Fri May 13, 2005 9:17 am
#45

hehehhe. No kidding. Then we'd be talking 'balance'. Less Jedi, more balance.



We should jump on that bandwagon, eh? Since the Jedi decided they don't like us now, lets hop on the 'get rid of the jedi altogether' bandwagon, as the whole smuggler community, and do our best to eradicate these religious zealots.



Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side





***Eyini Resresit***

Master Smuggler

The Black Widows

An Underworld Player Association

Sunrunner

Save your local smugglers, kill a jedi.
Onahj_Zicohr
Fri May 13, 2005 9:22 am
#46

The Jedi are just whiners. Seems like every other profession I was was whiners... I love being part of this community. Last Ditch is just that... When it does work it doesn't guarantee anything...

I saw a post yesterday that was about a bounty hunter who had killed his 200th Unique Jedi... What is wrong with that picture... My Sig says it all. It was borrowed but it is MORE THAN THE TRUTH!!!.



Zanus Starsider
Master Smuggler - Master Bounty Hunter
Starsider


CapnKate
Fri May 13, 2005 9:25 am
#47

If LD is nerfed, I'm going after Defender. Everyone should. This is just ridiculous. Can someone inform Wes that the devs need to be made aware that we will be unholy amounts of pissed off if this one comes to pass?

On the SW note... Heh. I'm both. We finally got some engine love the other day, only about 6 months overdue. I sure can pick 'em. (Though the Elite engines seem to be rather borked now, instead. I can make Mark 5 Engines that outperform Elite engines... and the elites have 2 of 4 resources that are locked at 1000OQ.... Whee, fix me)



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Kaitlin Mainwaring, Kettemoor - Master Smuggler/Master Shipwright/Rebel Ace
--Former SpaceBeta1 Master Tester
JacobHiggins
Fri May 13, 2005 9:26 am
#48

The Jedi are whinners. Hopefully the devs will get sick of them whinning too and will not listen to there crazy and ridiculous demands!
Erryc
Fri May 13, 2005 9:26 am
#49

ya i love SW. Goes well, methinks, as a role-play cover...my 'sister' (alt) is a shipwright, with our smuggling business out of the back room.



***Eyini Resresit***

Master Smuggler

The Black Widows

An Underworld Player Association

Sunrunner

Save your local smugglers, kill a jedi.
Ipseck
Fri May 13, 2005 9:36 am
#50

lol.. so someone was actually able to kill a master defender? OMG NERF!


you know somethings forked when thats their argument.





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eMaster Smuggler - "Deliverer of goods"e
N"Captain Moody"N
Thochkored
Fri May 13, 2005 9:44 am
#51

It is just ridiculous, how they say if they are owning you they are great PvPers and if we use LD we are bad PvPers. Figure out how LD works and counter it, if you are such a great PvPer Jedi. I swear these must be the same people who use Hacks in Counter Strike.




Ackaak Adack
Bloodfin
"Wars not make one great."

Davian Shaw
Bloodfin
"You came in that thing?"
CapnKate
Fri May 13, 2005 9:44 am
#52

Technically their argument is that LD is a "one-hit-kill" and those aren't supposed to exist, but the premise is faulty on so many levels it hurts.



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Kaitlin Mainwaring, Kettemoor - Master Smuggler/Master Shipwright/Rebel Ace
--Former SpaceBeta1 Master Tester
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