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Thread: A Question for Tiggs or a Developer

Tango505
Thu Sep 01, 2005 10:24 am
#27






Tiggs wrote:






Makris wrote:
We have this information from SWG vault:


SWG Vault: Can you tell us when EXACTLY we will see the full Smuggler Revamp? And if you can't tell us, can you please tell us why?


Julio Torres: We are aware and sensitive to the fact that Smugglers need content to enjoy. We are currently working on this, and players should be able to enjoy the new content in November.


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Could someone please let us know what the quoted "content" entails specifically? Is this a few added missions for smugglers or does this mean new functionality added to the Smuggler profession? What is coming in November for Smugglers?






Sorry, I can't and won't give details until the changes are a week out of hitting Test Center. As for the interview it is correctly quoted.






I think everyone is jumping to a bad interpretation of Julio's comment and how Tiggs' statement relates to it. Julio spoke VERY carefully by saying that they are working on the new content for smugglers. He then very carefully and methodically (IMO) placed a comma and then stated, "...players (not smugglers)should be able to enjoy the new content in November."


Translation - We are working on the smuggler missions/content. Until we are finished with them, please enjoy the new content in the Trials of Obi-Wan expansion that will be released in November.


Tiggs' statement, "I can't and won't give details until the changes are a week out of hitting Test Center." further confirms that the smuggler content is NOT part of TOW and should not be expected. Plenty of information has been released and talked about in regards to TOW. Being that she cannot or will not comment on smuggler content in TOW is the proof. I understand her need to keep things close to the vest. This is not her fault - it is Julio's for making an ill formed statement that facilitated a misunderstanding.




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Ragnaat
Thu Sep 01, 2005 10:39 am
#28



Red-Dwarf wrote:

Tiggs wrote:
Sorry, I can't and won't give details until the changes are a week out of hitting Test Center.

Thanks Tiggs - now we understand where you are coming from - and it means when you do release info we can be fairly confident that it will happen. I'm afraid Julio has long since lost his credibility:

He announced earlier this year AFK play would be removed in May - it's still here.

He announced a little later 10 new songs would be added in July - no sign of them.

He announced now Smuggler content in Nov - any guesses?




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GanymedePharuu
Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:41 am
#29



Tango505 wrote:


Tiggs wrote:


Makris wrote:
We have this information from SWG vault:

SWG Vault: Can you tell us when EXACTLY we will see the full Smuggler Revamp? And if you can't tell us, can you please tell us why?

Julio Torres: We are aware and sensitive to the fact that Smugglers need content to enjoy. We are currently working on this, and players should be able to enjoy the new content in November.

Located here

Could someone please let us know what the quoted "content" entails specifically? Is this a few added missions for smugglers or does this mean new functionality added to the Smuggler profession? What is coming in November for Smugglers?




Sorry, I can't and won't give details until the changes are a week out of hitting Test Center. As for the interview it is correctly quoted.



I think everyone is jumping to a bad interpretation of Julio's comment and how Tiggs' statement relates to it. Julio spoke VERY carefully by saying that they are working on the new content for smugglers. He then very carefully and methodically (IMO) placed a comma and then stated, "...players (not smugglers)should be able to enjoy the new content in November."

Translation - We are working on the smuggler missions/content. Until we are finished with them, please enjoy the new content in the Trials of Obi-Wan expansion that will be released in November.

Tiggs' statement, "I can't and won't give details until the changes are a week out of hitting Test Center." further confirms that the smuggler content is NOT part of TOW and should not be expected. Plenty of information has been released and talked about in regards to TOW. Being that she cannot or will not comment on smuggler content in TOW is the proof. I understand her need to keep things close to the vest. This is not her fault - it is Julio's for making an ill formed statement that facilitated a misunderstanding.






"working on" Smuggler missions/content can mean a whole bunch of things.
for instance, right now i'm working on getting back into shape. i'm also working on writing a story.
am i doing the work involved in achieving those goals at this very moment? nope.

but i still say i'm working on them, because i plan on achieving them sometime.

believe me when i say this, they are not "working on" Smuggling missions in the way they should be.



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WesBelden
Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:02 pm
#30

I think it's the case that the answer in the interview is saying that we'll see Smuggler missions in November, while Tiggs is saying she doesn't dispute it, but won't confirm it because as always, things can change.

i.e. I don't think we have to worry about semantics, but rather about development staying on track and on time (neither of which are ever 100%).

By the way, the answer I mentioned in the corre forum was that Tiggs would look into whether the interview was correctly quoted, so thanks for getting back to us on that Tiggs .



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WillburWright
Thu Sep 01, 2005 3:12 pm
#31

sirshaggs
Thu Sep 01, 2005 3:35 pm
#32

Some of you need to stop whining and just wait. Take in the information for what it is. We know SOMETHING will be new to smugglers soon. What it is who knows, and who cares? When we find out treat it like a gift and be greatfull that SOE even remembered us. I like smuggler for the community and some of the skills we have can be fairly fun. Sit back relax....they got till the end of november to show us something.



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Ternque01
Thu Sep 01, 2005 3:40 pm
#33






sirshaggs wrote:
Some of you need to stop whining and just wait. Take in the information for what it is. We know SOMETHING will be new to smugglers soon. What it is who knows, and who cares? When we find out treat it like a gift and be greatfull that SOE even remembered us. I like smuggler for the community and some of the skills we have can be fairly fun. Sit back relax....they got till the end of november to show us something.





Who the hell are you?


Who are you to come into our forum and tell us to shut up?


We've waited two years, and we have the right to raise hell.





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V1G0
Thu Sep 01, 2005 4:38 pm
#34






Tiggs wrote:





Makris wrote:
We have this information from SWG vault:


SWG Vault: Can you tell us when EXACTLY we will see the full Smuggler Revamp? And if you can't tell us, can you please tell us why?


Julio Torres: We are aware and sensitive to the fact that Smugglers need content to enjoy. We are currently working on this, and players should be able to enjoy the new content in November.


Located here


Could someone please let us know what the quoted "content" entails specifically? Is this a few added missions for smugglers or does this mean new functionality added to the Smuggler profession? What is coming in November for Smugglers?






Sorry, I can't and won't give details until the changes are a week out of hitting Test Center. As for the interview it is correctly quoted.




Then you might as well get rid of the "In Concept" and "In Development" forums because that's exactly what they are for, discussing game changes that are more than a week away from test center.




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GanymedePharuu
Thu Sep 01, 2005 4:49 pm
#35






V1G0 wrote:





Tiggs wrote:





Makris wrote:
We have this information from SWG vault:


SWG Vault: Can you tell us when EXACTLY we will see the full Smuggler Revamp? And if you can't tell us, can you please tell us why?


Julio Torres: We are aware and sensitive to the fact that Smugglers need content to enjoy. We are currently working on this, and players should be able to enjoy the new content in November.


Located here


Could someone please let us know what the quoted "content" entails specifically? Is this a few added missions for smugglers or does this mean new functionality added to the Smuggler profession? What is coming in November for Smugglers?






Sorry, I can't and won't give details until the changes are a week out of hitting Test Center. As for the interview it is correctly quoted.




Then you might as well get rid of the "In Concept" and "In Development" forums because that's exactly what they are for, discussing game changes that are more than a week away from test center.





QFE!




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I wanted Smuggling for Christmas
but all i got was
<--- this stupid hat.

I am Jack's ignored profession.
Luke Skywalker is DEAD!
GanymedePharuu
Thu Sep 01, 2005 4:50 pm
#36






sirshaggs wrote:
Some of you need to stop whining and just wait. Take in the information for what it is. We know SOMETHING will be new to smugglers soon. What it is who knows, and who cares? When we find out treat it like a gift and be greatfull that SOE even remembered us. I like smuggler for the community and some of the skills we have can be fairly fun. Sit back relax....they got till the end of november to show us something.




"chut up"



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Kohs V'sto
I wanted Smuggling for Christmas
but all i got was
<--- this stupid hat.

I am Jack's ignored profession.
Luke Skywalker is DEAD!
BailorJayssek
Thu Sep 01, 2005 5:42 pm
#37

Personally, I think the fact that TWO people involved in development have even SPOKEN to us in regard to Smuggler content is a FANTASMIC OMEN for the rise of SOME kind of Smuggler content.


How long has our forum been without red names? How long has the silence been? And now TWO "high-ups" have spoken on content. Let's not look a gift horse in the mouth (until it starts barfing up something icky).
Fernas
Thu Sep 01, 2005 7:14 pm
#38


V1G0


Sorry, I can't and won't give details until the changes are a week out of hitting Test Center. As for the interview it is correctly quoted.




Then you might as well get rid of the "In Concept" and "In Development" forums because that's exactly what they are for, discussing game changes that are more than a week away from test center.

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HOTDOG
Thu Sep 01, 2005 10:05 pm
#39






BailorJayssek wrote:

Personally, I think the fact that TWO people involved in development have even SPOKEN to us in regard to Smuggler content is a FANTASMIC OMEN for the rise of SOME kind of Smuggler content.


How long has our forum been without red names? How long has the silence been? And now TWO "high-ups" have spoken on content. Let's not look a gift horse in the mouth (until it starts barfing up something icky).





I seen a lot of things in these forums. But I ain't seen nothing, to make me believesomething a Dev says about us getting ANYTHING.





sirshaggs wrote:
Some of you need to stop whining and just wait. Take in the information for what it is. We know SOMETHING will be new to smugglers soon. What it is who knows, and who cares? When we find out treat it like a gift and be greatfull that SOE even remembered us. I like smuggler for the community and some of the skills we have can be fairly fun. Sit back relax....they got till the end of november to show us something.





No. We don't. I think that was Tigg's whole point.








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