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Thread: Smuggler Request to the Devs to clarify the changes on Feign Death. What does it mean to us?
Daturaze
Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:21 pm
#40
Yep - despite Tigg's message in the Test Centre forum generated PAGES of messages begging for clarification - she's come back with that one liner.
Personally - I find it a little condescending, a little insulting, and shows the regards Smugglers are held in.
And this coming from *me* a self described "moderate, non confrontation" forum poster.
Granted, I've come to the conclusion that FD doesn't have a place in FD (sorry Yimaz) but the lack of information surrounding the mechanics of this change is what's driving me nutty.
Dat
And with a smiley like "All better!"
Yeah - that's the part that really set me off. I mean, Like I said, I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing but for the love of <insert your own god here> give us some details. I mean, we're going to get a good idea over the next day from testers - but why subject the community to this stress of uncertainty?? It's not called for at all.
Tiggs
Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:23 pm
#41
Smuggler peoples,
This was a fix for bug that was/is happening. My apologies for the one-liner but it is a bit busy around here and I was trying to get you the information and juggle other things at the same time. At any rate, right now (on live) you can not be incapacitated while feigning. This is not as designed. We fixed this so that a person can be incapacitated while feigning.
mturnage
Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:23 pm
#42
Smuggler_Caylin wrote:
mturnage wrote:
Basically now, you have to wait on the incapp timer to get back up. It used to be next hit you'd Feigh but be able to get right back up even though the damage went past your HAM. Now, you'll be incapped if the damage is more than the HAM, but your opponent(s) will NOT be able to deathblow you. With the recenct incap changes (making the wait time smaller) this really doesn't make a difference.
Well so long as the three-incap rule doesn't apply, then I'll give this a thumbs up. What if you incap three times while in fd and incap outside of it, will you die?
Message Edited by Smuggler_Caylin on 02-18-2005 02:18 PM
That I can't verify. I can tell you that if youincap while Feighing, then a DOT makes you incap again, and again, and again, you WON'T perma. You can incap multiple times while Feighing but never die.
RagNoRock5x
Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:24 pm
#43
This might actualy be a blessing in discuise as a nerf.
In PvE combat when you FD the MOB stays Argoed to you.
However with this new change making it so that you can be incaped but not DBed the MOB will un argo you. Basicaly a more convencing FD.
...... This will mess up my Axkva Min hunting technique a bit...... grrrr.... However will keep me from dieing in the stron hold so much 
Rajtinka
Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:25 pm
#44
So ... FD has been broken since launch and now its being "fixed" I may have been born at night.... but it was not last night ... please!
SmugglinZane
Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:25 pm
#45
Tiggs wrote:
Smuggler peoples,
This was a fix for bug that was/is happening. My apologies for the one-liner but it is a bit busy around here and I was trying to get you the information and juggle other things at the same time. At any rate, right now (on live) you can not be incapacitated while feigning. This is not as designed. We fixed this so that a person can be incapacitated while feigning.
This makes no sense. If you are feigning, you are supposed to appear dead. Why would you get incap'd if you are dead? Not working as intended makes no sense. Maybe not being used as intended so the Smugglers will have to eat crap with one of their skills is more like it.
Regardless, thanks for trying to clear this up a little more. I know you're just the messenger, and I hope everyone else realises this as well.
riotcontrol
Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:25 pm
#46
Great, now we got the same oneliner, but in five sentences...
Dubolom
Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:25 pm
#47
Tiggs, sorry, but this is still not helpful. The main question is: once incapped while FD, can we be deathlowed?
Tiggs wrote:
Smuggler peoples,
This was a fix for bug that was/is happening. My apologies for the one-liner but it is a bit busy around here and I was trying to get you the information and juggle other things at the same time. At any rate, right now (on live) you can not be incapacitated while feigning. This is not as designed. We fixed this so that a person can be incapacitated while feigning.
Boatsheets
Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:26 pm
#48
Tiggs wrote:Smuggler peoples,This was a fix for bug that was/is happening. My apologies for the one-liner but it is a bit busy around here and I was trying to get you the information and juggle other things at the same time. At any rate, right now (on live) you can not be incapacitated while feigning. This is not as designed. We fixed this so that a person can be incapacitated while feigning.
But can they be DB'd while FD?
RuytooBasgar
Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:26 pm
#49
mturnage wrote:
Smuggler_Caylin wrote:
mturnage wrote:
Basically now, you have to wait on the incapp timer to get back up. It used to be next hit you'd Feigh but be able to get right back up even though the damage went past your HAM. Now, you'll be incapped if the damage is more than the HAM, but your opponent(s) will NOT be able to deathblow you. With the recenct incap changes (making the wait time smaller) this really doesn't make a difference.
Well so long as the three-incap rule doesn't apply, then I'll give this a thumbs up. What if you incap three times while in fd and incap outside of it, will you die?
Message Edited by Smuggler_Caylin on 02-18-2005 02:18 PM
That I can't verify. I can tell you that if youincap while Feighing, then a DOT makes you incap again, and again, and again, you WON'T perma. You can incap multiple times while Feighing but never die.
Mturnage, have you tested today? If not these results are meaningless as the patch went in today for the FD "change".
Daturaze
Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:26 pm
#50
Tiggs wrote:
Smuggler peoples,
This was a fix for bug that was/is happening. My apologies for the one-liner but it is a bit busy around here and I was trying to get you the information and juggle other things at the same time. At any rate, right now (on live) you can not be incapacitated while feigning. This is not as designed. We fixed this so that a person can be incapacitated while feigning.
OK, I give up.
I'm just going to walk away and wait for the info to come from testers.
JTGAlpha
Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:27 pm
#51
Took you guys THAT long to fix this? Since LAUNCH?
Okay, Tiggs, fine, but can you have some explain to us what the purpose of Feigning Death is? Because Mobs still attack you if you feign death even if they are 2km away or more. So if I still get incapped, and I get incapped three times and die, and the purpose of Feigning Death is to AVOID dying, then what's the poing of feigning death in PvE, which was where Feign Death was SUPPOSED to be used to begin with?
Danei
Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:28 pm
#52
Tiggs wrote:Smuggler peoples,This was a fix for bug that was/is happening. My apologies for the one-liner but it is a bit busy around here and I was trying to get you the information and juggle other things at the same time. At any rate, right now (on live) you can not be incapacitated while feigning. This is not as designed. We fixed this so that a person can be incapacitated while feigning.
So, instead of actually having a five second chance of turning a one-way battle around, we can instead hit the FD button, and not worry about the valuable time.
What's the point of feign death, if it can't feign death?