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Thread: Smugglers who Don't understand Smugglers

PaulyX
Mon Sep 20, 2004 11:42 am
#14

1) What's the point of being hunted when we can't be killed? See: Feign Death

2) What are the rewards for being hunted? Jedi have ubar skillz of doom. Smugglers have spice which has no market and slice which again has no real market.


At this point in time, smugglers don't *do* anything illegal enough to be hunted for.





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FlyinDuke
Mon Sep 20, 2004 11:55 am
#15






PhoenixOrion wrote:





FlyinDuke wrote:


A Bounty Hunter's main mission is to kill a smuggler and get money for it, we are supposed to be evasive, that is our nature.



Buzz. Wrong. A Bounty Hunter's Main Mission is to kill a MARK and get money for it. Not a smuggler. Not a Jedi. A Mark.


If they are going to make Smugglers part of bounties, they need to add in every other class in the game.


But before that, they need to work on fixing Jedi Bounties FIRST - b/c even those don't work - so non-Jedi bounties aren't going to work either.


I'm all for a BH after me as a Smuggler - as long as it works for the both of us, not just me.









So according to you, this doesn't work


Boba Fett = Bounty Hunter


Han Solo = Smuggler


Boba Fett Hunts Han Solo for money


im not talking about in game, in the Star Wars universe, Bounty hunters hunt whoever has money on their head, usually that class is smugglers.


No, you don't have to add every class into it, because we are the real illegal people, other people doing other illegal things would get on this system too (see the revamp idea)


They need to make this one big revamp




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yimaz
Mon Sep 20, 2004 1:29 pm
#16




'You are most likely sending me a /tell because you cannot kill me. Good job, I hope it makes you feel good. Just know that while you are standing over my body shooting me over and over that Im in the kitchen making a sadwich. I'm thinking I'll go with ham today, what to you think? Well anyhoo it's ben nice being AFK with you, have a good time feing useless. Cheers '



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Novock
Mon Sep 20, 2004 1:57 pm
#17

Bring on the Bounty Hunters!!!!! Hey I've got np with smugglers getting hits placed on them. Sounds fun. We need some improvements so that we can be more elllusive first but when we are cornered and our back is against the wall some ability o defended outselves. But by all means bring on the money and the bounty hubnters!!!! woot woot I've got a few suprizes for em hehe.


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Novock: "yea is it dangerous?"

Jabba: "lets say the money is good.... if you live (hahhahhaha)"

Novock: "Hmmm dangerous, high probablity to lose my life..... I'm there baby!"



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Eivo
Mon Sep 20, 2004 2:31 pm
#18

I know in the past if has posted against marks on smugglers, and if things stay the way they are, I am still against it. Many have posted here as to why I am against it, that becuase there is no counterbalance. If we had a reward of some type is we complete our missions then I would have no problem with it. But it had better be a good reward. As for BH marks, I think not only we should be subject to it, but ANYONE who owns, uses, or crafts (with schematics if they're not a smuggler) spice or owns sliced equipment should be subject to it. Whats the difference if there is an artisan poppin spice and a smuggler poppin spice, nothing, both are performing illegal acts and should be on the terms for it. But I do think that smugglers (which are really are not, we are criminals more or less) should have an escape plan since they are expecting recourse for their actions. Anyways, i think all this waiting for the revamp is making everyone "on edge". I need to stop reading the boards all the time lol.
Retroalias
Mon Sep 20, 2004 2:34 pm
#19



FlyinDuke wrote:
I constantly re-read past posts, and there is one major thing I see. There are two major types of people.
The cool people who are giving ideas out that are challenging yet fair, and make the game more interesting.
And then the rest of the people who like the ideas, but don't like the challenge, who want the simple way out.
I am going to put it lightly. Being a Smuggler isn't supposed to be easy, it is supposed to be a challenge. You have people saying they shouldn't be hunted. Well what do you expect? A Bounty Hunter's main mission is to kill a smuggler and get money for it, we are supposed to be evasive, that is our nature. This isn't supopsed to be "Oh I'm a Smuggler, I can get away with anything and hide from anyone."
And people with the auto-pull...yes, I can see this is an issue, but comon, it isn't the biggest problem on our hands. If you are going to be slicing just fill your inventory to a point with WUKs and Tools. Complaining about it isn't going to solve it.
People on the Feign Death Nerf. You argue that you use it for PvE and it is awsome, heres the problem, this isn't just a PvE game, PvP is a major part in it. you can say it's somewhere between 50/50 or 60/40, either way, as to those who prefer PvP over PvE, or vice versa. The Devs have to make their decision to try to balance it for everything, and whining about how it will turn out doesn't get the Devs to work faster. We will just have to wait and see how that one turns out.
Thats all I can think about right now for this rant, maybe more later.





Great post.



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Retroalias
Mon Sep 20, 2004 2:52 pm
#20



BrekCoronus wrote:
I agree that a smuggler's life should be somewhat dangerous. However, the risks must be justified by rewards, and there just plain aren't any right now. Weaponsmiths sell weapons pre-sliced for the most part, and the spice market is just plain dead. Frankly, I'm just a pistoleer with a few extra moves at this point.





That is the way I look at it as well.



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Smuggler_Caylin
Mon Sep 20, 2004 3:03 pm
#21






fishbrains wrote:


Funny sorty relating to something simmilar. Months ago I was PvPing alot and using FD a good deal. I got nasty tell after nasty tell so I changed my AFK message to this 'You are most likely sending me a /tell because you cannot kill me. Good job, I hope it makes you feel good. Just know that while you are standing over my body shooting me over and over that I'm in the kitchen making a sadwich. I'm thinking I'll go with ham today, what to you think? Well anyhoo it's ben nice being AFK with you, have a good time feing useless. Cheers '





Hehehe very nice


I'm somewhat like that, but most of the time I prefer telling them one thing, then doing another. 'Have fun black-barring me, I'm mowing the yard.'If they move off, I shoot them in the back of the head, if not, then I make my sandwich, go out and get a drink or watch a movie.



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JimmyRay
Mon Sep 20, 2004 3:36 pm
#22






Smuggler_Caylin wrote:





fishbrains wrote:


Funny sorty relating to something simmilar. Months ago I was PvPing alot and using FD a good deal. I got nasty tell after nasty tell so I changed my AFK message to this 'You are most likely sending me a /tell because you cannot kill me. Good job, I hope it makes you feel good. Just know that while you are standing over my body shooting me over and over that I'm in the kitchen making a sadwich. I'm thinking I'll go with ham today, what to you think? Well anyhoo it's ben nice being AFK with you, have a good time feing useless. Cheers '





Hehehe very nice


I'm somewhat like that, but most of the time I prefer telling them one thing, then doing another. 'Have fun black-barring me, I'm mowing the yard.'If they move off, I shoot them in the back of the head, if not, then I make my sandwich, go out and get a drink or watch a movie.





bahahahaha nice.


I usually tell them something like 'enjoy blackbarring me & degrading your weapons. I can meditate afterwards, can your DOT weapon?'







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[ X ] Master Smuggler profession
[ X ] Buy JTL so I can have a personal spaceship to Smuggle goods
[ ] Wait until Smuggler Revamp to be able to actually Smuggle well, ANYTHING.
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Vrond
Mon Sep 20, 2004 5:17 pm
#23






FlyinDuke wrote:





PhoenixOrion wrote:





FlyinDuke wrote:


A Bounty Hunter's main mission is to kill a smuggler and get money for it, we are supposed to be evasive, that is our nature.



Buzz. Wrong. A Bounty Hunter's Main Mission is to kill a MARK and get money for it. Not a smuggler. Not a Jedi. A Mark.


If they are going to make Smugglers part of bounties, they need to add in every other class in the game.


But before that, they need to work on fixing Jedi Bounties FIRST - b/c even those don't work - so non-Jedi bounties aren't going to work either.


I'm all for a BH after me as a Smuggler - as long as it works for the both of us, not just me.









So according to you, this doesn't work


Boba Fett = Bounty Hunter


Han Solo = Smuggler


Boba Fett Hunts Han Solo for money


im not talking about in game, in the Star Wars universe, Bounty hunters hunt whoever has money on their head, usually that class is smugglers.


No, you don't have to add every class into it, because we are the real illegal people, other people doing other illegal things would get on this system too (see the revamp idea)


They need to make this one big revamp



No Boba hunted Han because he was a smuggler how FAILED. he lost his cargo AND was not able to pay Jabba back not just because Han was a smuggler. If you want to hunt smugglers for smugglers you need a new profession called Cop and Corsec faction to hunt criminal faction










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kingfarooq218
Mon Sep 20, 2004 7:17 pm
#24

I think we should really avoid turning Bounty Hunters into SWG police men. Let's remember they are BOUNTY hunters. I think a feasable system would be one where we smugglers can take missions for a certain faction, say Jabba, and if we fail, well then we are open to a Bounty. Likewise any player involved in the GCW with a high enough rank for their faction should have a possibility of showing up on Bounty terminals. After all it would make sense that either side would want to eliminate certain higher ups on the other side. Throw in a loss of faction points to the one killed, and you have yourself a pretty cool system that incorporates an already accepted pvp arena.



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PhoenixOrion
Mon Sep 20, 2004 7:33 pm
#25




fishbrains wrote:





PhoenixOrion wrote:

I don't care for forced PVP, so if BH is after me, Feign Death time. I have an alt account. I'll just alt-tab to it and wait out the BH. Plain and simple as that. I'm a patient man. Look how long I've been waiting for Smuggler to work!






Funny sorty relating to something simmilar. Months ago I was PvPing alot and using FD a good deal. I got nasty tell after nasty tell so I changed my AFK message to this 'You are most likely sending me a /tell because you cannot kill me. Good job, I hope it makes you feel good. Just know that while you are standing over my body shooting me over and over that I'm in the kitchen making a sadwich. I'm thinking I'll go with ham today, what to you think? Well anyhoo it's ben nice being AFK with you, have a good time feing useless. Cheers '



Yup. Just like in THIS picture, I went AFK and watched a movie, played some XBOX. Let them sit there and waste their time. I was being constructive with mine.




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yimaz
Tue Sep 21, 2004 12:02 am
#26






FlyinDuke wrote:





PhoenixOrion wrote:





FlyinDuke wrote:


A Bounty Hunter's main mission is to kill a smuggler and get money for it, we are supposed to be evasive, that is our nature.



Buzz. Wrong. A Bounty Hunter's Main Mission is to kill a MARK and get money for it. Not a smuggler. Not a Jedi. A Mark.


If they are going to make Smugglers part of bounties, they need to add in every other class in the game.


But before that, they need to work on fixing Jedi Bounties FIRST - b/c even those don't work - so non-Jedi bounties aren't going to work either.


I'm all for a BH after me as a Smuggler - as long as it works for the both of us, not just me.









So according to you, this doesn't work


Boba Fett = Bounty Hunter


Han Solo = Smuggler


Boba Fett Hunts Han Solo for money - this is only one mark in a galaxy of 1000's of marks.


im not talking about in game, in the Star Wars universe, Bounty hunters hunt whoever has money on their head, usually that class is smugglers. -- i want Smuggler on the BH terms as bad as anyone but point of fact even in the SWG universe Bounty Hunters hunt anyone with a price on there head, not only Smugglers. Its not about profession its about money. Smuggler work for the underground so unless they screw up or steal from a crime lord they tend to not be hunted.


No, you don't have to add every class into it, because we are the real illegal people, other people doing other illegal things would get on this system too (see the revamp idea)


They need to make this one big revamp





Smuggler need a re-vamp and included in that re-vamp should be risk vs reward. If you steal your cargo, if you slice in bulk you go on the BH term, its that simple. Other professions dont need to be hunted.

Message Edited by yimaz on 09-20-2004 03:07 PM



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