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Thread: Concerns about slicing.

Cooter_Scylla
Fri Jun 24, 2005 3:32 pm
#430






ZionHalcyon wrote:


No, it just reinforces the point that you need a good GROUP. Seriously, 1/3 of this thread is overreaction by people who seem to want to slice uber for free or cheap.

Besides, a smuggler can hire a group to get components for him, or buy the components off of trade forums, and then charge even more for the slice - there is no need for a smuggler to get his hands dirty.






It's not about wanting to slice free or cheap, it's not wanting to be turned into loot farmers. I'm happy that loot farming is something you enjoy, but it has ZERO to do with what a smuggler is supposed to be.


We could get the same rarity from smuggler missions that have a percantage to randomly reward us with the slice component we need. This would be specifically a smuggler targeted drop in that way. So, level 4 slicing is supposed to be rare, drop the percentage of recieving thatreward to 1%. This has the same effect as having rare loot drops, except this time it actually has something to do with being a smuggler.


Hooray for people that like to farm, they found something they like. You know what, you don't have to be a smuggler to farm so this isn't really content for smugglers then is it? Just loot farmers. I can understand defending it so much, afterall, it is a way to start to makemillions moreoff of a new outlet that hasn't been exhausted yet.






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Fri Jun 24, 2005 4:19 pm
#431






ZionHalcyon wrote:





LordKilgore wrote:



I'll go back to the post I made earlier. I'm not worried about reselling sliced weapons or telling people if they want uber slices they have to bring the uber stuff themselves. I'm in it for myself, I want to know how I will get the stuff to slice my personal weapons. And if you say trade forums that's just BS for the people who have XXX millions of credits. I have 1 million on a good day if i'm lucky, I want to know what I would have to do to get this kinda stuff. No one ever talks about how you get millions of credits (besides the ebay, are you encouraging it?) they just say don't complain when stuff costs that much.

I've played the game for 6 months now the only people I know in game that have several million at one time have all ebayed it. Is this the only way to get it? If so, then people should complain about the high prices.


Now, I'm trying to just bash..I'm simply saying that for the non-ebayer or non-hardcore gamer it is next to imposible to ever expect to get this kinda stuff.





I have been playing this game for 2 years. I am the original Zion (no ebay), never bought credits on ebay, and am hardly a hardcore gamer (although I do piss away too much time on this game doing absolutely nothing - hardly powergaming, but entertaining for me nonetheless).


You get little sympathy from me, because I too, for the longest time, had to fight to make my money. But you know what? With ADK's in the game there is NO EXCUSE for you to whine about trade forum components. There is a market value - use your time, and while out hunting, grinding, and such, work to make some credits, and get what the market value is for a sliced component. Then keep trying to get one, until you succeed, or get enough money to put you over the top. Then you get your super sliced weapon, and adk it, using the same method to pay if you have to.


Sorry, but I know plenty of people who have earned every credit the hard way, including myself, so your BS about ebayed credits is falling on deaf ears. Here's a credit n00b, tell someone who cares - not preaching to some regular gamerwho has busted their butt for every credit they got, like me.






Its good to know that there is only a limited number of ADKs on each Server.For you, this play style, being a powergamer, hardcore gamer or however you want to put it its not a problem.. oh yea.. you forgot to mention YOUR Team in this post.


Seriously.. this thing about about keeping high end Slices rareis not what most peoples herethink is bad.. its that those components might put into places where not everyone can get to.Keep High End Slices rare? Hell yea.. but dont turn our Profession into Loot wh0res. As i said before, you can keep the high end slices rare without making the components only for those accesible who have lotsa friends.



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AldaronTavish
Fri Jun 24, 2005 4:34 pm
#432

After some thought I like the loot idea. Slices....all slices.....should be something that is uncommon. Not everyone should have all their weapons and armor sliced like what was happening pre-cu. The loot needs will keep sliced stuff uncommon and high sliced stuff rare.

As for getting the loot, well as has been said the customer can bring the loot to you and if you just want it for yourself then I'm sure there are deals that can be cut or some way to get it without spending tons of money.



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JWing
Fri Jun 24, 2005 5:06 pm
#433



GreenMarine wrote:
Don't trash your upgrade kits. We're going to see about adding a salvage option to them that turns them into one of the new components, randomly. (With the higher level ones being rare, etc). Also, the high end components can now be found on Krayts, etc.





Just a quick thought. Us Smugglers like to RP out characters. Where is the RP aspect of looting a mechanical device off a Kyrat, etc. ?????


Can we please make this change to only high end NPC mobs? For the RP sake.



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DoMakk
Fri Jun 24, 2005 6:22 pm
#434







Saarek wrote:





crowmedic wrote:





Daturaze wrote:






Fatismo wrote:


I had an idea..... how about you give the smuggler the ability to break apart electronic items for their craft. That's where we get the components for the slicing from.


Weaponsmiths / Armorsmiths / Artisans make crates of weapons / armor / powerups. Have you ever seen a reason to keep a 'broken data pad' around? No most people delete them.


Let the smugglers break apart these items, and get components from them. "Junk", old weapons, CDEF pistols, crappy armor, crates of Artisan Knives.


This will keep the demand in for Armorsmith / Weaponsmith / Artisans and the regular joe's who find looted "junk" items.


Just and idea... what do you other smugglers think?






Kinda like Shipwrights and RE'ing their space loot to find Firespray schematic disks!



Plus, this does kinda fit a smuggler/tinkering type of image.


I like it!




Now that is an AWESOME idea !



Definately a cool idea.



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DoMakk
Fri Jun 24, 2005 6:25 pm
#435






Killa-Kell-Krushin wrote:




Jaspor wrote:

Hey, I looted 6 of these trigger thingys, will you slice one of them into my rifle!"

"Sure, but only if I get to keep 2 of them..."


Booya.


That would be sweet!



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rexan
Fri Jun 24, 2005 6:36 pm
#436






GreenMarine wrote:
Don't trash your upgrade kits. We're going to see about adding a salvage option to them that turns them into one of the new components, randomly. (With the higher level ones being rare, etc). Also, the high end components can now be found on Krayts, etc.






Thanks for putting the loot drops on areas outside the DWB. But would you also consider allowing the CL81 blacksuns and possibly other MOBs like nightsisters to drop them too?



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Xoreshear
Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:27 pm
#437

Hey if they want to get the required drop I'll slice it in



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XonarIII
Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:31 pm
#438

After getting really pissed about this i figure ...meh i just wont slice even if they have the parts......i guess ill just have to hold my breath for the smuggling content.



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Raylonis
Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:38 pm
#439



Sedoo wrote:



Selusa wrote:


Well.... saying I do use lvl 54 weapons on all my toons... with no cert... I don't NEED uber pistols to accomplish what I need to do. It may take longer, yes, but I don't need them.


The game is full of level 54 weapons that outdamage lightsabers with or without pearls. What's your point?






I think the point is that jedi aren't the cats meow and shouldn't be.
gassygunslinger
Fri Jun 24, 2005 11:05 pm
#440

Promise us that these components will be available through smuggling, and I'll be all for this. If not, this is just a quick fix solution (that will probably take just about as much time to download ad the jawa traders) that only adds content to loot campers. This is not new content. This is just basicly the same thing as crafters do, with a bit of "underwold" thrown in to disguise it. It's not innovative. It's not different. If I wanted to make weapons great by the help of powergamers giving me supplies I'd be a weaponsmith. If they give you smuggler missions that are just like delivery missions, you would feel pissed too!



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Sedoo
Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:02 am
#441






HadishiJr wrote:

Krayts die by the truckload on Bria at the hands of players farming tissue. Pearls get sold when they are looted. I'm sure you're familiar with this. None of this has any chance, no matter how remote, to hurt your pearl drops. If this has never been an issue on Bria, which is more than likely twice as crowded as whatever server you play on, I'm sure you won't even notice.


I never saw any issue before this, and I'm quite sure there won't be one after. Krayts are one of many things that will supposedly drop these items.


I highly doubt any of your concerns will be acknoweledged any anyone, since they are quite silly.





Since I have these "silly" concerns and you seem to be well informed would you mind posting links to Dev acknowldgements that prior adjustments to the krayt loot tables have had no effect on pearl drops. I cannot seem to locate them myself.




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DigiDante
Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:07 am
#442



Sedoo wrote:


HadishiJr wrote:

Krayts die by the truckload on Bria at the hands of players farming tissue. Pearls get sold when they are looted. I'm sure you're familiar with this. None of this has any chance, no matter how remote, to hurt your pearl drops. If this has never been an issue on Bria, which is more than likely twice as crowded as whatever server you play on, I'm sure you won't even notice.

I never saw any issue before this, and I'm quite sure there won't be one after. Krayts are one of many things that will supposedly drop these items.

I highly doubt any of your concerns will be acknoweledged any anyone, since they are quite silly.



Since I have these "silly" concerns and you seem to be well informed would you mind posting links to Dev acknowldgements that prior adjustments to the krayt loot tables have had no effect on pearl drops. I cannot seem to locate them myself.





And you really are just worrying to much about this. Seriously, you do not NEED pearls to play this game, yes they are desirable and some may find them needy, but like me, I will not NEED these components to slice, but they are desirable.

Jedi is not the only profession in the game that worries about loot drops. Be kind and share.



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