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Thread: Wow, many more ships for ROTW
DRWolfe wrote:
NickHeel wrote:
Can someone tell me why we're adding craft...outdated by 20-30 friggin' years to the game that is on par with equipment not even invented yet!?
'Cause someone wanted stuff added to the game that coincides with Ep3, completely as a major marketing tool.
yimaz wrote:
DRWolfe wrote:
NickHeel wrote:
Can someone tell me why we're adding craft...outdated by 20-30 friggin' years to the game that is on par with equipment not even invented yet!?
'Cause someone wanted stuff added to the game that coincides with Ep3, completely as a major marketing tool.
that's exactly why.
Orcajum wrote:
NickHeel wrote:
Zeon_Zaku wrote:
Where did you see the information on the V-Wing? I don't see it anywhere on the Gamespot page...
The information for the V-Wing came from a Star Wars starship information site. It really does exist in a top secret form late in RotJ and after that I think. I could be wrong since the only time I've seen it is in the Rogue Squadron video game. But I believe it came during/after RotJ while fighting the Imperial remnant or something. Dreven would know.
And I didn't typo the B into a V. That's how it is on the site, as a V-Wing.
If i remember correctly, the V-wing didn't come into Aliance service until shortly after Thrawn, during that whole reborn-Emperor story. But it's not really a spacecraft. It's an atmospheric attack craft similar to the Snowspeeders though not specialized for cold environments. X-Wings, Y-Wings, etc, are designed to space battles, not for atmospheric flight, so they suffer aerodynamically. The V-Wing, supposidly, doesn't suffer the same air resistence and gravity effects the space-based fighters do, and is thus more maneuverable in atmosphere.
NickHeel wrote:Can someone tell me why we're adding craft...outdated by 20-30 friggin' years to the game that is on par with equipment not even invented yet!?
I swear, those RotS ships better be high end quest rewards from NPCs. Not the schematics like the Firespray, but someone more along the lines of the Cries of Alderaan. Only more random for each person and difficult.
This is getting ridiculous.
Actually, I believe that LFL has V-Wings in EpIII - Not taking into account the V-Wing Airspeeder... The V-Wing mentioned is a starfighter.
JediArashi wrote:
Orcajum wrote:
NickHeel wrote:
Zeon_Zaku wrote:
Where did you see the information on the V-Wing? I don't see it anywhere on the Gamespot page...
The information for the V-Wing came from a Star Wars starship information site. It really does exist in a top secret form late in RotJ and after that I think. I could be wrong since the only time I've seen it is in the Rogue Squadron video game. But I believe it came during/after RotJ while fighting the Imperial remnant or something. Dreven would know.
And I didn't typo the B into a V. That's how it is on the site, as a V-Wing.
If i remember correctly, the V-wing didn't come into Aliance service until shortly after Thrawn, during that whole reborn-Emperor story. But it's not really a spacecraft. It's an atmospheric attack craft similar to the Snowspeeders though not specialized for cold environments. X-Wings, Y-Wings, etc, are designed to space battles, not for atmospheric flight, so they suffer aerodynamically. The V-Wing, supposidly, doesn't suffer the same air resistence and gravity effects the space-based fighters do, and is thus more maneuverable in atmosphere.
That's true, but it is also space worthy with hyperdrive and all. It's merely for descriptive purposes anyway...I doubt they will actually add the ship in.
Although 20-30 years isn't much in terms of thousands of years ofspace travel, remember that ships that old are considered "hunks of junk" (yt-1300) and newer ships are always performing better then their older ancestors. In nearly every EU book that talks about "relics" from the clone wars the ships and tech from that timeframe is considered ancient and ineffective. From guns to ships, anytime they say it is clone wars era they mean it is next to useless. It would be like being in Iraq and finding a stockpile of blunderbusses...not exactly going to help you win a gunfight.
So in terms of Star Wars EU...all of these ships would be next to useless in comparison to the new tech we already have.
However, we're still flying the Z-95 Headhunter around, and the Z-95 was in production before Episode I! (Read the Ep 1 novelization!) The ARC-170, Grevious fighter, and Jedi Starfighter II are much newer than one of the craft we're already flying.
On a side note, I'd rather they used the AotC Jedi Starfighter...that was much more aesthetically pleasing.
JediArashi wrote:
Orcajum wrote:
NickHeel wrote:
Zeon_Zaku wrote:
Where did you see the information on the V-Wing? I don't see it anywhere on the Gamespot page...
The information for the V-Wing came from a Star Wars starship information site. It really does exist in a top secret form late in RotJ and after that I think. I could be wrong since the only time I've seen it is in the Rogue Squadron video game. But I believe it came during/after RotJ while fighting the Imperial remnant or something. Dreven would know.
And I didn't typo the B into a V. That's how it is on the site, as a V-Wing.
If i remember correctly, the V-wing didn't come into Aliance service until shortly after Thrawn, during that whole reborn-Emperor story. But it's not really a spacecraft. It's an atmospheric attack craft similar to the Snowspeeders though not specialized for cold environments. X-Wings, Y-Wings, etc, are designed to space battles, not for atmospheric flight, so they suffer aerodynamically. The V-Wing, supposidly, doesn't suffer the same air resistence and gravity effects the space-based fighters do, and is thus more maneuverable in atmosphere.
That's true, but it is also space worthy with hyperdrive and all. It's merely for descriptive purposes anyway...I doubt they will actually add the ship in.
Although 20-30 years isn't much in terms of thousands of years ofspace travel, remember that ships that old are considered "hunks of junk" (yt-1300) and newer ships are always performing better then their older ancestors. In nearly every EU book that talks about "relics" from the clone wars the ships and tech from that timeframe is considered ancient and ineffective. From guns to ships, anytime they say it is clone wars era they mean it is next to useless. It would be like being in Iraq and finding a stockpile of blunderbusses...not exactly going to help you win a gunfight.
So in terms of Star Wars EU...all of these ships would be next to useless in comparison to the new tech we already have.
The Z-95 comment was a good point, but to address the "hunk of junk" comment, it was directed at the falcon, not at the ship in general. YT transports are well liked for their durability and the ease at which they can be modified. The falcon had been around for awhile, and not just flying legal cargo around. Not only had Han been shot at quite a few times in it, but at the very least he had also flown it insanely close to one too many black holes. Flying through radiation and accreation (spelling?) diskscan't be too good for a ship's appearence. Add to that at least one planetary assault he took her on through a very disruptive atmosphere. Let's see how well you look after all that.
Point is, not only was the falcon still viable, but Han often preferred it to other vessels. When Chewie took Leia to Kashykk to hide, Han made them take the Falcon. By all rights, there should have been some better shielded, more manuverable courier ship they could have taken, and they definitely could have found something less conspicuous.
You might counter by mentioning the upgrades Han put in. Well the hyperdrive upgrade was in there when he got it, so that should be fairly outdated by your logic as well. As for the rest, most of the upgrades were second hand salvage.
I'm also EXTREMELY wary of it, I don't like the idea of anyone getting anything designed for something you can't EVER be. Unless, as I mentioned in an Expansion forums thread, They plan to start handing out modified Red Mando armor, a robe and a force pike, to the pilots. In which case I'm going to the Dev who thought that up's house, and bludgeoning him with his own cybernetic arm.